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Post#321 » by Bucksfan28 » Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:27 pm

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Wait until you hear our activity for Saturday....paintball.


At that point, when it's a bunch of dudes who are all in it together, it's not an issue. Everyone's sweating but enjoying themselves so who really cares. Those situations are fine.

The **** that sucks is going to social events where no physical activity is occurring but you're still sweating your balls off and trying to maintain composure/hide your pit stains while interacting w/ people.


Bachelor parties around the Dells could end up at Chubbys which may qualify as a social interaction.

I guess for me it is the feeling of death and legitimate health concerns when drinking your face off in 100 degree heat. Things will probably be fine but anyone over the age of 25 likely needs 3-4 days to recover from that. Social interaction I don't really care as much anymore if I am sweating to death. Everyone's dealing with that one.


Yea, the health concerns are valid. I guess I'm just speaking more on the "how bothered am I by the situation" scale. Like my annual FF draft party has seen some really hot days and, while not ideal, I don't really care. But going to like a tame outdoor bday party or something of that nature and suffering (I sweat more than most) annoys me :lol:
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Post#322 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:46 pm

Mags FTW wrote:Anyone have a Roomba or know about them? Looking to grab one for Prime Day.


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Post#323 » by Mags FTW » Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:09 pm

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Mags FTW wrote:Anyone have a Roomba or know about them? Looking to grab one for Prime Day.
Ooh, I need to snag one too! Looking forward to reviews from this eclectic fraternity. U guys is da best.

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Post#325 » by IrishRainbow » Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:04 pm

So, I'm 42 and just bought a GT freestyle bike... to you know, get my freestyle back on.

Phew. That was a load to bury.

Oh... and pedal rash still funucking sucks

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Post#326 » by MickeyDavis » Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:40 pm

crkone wrote:Once my kids move out I'm heading to Reno. I want to be in Lake Tahoe every day in the summer.

That area is awesome
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Post#327 » by Kerb Hohl » Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:37 pm

Only thing with Reno is in my brief one day there it seemed like 90% of the shore access was restricted to the people with tons of money that owned property or were staying there. I'm sure there are good spots for the public schlub heading up from Reno but that is the impression I got.
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Post#328 » by crkone » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:01 pm

Kerb Hohl wrote:Only thing with Reno is in my brief one day there it seemed like 90% of the shore access was restricted to the people with tons of money that owned property or were staying there. I'm sure there are good spots for the public schlub heading up from Reno but that is the impression I got.


I think there are over 20 public beaches on Tahoe :D .

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Post#329 » by Kerb Hohl » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:10 pm

There seemed to be a lot of people mentioning insomnia/sleep issues on here during other discussions a few weeks back.

I've kinda gone through a lot of the motions, but although I have very low levels of stress in life and very minor anxiety (nothing I'd ever worry about getting treated at this point, probably within normal levels that most have), I got a random panic attack almost 2 months ago when I did have a bit of stress one night and didn't sleep.

Since then I've kinda battled with being unable to sleep on a lot of nights. Like 1-2 times/week I either don't sleep or lately I've been able to pull it back to like somewhere between 2-5 AM falling asleep. I have already gone through a ton of self-training to help sleep (take a break from trying and listen to a podcast or go in another room and read, phone away early most nights, breathing, music, etc.) and that improved things but not fully. At first I thought I had suddenly developed major anxiety issues but that has mostly gone away other than some small flutters if I am worried about sleeping the night after I barely got any.

Also ran a random gamut of sleep aids. I mentioned the issues at my physical and the doctor recommended benadryl on top of the melatonin I was already taking (also realized that singulair which they gave me earlier for barely existent asthma can cause drowsiness). I understand where the doctor was coming from with the benadryl idea given that he was trying to instill confidence when I mentioned anxiety (early in this process) that I could overcome this and it was likely short-term. But I've read benadryl over time isn't great. I think I basically developed dependence/tolerance to a cocktail of these 3. I'm a giant wuss generally and won't take outside of the directed amounts but I did overdo some of them in the "I just need to get through these few nights" when this first hit me. So I've pulled all of that other than 3 mg melatonin as-needed, which is how I functioned up until a few moths ago except "as needed" was once a month, not basically every night. I also was given xanax to try from my dad and it helped for a night or 2 and I could already feel the side effects prepping to destroy me and I'm not someone that needs this, probably. As noted, I am very averse to doing many drugs due to fear of dependence so I am not touching that **** again.

I think I've kinda dialed everything back and am sleeping a bit better but last night was a 5 AM night once I was finally feeling confident again.

I think there's a chance I battle through this but my main question is: did anyone else get a random onset of insomnia in their 30s? Like, I was always a night-owl and maybe I couldn't sleep until 2-3 AM once/month, but this has come out of nowhere and hit me hard.

