2019 Utah Jazz Off Season Thread

LewisnotMiller · Post #561 » by **LewisnotMiller** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:50 am

ForeverRDjazz wrote:
LewisnotMiller wrote:Celts fan here, but love Joe Ingles, so wishing you the best...at least in most games.
Anyone able to summarise what space/exceptions you guys have left?
Great offseason, you just need a decent stopgap 4 to round things out, it seems.

Sorry Hayward killed your team chemistry. He's always been about himself. I'm just glad Jazz didn't get stuck with max deal he's not worth. You guys still have some really great young talent and hope Hayward doesn't wreak them and run em off.

Weirdly, killing our team chemistry seemed to be a team effort. Not just GH.

ForeverRDjazz · Post #562 » by **ForeverRDjazz** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:22 am

LewisnotMiller wrote:
ForeverRDjazz wrote:
LewisnotMiller wrote:Celts fan here, but love Joe Ingles, so wishing you the best...at least in most games.
Anyone able to summarise what space/exceptions you guys have left?
Great offseason, you just need a decent stopgap 4 to round things out, it seems.

Sorry Hayward killed your team chemistry. He's always been about himself. I'm just glad Jazz didn't get stuck with max deal he's not worth. You guys still have some really great young talent and hope Hayward doesn't wreak them and run em off.

Weirdly, killing our team chemistry seemed to be a team effort. Not just GH.

When coach starts force feeding one player and the rest are mad about it? Killing the team for him to grow into the star they thought they were signing? KI didn't help matter much. I do like Kemba more than KI for your PG this year. Loosing Al isn't gonna help and only make 76s that much harder to get by. Good luck next year.

CAE15 · Post #563 » by **CAE15** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:08 am

babyjax13 wrote:An OKC fan and I talked about it and I think it could make some sense:

Dante
Bradley
2020 2nd
for
Roberson
PPat

We get an elite perimeter defender (if he is healthy) or just drop Dante's salary next year + a bigger power forward that still hits the three, even if he isn't as good anymore.

I love Roberson but even at his elite skill of defending, Dante is a comparable defender and has the potential to be even better. Not to mention Dante helps break the paint, which is huge for our offense. And Roberson has missed essentially the last 2 years. I'm not dumping an elite defender in Exum for a one time elite defender who doesn't do anything else. Go look at his FT%. I used to be in on Patrick Patterson but Niang can do thing Pat would provide, so no reason there either.

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KqWIN · Post #564 » by **KqWIN** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:32 am

Roberson is actually something I could see us doing for Dante. OKC loves guys with high pedigree from their draft status or high school careers (Noel, Kanter, Waiters, Bazley, Ferguson, Diallo, Dipo ect).

I don't think it's a trade we should do now, too much uncertainty and it's not in the Jazz's favor. Roberson may never be healthy again, Dante might actually be healthy and a good player for us. I think OKC still does this trade if Dante is not having a great season, maybe injured again, and Roberson wants out. Presti is really making a point that he wants to do best by his players.

Daddy 801 · Post #565 » by **Daddy 801** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:59 am

Whose actually watching these summer league games? I love to attend those when I can but his year in just too busy. Haven’t seen one minute of them. Tony B. Is putting up impressive numbers. Are those real or a facade? Can he actually be a third string C?

Rauxcee · Post #566 » by **Rauxcee** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:32 am

Roberson can't even be on the floor in the 4th due to his putrid FT shooting. Not to mention he has no other offensive game. Exum can at least get to the basket lightning quick and make FT.

No thanks. Especially not knowing were Roberson is health wise.

SoCalJazzFan · Post #567 » by **SoCalJazzFan** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:24 pm

Daddy 801 wrote:Whose actually watching these summer league games? I love to attend those when I can but his year in just too busy. Haven’t seen one minute of them. Tony B. Is putting up impressive numbers. Are those real or a facade? Can he actually be a third string C?

He has always been pretty good at rebounding and that is coming through this summer again. What is a good development is that he has lost some weight and gained some strength and occasionally blocks shots and dunks. However, his defense isn't very good and it is questionable whether he can get away with what he is doing in SL vs NBA players. I still question whether he is an NBA player, but he is starting to project as a 3rd string center used only as needed on a limited basis.

SoCalJazzFan · Post #568 » by **SoCalJazzFan** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:25 pm

Before his last injury (I've lost count how many that one was), Exum was starting to play well. We should see how this season goes for him before giving up, IMO.

