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[GONYK]

How far would a team of No.1s not including Zion go this year?

DeAndre Ayton
Markelle Fultz
Ben Simmons
Karl-Anthony Towns
Andrew Wiggins

~38 wins

[newyorker4ever]

How far would a team of No.1s not including Zion go this year?

DeAndre Ayton
Markelle Fultz
Ben Simmons
Karl-Anthony Towns
Andrew Wiggins

That depends on if we're allowed to pick our own No.1's or have to use the 5 you provided?

[blueNorange]

barrett being an elite rebounder at the 2 guard gets me excited for his future position at the 4.

[smw6230]

Quiz question: is Bob Marley the most successful Jamaican musician ever?

[HarthorneWingo]

barrett being an elite rebounder at the 2 guard gets me excited for his future position at the 4.

I believe I heard the same on Knicks Film School (or one of the other bball podcasts). Hopefully, it'll be for another team.

[Jeffrey]

How far would a team of No.1s not including Zion go this year?

DeAndre Ayton
Markelle Fultz
Ben Simmons
Karl-Anthony Towns
Andrew Wiggins

That depends on if we're allowed to pick our own No.1's or have to use the 5 you provided?

The 5 I've provided.

[Chanel Bomber]

How far would a team of No.1s not including Zion go this year?

DeAndre Ayton
Markelle Fultz
Ben Simmons
Karl-Anthony Towns
Andrew Wiggins

That depends on if we're allowed to pick our own No.1's or have to use the 5 you provided?

The 5 I've provided.

Playoffs as a 7-8 seed in the East, lottery in the West.

KAT is the only real blue chipper there. Ben Simmons is a regular season type player, who can win you 40 games yet be unplayable in the postseason. I'm low on Ayton personally (good stats bad team guy to me) but hopefully he surprises me this coming season.

[2010]

Let’s just put RJ at Center while we are at it, since he is a good rebounder. And Frank at Power Forward. Smith Jr. at Small Forward since he is bouncy. Yeah!

[Capn'O]

Let’s just put RJ and Center while we are at it, since he is a good rebounder. And Frank at Power Forward. Smith Jr. at Small Forward since he is bouncy. Yeah!

Name that quote:

"You 3, me fired."

[F N 11]

Knicks whole team can board it and go. Even Mitch. Theres going to be a lot of violating on the break.

[HarthorneWingo]

I'll leave these right here just to show you that I'm not being "a hater" when it comes to RJ. These are things that I along with others find concerning about his game.

https://www.thestepien.com/2019/06/18/rj-barrett-scouting-report/

https://medium.com/sportsraid/rj-barrett-not-elite-nba-draft-prospect-2019-basketball-duke-rankings-canada-overrated-bust-cf106ca4900

[GONYK]

Let’s just put RJ and Center while we are at it, since he is a good rebounder. And Frank at Power Forward. Smith Jr. at Small Forward since he is bouncy. Yeah!

Name that quote:

"You 3, me fired."

Jeff Van Gundy da Gawd

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

I'll leave these right here just to show you that I'm not being "a hater" when it comes to RJ. These are things that I along with others find concerning about his game.

https://www.thestepien.com/2019/06/18/rj-barrett-scouting-report/

https://medium.com/sportsraid/rj-barrett-not-elite-nba-draft-prospect-2019-basketball-duke-rankings-canada-overrated-bust-cf106ca4900

The second of those articles is a good read. I think, although it's in some ways a trick of the presentation, the guy does a decent job of setting out the case for RJ as well as the one he ends up liking better, the case against him being a net positive draft.

I'm much more cautious about making my mind up this early. Just as I was (and still am) about Knox. [At the risk of repetition: I take nothing at all away from summer league performances and stats - for someone like a top-ten-FRP at least. My only take away is that I hate that the coaches were letting Mitch foul at 7.75 -as called in summer league - (or whatever it was) per 36 (through the first 4 games - I didn't bother recalculating to include the last one).]

[Nazrmohamed]

I'll tell you because I really liked NAW going into the draft. But I liked RJ better. So much so that I was one of the few who wouldve traded down had the Grizzlied drafted him and left Morant for us.

But NAW isnt really like Trier or at least wasnt. You never know with young players. I've seen guys like Kurt Thomas be the NCAAs leading scorer or something high like that then become a role player in the NBA. I've seen defensive studs with minimal offense then figure out offense and slowly put aside thier defense so you never know. I'm actually surprised by NAW scoring totals in SL. But when you think of nba comparison hed supposed to be alot closer to Avery Bradley or that kid the Sixers traded Mikal Bridges for (name escapes me). Great defensive player, undersized but with arms long enough to cover SFs if necessary whos stuck in between positions on offense. Can handle the ball enough to score where they want but cant run an offense and a bit short for a pure SG.

