The Comedian wrote:reflex35 wrote:Bleeding Green wrote:I'd laugh because it's significantly less than Murray just got. Why would he even think of signing that? There is no incentive on Brown's side to sign anything less than what Murray got, and there is no incentive on Boston's side to offer him the max.
I am no Jaylen Brown fan, don't get me wrong, He has very little feel for the game, terrible handle, no passing ability, and he'll always be limited because of those issues. But what he is has little to do with what some other team will offer him during his RFA period. He'll be 23, he's a former #3 pick, he's had two really good playoff seasons, Terry Rozier just got 19 million a year, etc. If I'm the Celtics I'm not offering him anything because there is just no reason to do so. Let other teams dictate his worth and then match or let him walk.
Jaylen Brown is a smart dude, he knows the only reason to play this sport is for the money, so he's not taking a penny less than he should. He will do whatever will maximize his lifetime earnings. He even avoided having an agent during his rookie negotiation because he knew every player just gets 120% of the scale so why not save a couple hundred thousand bucks? He'll go hard for Chris Paul's position when Paul retires.
Please give me an example of a guy that makes 170mil/5 year and has an average of 13 points and 4 rebs? That's 34 mil a year for 13pts and 4 rebs just to clarify.
Would you bring worst contracts in the league? Wiggins, CP3, etc...? Even those are a lot better.
I will wait for you to give an example.
Let's not fix ourselves that someone is 23 or 24 or 25 years old. Value is value. If you say that you believe that Jaylen would be 20/5/5 guy as Murray will be for sure then that is fine. But you better believe in it.
You're using the raw stats as an end all, you need to take roles into account, and defense. Jaylen would probably be putting up 20/6/2 in Malones offense, while being a very good defender when he puts the effort in.
I'm not as high on Jaylen as most, but he absolutely will get more than 4/100, IMO. 5/150 is what I'd bank on if he has the year i expect.
I am really not trying to be a "smart guy" and have no intention to argue.
I will put it to you in this way - "if someone is stupid enough to do something STUPID it does not mean that you have to do the same thing..."
You said Rozier got 19 mil. Yeah - he did and that is why charlotte is a bottom team. Why do thing Danny did not do it?
And I can't argue with you that some team can throw a bag of money to Jaylen. That as well might happen, but it does not mean that Celtics should not evaluate the "real value".
Someone here brought up Sabonis. I am Lithuanian and I follow Domas closely as well.
What do you think he will get having a lot better stats than Jaylen? Do you think he will get 34 mil a year?
Don't want to disappoint you but the fair offer to him is around 16-20 mil per year. And I am not a stats rat because defence does not and even though Sabas is great I would give Jaylen more... therefore 25mil a year is fair...
I would as well consider Sabas and Brown swap for both organizations. Maybe pacers have to add something to that but it would be fair for both sides as well. Celtics would get a young promising big and Jaylen will be able to help Pacers and get out of Tatum's shadow.