SoCalJazzFan · Post #569 » by **SoCalJazzFan** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:25 pm

BTW, I haven't seen Brantley play in the last couple of SL games- anyone know why?

stitches · Post #570 » by **stitches** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:48 pm

SoCalJazzFan wrote:BTW, I haven't seen Brantley play in the last couple of SL games- anyone know why?

Hamstring injury.

stitches · Post #571 » by **stitches** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:20 pm

If you guys believe in #LockeWatch, he's been throwing Isaiah Cousins' name as potential roster spot guy a lot out there. It's possible he gets a contract and a roster spot.

KqWIN · Post #572 » by **KqWIN** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:27 am

Donovan's world tour is not going as planned. Apparently fans were waiting in his hotel in China all day and he posted an instagram video of it. You can find it in the thread below (turn on google translate). Now his instagram is being flooded with hateful and racist comments.

https://bbs.hupu.com/28401449.html?merge_tid=28452408

stitches · Post #573 » by **stitches** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:46 am

KqWIN wrote:Donovan's world tour is not going as planned. Apparently fans were waiting in his hotel in China all day and he posted an instagram video of it. You can find it in the thread below (turn on google translate). Now his instagram is being flooded with hateful and racist comments.

https://bbs.hupu.com/28401449.html?merge_tid=28452408

From what I gather, he'd already met those fans and signed their stuff, but they kept staying there. And then the internet mob took a hold of that video and assumed he's making fun of them...

KqWIN · Post #574 » by **KqWIN** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:50 am

stitches wrote:
KqWIN wrote:Donovan's world tour is not going as planned. Apparently fans were waiting in his hotel in China all day and he posted an instagram video of it. You can find it in the thread below (turn on google translate). Now his instagram is being flooded with hateful and racist comments.

https://bbs.hupu.com/28401449.html?merge_tid=28452408

From what I gather, he'd already met those fans and signed their stuff, but they kept staying there. And then the internet mob took a hold of that video and assumed he's making fun of them...

Yeah...I think there's a massive culture difference and misunderstanding. I saw the video, he wasn't mocking them. He was basically like, "man these fans are crazy over here".

It's insane that Mitchell is the one falling victim to the internet hive mind. He's notorious for being fan friendly and Rubio even told him he has stop being so nice to fans. I don't know how you recover from a Chinese internet mob...but I hope the story gets settled straight.

No-Man · Post #575 » by **No-Man** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:44 pm

Seems like Nigel Williams-Goss will be coming over, not sure if to the Jazz or you'd trade his rights, but I think he would be a good addition to this roster too, may be better than Mudiay tbh

babyjax13 · Post #576 » by **babyjax13** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:08 pm

Fischella wrote:Seems like Nigel Williams-Goss will be coming over, not sure if to the Jazz or you'd trade his rights, but I think he would be a good addition to this roster too, may be better than Mudiay tbh

We've apparently signed him to a multi-year deal. Either we don't see Dante as a PG, or he is being shopped.

KqWIN · Post #577 » by **KqWIN** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:24 pm

If NWG or Mudiay pans out...look out for an Exum/Aminu potential trade.

Post #578 » by **Inigo Montoya** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:03 pm

So far the reports are NWG was signed on a 3-year deal, no word on options. The Jazz also paid a $1M buyout to his club.

https://www.eurohoops.net/en/nba-news/906580/nigel-williams-goss-to-sign-with-the-utah-jazz/

So we have 4 PGs now? Granted, Mudiay and Exum will not be called real PGs by some, but still.

Rauxcee · Post #579 » by **Rauxcee** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:32 pm

Inigo Montoya wrote:So far the reports are NWG was signed on a 3-year deal, no word on options. The Jazz also paid a $1M buyout to his club.

https://www.eurohoops.net/en/nba-news/906580/nigel-williams-goss-to-sign-with-the-utah-jazz/

So we have 4 PGs now? Granted, Mudiay and Exum will not be called real PGs by some, but still.

Considering Conley is likely to miss about 15 games, and if Exum sneezes too hard he could miss extended time, we might need it. The third string PG needs a back up when he has to start because our starter and back up are missing games.

I'm only most joking by the way. Mostly.

pickIBL · Post #580 » by **pickIBL** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:10 pm

Yea i mean if you just look at the contracts you can see Exum is the guy. It's not personal. It's just time to shop his contract.