Trier is actually 6'5, built like a tank and more offensive sink or swim.

Sounds like a good player, but for him, and that thought of trading for picks, I think the Knicks are still in that "get that top 2 players" mode. Yes, they had one in KP, but he's gone, whatever the story or take someone believes in.

Who knows what "top 2" or 3 are anymore? Look at Zion, for example. He could be a bust. Who knows if his frame can carry a locomotive train that can jump skyscrapers. His outside shot sucks too.

I think people get smitten with shiny objects. You watch, the pearls in this draft won't be the first three picks.

That could be very true. In fact I liked a guy named Kevin Porter Jr more than any wing not named RJ Barrett and he got drafted 30th. Thing is as you said, nobody knows and at pick 3 you dont start getting cute IMO. You grab the consensus 3rd best player in the draft. Look, all these scouts had doubts about this or that with every prospect yet RJs draft status stayed the same all year for the most part. 1-3. Zero volatility. We got cute with KP and it worked. Have alittle faith on our scouts. I think they do a solid job and have a track record for doing a solid job outside of Frank Ntilikina.

[JustCame]

I'll leave these right here just to show you that I'm not being "a hater" when it comes to RJ. These are things that I along with others find concerning about his game.

https://www.thestepien.com/2019/06/18/rj-barrett-scouting-report/

https://medium.com/sportsraid/rj-barrett-not-elite-nba-draft-prospect-2019-basketball-duke-rankings-canada-overrated-bust-cf106ca4900

The second of those articles is a good read. I think, although it's in some ways a trick of the presentation, the guy does a decent job of setting out the case for RJ as well as the one he ends up liking better, the case against him being a net positive draft.

I'm much more cautious about making my mind up this early. Just as I was (and still am) about Knox. [At the risk of repetition: I take nothing at all away from summer league performances and stats - for someone like a top-ten-FRP at least. My only take away is that I hate that the coaches were letting Mitch foul at 7.75 -as called in summer league - (or whatever it was) per 36 (through the first 4 games - I didn't bother recalculating to include the last one).]

I read that second article, and the author's conclusion was dreadful. He said he ranks him around the top 10 prospects in the draft, but also said he expects him to a make a couple all-star games? His main argument was that he might cripple a team with his contract in the future. So let's just use the 3rd pick on a solid role player instead? That's the worst argument I've seen so far.

[Jeff Van Gully]

Quiz question: is Bob Marley the most successful Jamaican musician ever?

depends on how you define success. but the highest selling jamaican artist of all time is shaggy.

[Jeff Van Gully]

How far would a team of No.1s not including Zion go this year?

DeAndre Ayton
Markelle Fultz
Ben Simmons
Karl-Anthony Towns
Andrew Wiggins

That depends on if we're allowed to pick our own No.1's or have to use the 5 you provided?

humor us please

[taj2133]

Watch on YouTube

[Jeff Van Gully]

That depends on if we're allowed to pick our own No.1's or have to use the 5 you provided?

The 5 I've provided.

Playoffs as a 7-8 seed in the East, lottery in the West.

KAT is the only real blue chipper there. Ben Simmons is a regular season type player, who can win you 40 games yet be unplayable in the postseason. I'm low on Ayton personally (good stats bad team guy to me) but hopefully he surprises me this coming season.

markelle can't lift his arm above his shoulder. KAT is a stat padding, no defense disappointment. wiggins... ugh. ayton is a bully. ben simmons is a legit point man.

that team ain't making the playoffs with that starting 5. wiggins is your OG?

[Jeff Van Gully]

That depends on if we're allowed to pick our own No.1's or have to use the 5 you provided?

The 5 I've provided.

Playoffs as a 7-8 seed in the East, lottery in the West.

KAT is the only real blue chipper there. Ben Simmons is a regular season type player, who can win you 40 games yet be unplayable in the postseason. I'm low on Ayton personally (good stats bad team guy to me) but hopefully he surprises me this coming season.

markelle can't lift his arm above his shoulder. KAT is a stat padding, no defense disappointment. wiggins... ugh. ayton is a bully. ben simmons is a legit point man.

that team ain't making the playoffs with that starting 5. wiggins is your OG?