Oh, and if I do figure this out, I will have a 2nd kid so I will probably get all **** up again.
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Post#330 » by Kerb Hohl » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:11 pm

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Kerb Hohl wrote:Only thing with Reno is in my brief one day there it seemed like 90% of the shore access was restricted to the people with tons of money that owned property or were staying there. I'm sure there are good spots for the public schlub heading up from Reno but that is the impression I got.


I think there are over 20 public beaches on Tahoe :D .


Ah, yeah...I was only there for a day basically so that shows what I know.
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Post#331 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:16 pm

I know you said no to drugs, but I'll share what's worked best for me. I've taken Primidone for years, usually between 100mg and 200mg, and it almost always works to knock me out inside of 45 minutes. No side effects. Usually take it when the lady goes to bed, and I'll stay in the living room reading or playing a game for a half hour. When I can feel myself getting drowsy I join her.
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Post#332 » by Kerb Hohl » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:20 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:I know you said no to drugs, but I'll share what's worked best for me. I've taken Primodone for years, usually between 100mg and 200mg, and it almost always works to knock me out inside of 45 minutes. No side effects. Usually take it when the lady goes to bed, and I'll stay in the living room reading or playing a game for a half hour. When I can feel myself getting drowsy I join her.


Thanks, that could be helpful. I'm not a "no to drugs" completely but I do prefer not to get into something unless I really, really need it. I think the benadryl and overdoing melatonin (a very recent thing) kinda started a tolerance and dependence real quick. There's obviously a point of melatonin somewhere around 5 mg where there isn't an added effectiveness but I was pushing over it several nights/week because I didn't know what the hell was going on. I'll look into that as it seems you might need a prescription for it. But I probably should do more of a thing where I hang in the other room winding down for 30 min. Trying to sleep too early with insomnia is not the best idea as you get worked up just sitting there.
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Post#333 » by crkone » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:36 pm

Kerb Hohl wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:I know you said no to drugs, but I'll share what's worked best for me. I've taken Primodone for years, usually between 100mg and 200mg, and it almost always works to knock me out inside of 45 minutes. No side effects. Usually take it when the lady goes to bed, and I'll stay in the living room reading or playing a game for a half hour. When I can feel myself getting drowsy I join her.


Thanks, that could be helpful. I'm not a "no to drugs" completely but I do prefer not to get into something unless I really, really need it. I think the benadryl and overdoing melatonin (a very recent thing) kinda started a tolerance and dependence real quick. There's obviously a point of melatonin somewhere around 5 mg where there isn't an added effectiveness but I was pushing over it several nights/week because I didn't know what the hell was going on. I'll look into that as it seems you might need a prescription for it. But I probably should do more of a thing where I hang in the other room winding down for 30 min. Trying to sleep too early with insomnia is not the best idea as you get worked up just sitting there.


Have you gotten blood work done lately? Just a check up on your metabolites and cell counts could be useful. Your doctor could also give you some suggestions. You could also try CBD. We've recently got some gummies online and they really help to calm me down. 500mgs I'd start with.

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Post#334 » by Kerb Hohl » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:42 pm

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ReasonablySober wrote:I know you said no to drugs, but I'll share what's worked best for me. I've taken Primodone for years, usually between 100mg and 200mg, and it almost always works to knock me out inside of 45 minutes. No side effects. Usually take it when the lady goes to bed, and I'll stay in the living room reading or playing a game for a half hour. When I can feel myself getting drowsy I join her.


Thanks, that could be helpful. I'm not a "no to drugs" completely but I do prefer not to get into something unless I really, really need it. I think the benadryl and overdoing melatonin (a very recent thing) kinda started a tolerance and dependence real quick. There's obviously a point of melatonin somewhere around 5 mg where there isn't an added effectiveness but I was pushing over it several nights/week because I didn't know what the hell was going on. I'll look into that as it seems you might need a prescription for it. But I probably should do more of a thing where I hang in the other room winding down for 30 min. Trying to sleep too early with insomnia is not the best idea as you get worked up just sitting there.


Have you gotten blood work done lately? Just a check up on your metabolites and cell counts could be useful. Your doctor could also give you some suggestions. You could also try CBD. We've recently got some gummies online and they really help to calm me down. 500mgs I'd start with.


My dad has just gone with straight THC edibles for years for himself and has been pushing that on me and I'll try soon. Will also consider CBD.

One of the things recently is that I've felt 100% relaxed but my brain just doesn't go over the edge.

Bloodwork might be helpful, my first visit with the doctor I had assumed it was anxiety so he treated it as such. Sure, anxiety has come from this a bit, but I think there's just really some insomnia involved.
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Post#335 » by Bucksfan28 » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:02 pm

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Thanks, that could be helpful. I'm not a "no to drugs" completely but I do prefer not to get into something unless I really, really need it. I think the benadryl and overdoing melatonin (a very recent thing) kinda started a tolerance and dependence real quick. There's obviously a point of melatonin somewhere around 5 mg where there isn't an added effectiveness but I was pushing over it several nights/week because I didn't know what the hell was going on. I'll look into that as it seems you might need a prescription for it. But I probably should do more of a thing where I hang in the other room winding down for 30 min. Trying to sleep too early with insomnia is not the best idea as you get worked up just sitting there.


