2019 Heat Offseason thread 4.0- Yimmy and the Kids!

[fishfuego.]

Paul, Butler, Winslow and Olynyk can shoot. Defenders have to stay on them at the 3 point line so the spacing is fine.

So now Winslow can shoot lol
Sorry twix but Winslow is a prayer as of today when shooting although his dribble penetration has gotten really good recently, and that to me cancels WB when considering age and contract.

Now if we are looking at a shooter/finisher off the dribble Dragic is better suited.

I don’t care for CP3 due to his contract and age. Dragic has only one more year left. That is an asset.

Don't know what Justise Winslow you were watching last season.

An improved slasher for sure who found his game for uncontested open 3s. Nothing to write historical songs about. Any quality NBA player should do this. Amazing defender with great handles above league average. This is where his value rises. Of course, if he can improve his off dribble contested or uncontested shots( any shots lol) then he will be all star caliber IMO, but he is not there. I hope to god he makes that leap.

[JLop]

Report: Miami Heat Showing Interest in Power Forward Kevin Love



The Miami Heat’s huge offseason shows no signs of slowing down, with one new report indicating that the Heat are looking at a potential acquisition of Cleveland Cavaliers power forward Kevin Love.

Love, who turns 31 in September, is set to begin the first season of a four-year contract extension that will pay him $120 million over that time period. He signed the deal last year, but then was limited to just 22 games this past season due to injury.

While rumors of Love possibly being traded have been commonplace since he joined the Cavaliers in 2014, his new contract was expected to tamper down such speculation. However, with the Cavs currently in rebuilding mode, they might have some interest in dealing the veteran away if they’re able to acquire some young talent or future draft picks in exchange.

Dealing for Love could potentially allow the Heat to also get rid of some of their remaining burdensome contracts. Matching Love’s salary by sending away players such as James Johnson and Dion Waiters, who began his career with the Cavs, could be a consideration.

The Heat already have Jimmy Butler, with the potential addition of Love giving them an experienced veteran who can deliver a double-double in every game. One drawback with Love is his lengthy injury history, though the Heat apparently aren’t deterred by that issue.

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[somerandomdude]

I had higher hopes for next season until I read that the Heat don't like Winslow at PG, despite all the evidence that shows we're better off with him there.

To me, this is probably the most devastating part of not getting Westbrook because we would've likely included Winslow, which means trading away a player we don't properly utilize and getting something of great value in return.

I still think Bam has potential for a breakout season or at least continuing to improve. He'll be worth watching.

But I'm not getting my hopes up on Winslow having similar success or even Herro getting a lot of mpg.

[fishfuego.]

Report: Miami Heat Showing Interest in Power Forward Kevin Love



The Miami Heat’s huge offseason shows no signs of slowing down, with one new report indicating that the Heat are looking at a potential acquisition of Cleveland Cavaliers power forward Kevin Love.

Love, who turns 31 in September, is set to begin the first season of a four-year contract extension that will pay him $120 million over that time period. He signed the deal last year, but then was limited to just 22 games this past season due to injury.

While rumors of Love possibly being traded have been commonplace since he joined the Cavaliers in 2014, his new contract was expected to tamper down such speculation. However, with the Cavs currently in rebuilding mode, they might have some interest in dealing the veteran away if they’re able to acquire some young talent or future draft picks in exchange.

Dealing for Love could potentially allow the Heat to also get rid of some of their remaining burdensome contracts. Matching Love’s salary by sending away players such as James Johnson and Dion Waiters, who began his career with the Cavs, could be a consideration.

The Heat already have Jimmy Butler, with the potential addition of Love giving them an experienced veteran who can deliver a double-double in every game. One drawback with Love is his lengthy injury history, though the Heat apparently aren’t deterred by that issue.

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Dion, JJ, Olynyk, Dragic, Jones Jr maybe or not lol. That is it for me. Any of those player if it matches salary wise.

[HEATVols865]

Have Wade tell Paul: remove your player option and Miami will trade for you. Don’t do it and you’re screwed bro.

In what universe is keeping 44+ Million = you're screwed bro?

If he wants to have a happy ending to his career, after all the millions he’s made, he can come to Miami or he can rot in Oklahoma avoiding tornados.

[dean456]

Meanwhile, even though the Heat has displayed strong interest in trading for Washington guard Bradley Beal, Wizards vice president/basketball operations Tommy Sheppard told The Athletic that Washington has given no thought to trading Beal.


“Not at all,” Sheppard said. “It’s never crossed our mind. Bradley is somebody we’re building around. He’s been involved with everything we’re doing in the draft, free agency. We need his opinion. We want this team to be a reflection of what he is all about.”


According to sources, there is sentiment inside the the Heat to take the final four years and $171 million of injured point guard John Wall’s contract if it would allow Miami to land Beal, who is eligible for free agency in the summer of 2021. But Washington appears unwilling to do that at this time.


“When John was healthy, he was one of the top players in the NBA hands down,” Sheppard said. “He’ll be healthy again.”



all hype all meat beat hype

Been telling you guys since day one dreaming about Beal that Wiz never gave a smidge of indication they were going to deal him. It was all fabricated by twitter talking heads. Wiz about to make Beal a very rich man when they are allowed to extend him at the end of the month. 3 year 127 I think to be exact.

It's too early, he has 2 years left. Beal even if he wanted out has no leverage to force his way. I think if he doesn't make all-nba to be eligible for the supermax extension, he might be available in the summer

Tell that to Paul George.

[fishfuego.]

I had higher hopes for next season until I read that the Heat don't like Winslow at PG, despite all the evidence that shows we're better off with him there.

