Chuma Okeke drafted #16 by the Orlando Magic

basketballRob · Post #641 » by **basketballRob** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:09 pm

To me Okeke looks like almost exclusively a three. Someone said he moves like Klay Thompson and I can see that comparison. Does anyone see that? He has that same kind of shooting stroke and very efficient movements.

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Nyce_1 · Post #642 » by **Nyce_1** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:14 pm

tiderulz wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
Blue_and_Whte wrote:Thanks for doing the leg work on this.
Yes thank you. Looking at that last link it said he'd be a mid first round pick if he didn't suffer that injury. I still haven't seen an archive of a mock draft that showed him as a lottery pick. I think he was projected where we drafted him prior to the injury

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which is on the edge of lottery and a fair statement. Who knows if he hadnt gotten hurt. 1 or 2 more games might have pushed him up more. there were quite a few people projected as lottery that dropped hard too, so a no-injury Okeke very well might have been a lottery pick. Not a top-10, but lottery pick

Not only the 1-2 games but the workouts. He could've easily killed it during pre-draft and propelled himself into the lottery.

Skin · Post #643 » by **Skin** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:21 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
Skin wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
When did Okeke play SF ? Highschool? What makes you belive he can play SF in nba?
Also as soon as he comes back is in October of 2020
As long as Magic keep Aminu, Isaac and Gordon, Okeke won't recive more than 10-14 mpg

What does that have to do with anything? College position doesn't dictate NBA position. Have you not heard our FO & Clifford talk about how much they love his versatility? But yeah, 10-14 mpg sounds about right for a rookie second string player.

PG Augustin / MCW
SG Fournier / Ross
SF Gordon / Okeke
PF Isaac / Aminu
C Vucevic / Bamba

So Aminu at 29 will be playing 16 mpg ?
Guy is career starter on 27 mpg, he didn't come to Orlando to be cheerleader

He may get more minutes while Okeke is out.

But he's a team guy. Weltman enforced that over and over. Glue guy. No other team gives him that contract. How do you get a vet to accept coming off the bench? You overpay him and that's what we did. He'll do what Clifford tells him to do and I guaran-damn-tee you that he's not getting starter minutes once Okeke breaks the rotation.

Skin · Post #644 » by **Skin** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:28 pm

basketballRob wrote:To me Okeke looks like almost exclusively a three. Someone said he moves like Klay Thompson and I can see that comparison. Does anyone see that? He has that same kind of shooting stroke and very efficient movements.

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Yup and Klay played the 2 in between Curry and KD. I hope the Magic tones Okeke up so he can play at a lighter more athletic and versatile weight.

tiderulz · Post #645 » by **tiderulz** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:34 am

Skin wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
Skin wrote:What does that have to do with anything? College position doesn't dictate NBA position. Have you not heard our FO & Clifford talk about how much they love his versatility? But yeah, 10-14 mpg sounds about right for a rookie second string player.

PG Augustin / MCW
SG Fournier / Ross
SF Gordon / Okeke
PF Isaac / Aminu
C Vucevic / Bamba

So Aminu at 29 will be playing 16 mpg ?
Guy is career starter on 27 mpg, he didn't come to Orlando to be cheerleader

He may get more minutes while Okeke is out.

But he's a team guy. Weltman enforced that over and over. Glue guy. No other team gives him that contract. How do you get a vet to accept coming off the bench? You overpay him and that's what we did. He'll do what Clifford tells him to do and I guaran-damn-tee you that he's not getting starter minutes once Okeke breaks the rotation.

it will all depend if Okeke can outplay Aminu

cedric76 · Post #646 » by **cedric76** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:34 am

Skin wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
Skin wrote:What does that have to do with anything? College position doesn't dictate NBA position. Have you not heard our FO & Clifford talk about how much they love his versatility? But yeah, 10-14 mpg sounds about right for a rookie second string player.

PG Augustin / MCW
SG Fournier / Ross
SF Gordon / Okeke
PF Isaac / Aminu
C Vucevic / Bamba

So Aminu at 29 will be playing 16 mpg ?
Guy is career starter on 27 mpg, he didn't come to Orlando to be cheerleader

He may get more minutes while Okeke is out.

But he's a team guy. Weltman enforced that over and over. Glue guy. No other team gives him that contract. How do you get a vet to accept coming off the bench? You overpay him and that's what we did. He'll do what Clifford tells him to do and I guaran-damn-tee you that he's not getting starter minutes once Okeke breaks the rotation.

He doesn't understand how minute distribution works
Players don't all play 82 games

PrimeThyme · Post #647 » by **PrimeThyme** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:01 am

Chuma didn’t even really look like a 3 in college and now at the next level he’s suddenly going to play SG and is also fresh off of an ACL tear going to beat out Aminu for minutes? If you say so... I think a lot of people here are going to be disappointed when he struggles to crack the rotation for more then 10-15 minutes per game this year.

Post #648 » by **SOUL** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:13 am

PrimeThyme wrote:Chuma didn’t even really look like a 3 in college and now at the next level he’s suddenly going to play SG and is also fresh off of an ACL tear going to beat out Aminu for minutes? If you say so... I think a lot of people here are going to be disappointed when he struggles to crack the rotation for more then 10-15 minutes per game this year.

You're right about the SG part, but I don't think many people are even expecting him to play much or at all this year. 15 minutes would be perfect especially with a frontcourt like we have currently.

drsd · Post #649 » by **drsd** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:23 am

tiderulz wrote:a Bruce Bowen type role is easily attainable by Okeke. i wouldnt want him to be a major ball handler right now, but playing hard defense, shooting the 3, being active on defense, that is easily within his skill set.