Have you gotten blood work done lately? Just a check up on your metabolites and cell counts could be useful. Your doctor could also give you some suggestions. You could also try CBD. We've recently got some gummies online and they really help to calm me down. 500mgs I'd start with.


My dad has just gone with straight THC edibles for years for himself and has been pushing that on me and I'll try soon. Will also consider CBD.

One of the things recently is that I've felt 100% relaxed but my brain just doesn't go over the edge.

Bloodwork might be helpful, my first visit with the doctor I had assumed it was anxiety so he treated it as such. Sure, anxiety has come from this a bit, but I think there's just really some insomnia involved.


I rely a bit on THC, it's effective for me. As a heads-up, some people claim their anxiety heightens when they use it. I think that's mostly when you overdo it via smoking but just something to keep in mind. I haven't tried CBD but the people I know that have say it really mellows them out.
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Post#336 » by Kerb Hohl » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:04 pm

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Have you gotten blood work done lately? Just a check up on your metabolites and cell counts could be useful. Your doctor could also give you some suggestions. You could also try CBD. We've recently got some gummies online and they really help to calm me down. 500mgs I'd start with.


My dad has just gone with straight THC edibles for years for himself and has been pushing that on me and I'll try soon. Will also consider CBD.

One of the things recently is that I've felt 100% relaxed but my brain just doesn't go over the edge.

Bloodwork might be helpful, my first visit with the doctor I had assumed it was anxiety so he treated it as such. Sure, anxiety has come from this a bit, but I think there's just really some insomnia involved.


I rely a bit on THC, it's effective for me. As a heads-up, some people claim their anxiety heightens when they use it. I think that's mostly when you overdo it via smoking but just something to keep in mind. I haven't tried CBD but the people I know that have say it really mellows them out.


Yeah, I am a pretty infrequent smoker but I've had anxiety heighten with it a handful of times. But I think if I find the right strain I'd be good.
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Post#337 » by Iheartfootball » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:16 pm

I'm in a graduate program right now that addresses, among many other wellness areas, sleep. There is a ton of fascinating research on what lack of sleep does to the mind/body connection. If anyone would like me to forward them some of the articles I've read I would be happy too. It's empirically based.

One thing about screen time is that it's best to try to turn off all screens one hour before bed. It throws off our internal clocks as the light makes our brains assume it's still daytime and inhibits our natural melatonin release. Also, sleeping with the TV on can do the same as that light still gets through our eyelids.

Also, it's all connected. The anxiety, insomnia, depression. Research has shown that creating and sticking to a proper self care regime that incorporates nutrition, sleep, exercise, nature, connected relationships, and spirituality can reverse or at least reduce anxiety and depression better than medication in most people.

Kerb Hohl, you mentioned this started in your thirties. Late or early thirties? Midlife crisis is a real thing for the much of the American population. It's okay to give that space and explore it deeper. Might be what the lack of sleep and anxiety is trying to tell you. Talking to your primary care physician about any issues is a great place to start as well.
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Post#338 » by Kerb Hohl » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:27 pm

Iheartfootball wrote:Kerb Hohl, you mentioned this started in your thirties. Late or early thirties? Midlife crisis is a real thing for the much of the American population. It's okay to give that space and explore it deeper. Might be what the lack of sleep and anxiety is trying to tell you. Talking to your primary care physician about any issues is a great place to start as well.


Early, approaching mid. I don't feel any issues like that. The only one I'd say is in the past if I had a bad night or 2 I'd probably just say, "eh, I can sleep into class" or "I can just go into work late." Problem now is now with 1, soon to be 2 kids, there is anxiety of not being able to have that comfort anymore if the clock ticks later at night.

I am giving it a few more weeks trying to break out of it myself. It's just weird that it pretty much came out of nowhere.
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Post#339 » by humanrefutation » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:32 pm

I had some bad insomnia last week - I went a few days without getting more than a couple hours of sleep a night. I too have tried to avoid taking meds to help, because I've seen from family members how they can become a dependency (plus, it's a bit unsettling to have a conversation with a family member who recently took a dose of ambien in anticipation of going to sleep - their cognitive and emotional regulation is out of wack and they don't realize it, and you can have some awkward discussions that they'll have zero recollection of the next morning).

I might have to talk to my doc, though.
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Post#340 » by buckboy » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:31 pm

I started going through NFL/NBA drafts when falling asleep. See how far I could get before I dozed off. "With the 8th pick in the 2019 NBA draft, the Atlanta Hawks select Jaxson Hayes". I've been doing this or something similar for 10 years. Sounds ridiculous, but it works like a damn charm.

Plus I'm really good at draft trivia.
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