To me, this is probably the most devastating part of not getting Westbrook because we would've likely included Winslow, which means trading away a player we don't properly utilize and getting something of great value in return.

I still think Bam has potential for a breakout season or at least continuing to improve. He'll be worth watching.

But I'm not getting my hopes up on Winslow having similar success or even Herro getting a lot of mpg.

Do you have any hopes for next season considering we got Butler?

[DayofMourning]

Kevin Love does not move the dial for me. Cp was more interesting.

[dean456]

When the owner signed on to the Paul deal they knew full well they were going to end up keeping Paul. They got two first round picks for there troubles and are about to get under the tax line. They will surround that contract with a bunch of cheap talented labor in the near future.

yeah I don't see us giving up 2 first round picks for a player we don't owe anything. I guess we will wait until we find something (or not) or move him for a slightly negative deal but no way Presti is going to give up 2 first round picks for Chris ******* Paul

You do owe him something... 3 years and about 120 mil. That’s now your contract to worry about. You either ride it out or get rid of him.

For us, we definitely don’t owe him anything, nor do we have the dire need to get him. Would we consider it? Yeah sure, but it’s gonna cost you for us to liberate you from what you owe him. Otherwise, carry that heavy contract through your first few years of a rebuild and hope that he doesn’t get injured or look much worse, cause the longer you wait, the worse that contract is going to get. We know that, thus why their is a steep price to pay for him.

The truth is that Westbrook’s value was so low it literally netted them a worse asset and a few picks to swallow that worse asset. Guess what... you either swallow that asset or keep those sweeteners flowing on to the next team willing to swallow that contract.

Adding to that Chris Paul is still going to win you some games which could be the difference in getting the 1st pick to the 6th-8th picks in the draft.

[somerandomdude]

I had higher hopes for next season until I read that the Heat don't like Winslow at PG, despite all the evidence that shows we're better off with him there.

To me, this is probably the most devastating part of not getting Westbrook because we would've likely included Winslow, which means trading away a player we don't properly utilize and getting something of great value in return.

I still think Bam has potential for a breakout season or at least continuing to improve. He'll be worth watching.

But I'm not getting my hopes up on Winslow having similar success or even Herro getting a lot of mpg.

Do you still have any hopes for next season considering we got Butler?

Well, I'm mainly referring to the development of our younger guys.

Butler's a nice piece of the puzzle to have, but we already know what he's going to give us and we're not going anywhere unless our young guys break out into all-stars.

Since we're not contenders, I was looking forward to the development of our guys, and my fear is that it'll be a wasted season if we take the same approach we did last season (play it safe rather than accept the reality that we're not a good team).

[miamiballer]

How good would we be if we got both love and Chris paul and sent out unwanted contracts and Winslow

Ex winslow, jj to cle for love

Dragic, waiters, Olynyk for Paul and 1st rd pick

Bam
Love
Djj
Butler
Paul

Obv we’d be capped out til the next four years

[HeatingUp3]

Omg. CP and Kevin Love? Whats the deal with us interesting in those old big contract dudes??? Just wait! Every deadline a star player wants out or something. Look PP and Russ traded within a week. Just wait. The right deal will pop

[Rafly]

Watch on YouTube

Got heat fans perfect rn. Lol

[Rapaz]

The Love article is based entirely on a tweet by some dope named “Mr. Clutch.”

[somerandomdude]

Read on Twitter

A league source told the Miami Herald that the Heat will listen and do due diligence on the matter, but that the Heat does not have strong interest and is not aggressively pursuing a trade for Paul at this time.

Miami would need to be absolutely overwhelmed to consider taking on the final three years and $124 million of Paul’s contract, considering the veteran point guard’s age (34) and lack of durability.

According to sources, there is sentiment inside the the Heat to take the final four years and $171 million of injured point guard John Wall’s contract if it would allow Miami to land Beal, who is eligible for free agency in the summer of 2021. But Washington appears unwilling to do that at this time.

[Flash4thewin]

I had higher hopes for next season until I read that the Heat don't like Winslow at PG, despite all the evidence that shows we're better off with him there.

To me, this is probably the most devastating part of not getting Westbrook because we would've likely included Winslow, which means trading away a player we don't properly utilize and getting something of great value in return.

I still think Bam has potential for a breakout season or at least continuing to improve. He'll be worth watching.

But I'm not getting my hopes up on Winslow having similar success or even Herro getting a lot of mpg.

Best case sounds like Winslow off the bench as our backup PG and playing with Herro at the backup SG position. Or Spo might start him at PF. If this is the plan and it sound like it, trading Winslow, Dragic and Herro for Westbrook might have made more sense.

[dean456]

Have Wade tell Paul: remove your player option and Miami will trade for you. Don’t do it and you’re screwed bro.

In what universe is keeping 44+ Million = you're screwed bro?

CP3 isn't going to let himself stay in OKC the last years he has left in the league, if that final year is whats keeping him from moving somewhere he wants to be then he will waive that money.

[Daffy]

It's easy for everyone to say he will waive $40 because they aren't in the actual position.

[Daffy]

Y'all really need to sit and think of how much money is 40 mill. Would y'all turn down yearly salary for 1 year knowing the next job is gonna pay less after that year? I know we want to see our team do good but be realistic guys. It's highly unlikely to happen

[BFRESH44]

Chris Paul is definitely going to have to make a choice, or he is indeed going to be stuck. Going to be interesting to see how that plays out. 44 MM is major.

But after a conversation with Heat Brand Ambassador Dwyane Wade, you never know what can happen.