Bowen is a player who realized to make it in the NBA, he needed to be the guy doing the dirt work. His defense was almost cheap and disrespectful, but gosh darnit, it worked. And he "got paid" doing it *.

Orlando could profit from an enforcer. If Okeke is the guy here, great!

* = Bowen got 30M for being a thug. Power to him!

..

pepe1991 · Post #650 » by **pepe1991** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:29 am

Skin wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
Skin wrote:What does that have to do with anything? College position doesn't dictate NBA position. Have you not heard our FO & Clifford talk about how much they love his versatility? But yeah, 10-14 mpg sounds about right for a rookie second string player.

PG Augustin / MCW
SG Fournier / Ross
SF Gordon / Okeke
PF Isaac / Aminu
C Vucevic / Bamba

So Aminu at 29 will be playing 16 mpg ?
Guy is career starter on 27 mpg, he didn't come to Orlando to be cheerleader

He may get more minutes while Okeke is out.

But he's a team guy. Weltman enforced that over and over. Glue guy. No other team gives him that contract. How do you get a vet to accept coming off the bench? You overpay him and that's what we did. He'll do what Clifford tells him to do and I guaran-damn-tee you that he's not getting starter minutes once Okeke breaks the rotation.

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He had other suitors ,he picked Orlando probably because he knows it's best place to get PT and where he will be able to get another contract after 3 years.
By the time Okeke is healthy, one of Isaac, Aminu or Gordon will be traded anyway.

drsd · Post #651 » by **drsd** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:11 am

basketballRob wrote:To me Okeke looks like almost exclusively a three.

On defense, he will guard the 2-4 slots. On offense, he will set screens and look to the offensive board, and hit an odd-3-ball now and again. Whether that's a SF.

basketballRob · Post #652 » by **basketballRob** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:22 am

PrimeThyme wrote:Chuma didn’t even really look like a 3 in college and now at the next level he’s suddenly going to play SG and is also fresh off of an ACL tear going to beat out Aminu for minutes? If you say so... I think a lot of people here are going to be disappointed when he struggles to crack the rotation for more then 10-15 minutes per game this year.

He looked like a 3 to me. I'll actually be surprised if he plays much power forward in the NBA.

He resembles Klay a lot on the offensive end, whether he can guard the two or not I don't know. If you watch Klay and Chuma's offensive highlights they have the same movements and near exact shooting stroke.

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zaymon · Post #653 » by **zaymon** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:53 am

basketballRob wrote:
PrimeThyme wrote:Chuma didn’t even really look like a 3 in college and now at the next level he’s suddenly going to play SG and is also fresh off of an ACL tear going to beat out Aminu for minutes? If you say so... I think a lot of people here are going to be disappointed when he struggles to crack the rotation for more then 10-15 minutes per game this year.
He looked like a 3 to me. I'll actually be surprised if he plays much power forward in the NBA.

He resembles Klay a lot on the offensive end, whether he can guard the two or not I don't know. If you watch Klay and Chuma's offensive highlights they have the same movements and near exact shooting stroke.

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Coming out of college Thompson wasnt known for his athletecism or foot speed and somehow he is one of the better team defenders. I think Chuma has similar defensive versatility and instincts. Why he cant guard bigger guards especially with Isaac behind him ?

drsd · Post #654 » by **drsd** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:48 pm

Just rewatched the Okeke intro video. It is very, very clear the Magic brass has enthusiasm. We will see.

Watch on YouTube

j-ragg · Post #655 » by **j-ragg** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 1:41 pm

He's kinda like Klay and Kawhi mixed together, small hint of LBJ.

basketballRob · Post #656 » by **basketballRob** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:01 pm

j-ragg wrote:He's kinda like Klay and Kawhi mixed together, small hint of LBJ.

You're exaggerating. Probably no way he ends up one of the greatest shooters like Klay, but he has the same mechanics.

I was watching the highlights of him scoring 32 of his teams 50 points in high school and I bet in his mind, he's a scorer waiting on someone to give him the green light.

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VFX · Post #657 » by **VFX** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:44 pm

PrimeThyme wrote:Chuma didn’t even really look like a 3 in college and now at the next level he’s suddenly going to play SG and is also fresh off of an ACL tear going to beat out Aminu for minutes? If you say so... I think a lot of people here are going to be disappointed when he struggles to crack the rotation for more then 10-15 minutes per game this year.

and next year...

This guy is a F based on matchup, just like AG and JI. He’ll likely be a small ball 4 that struggles to create his own shot. That’s my biggest knock on this pick. For a team that severely lacks playmaking, the FO sure didn’t care to address that glaring weakness at all this offseason. Not only that, but unless moves are made I also have a hard time seeing this guy crack a healthy lineup of JI, Ross, AG,and Aminu. That’s not a slight to Okeke, that’s just simple math compared to players that already have defined integral roles on the team.

pepe1991 · Post #658 » by **pepe1991** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:57 pm

j-ragg wrote:He's kinda like Klay and Kawhi mixed together, small hint of LBJ.

Little bit a MJ, don't forget him :lol:

Mc-o · Post #659 » by **Mc-o** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:18 pm

I’m dying laughing at people comparing okeke to hall of famers , how about we see if this guy can even crack the rotation before setting these high expectations . Lol

PrimeThyme · Post #660 » by **PrimeThyme** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:37 pm

The last thing I saw when I watched Okeke this year is Klay Thompson..if that’s what people are expecting his play style to be offensively I think they will be in for a huge disappointment.