Celtics General Offseason Thread Pt 11: Kanter believe you thought of former player

[Fencer reregistered]

Yeah, nah.

Smart undeniably made a much stronger contribution to many more wins the previous season, despite playing hurt, and despite carrying a sorry scoring-deficient bench on a very young team that made it to a game away from the Finals despite missing two All-Stars.

The whole idea of his making some major leap as a player this year comes from stat-biased people who whiffed hard on the guy for multiple years in a row simply because they didn't know how to process a player's contribution outside of box scores.

For the ones who hated on him hard, as many did? Well, they don't have to own it, but it will own them whether they like it or not.

So your claim is that he contributed more to winning the previous year, presumably not in the area of shooting/scoring, and probably not in passing as well? So what DID he do better or more effectively two seasons ago that didn't work as well last season, in your opinion?

I think he was good both years, and the year before that as well. He played more "within himself" this year, mostly because we didn't need him to help replace all the scoring and playmaking that we were missing with Hayward and Kyrie out the previous season. So great, better shot selection, and better shooting, with a healthier thumb.

But yes, he made a bigger contribution the year before. He was massive in helping to key all those big comebacks that we had, and was the heart and soul of an overachieving team in a lot of ways. I don't hold this year against him, but he had less impact on this season for sure.

So intangible leadership?

Or something more specific like defensive QBing?

[FakeScreenName123]

BG hates stats because he hates guards who score the ball

but he likes Marcus smart more now cos Marcus shot the ball better

[Wes-J]

Via Evan Turner's Twitter stream:

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Wow I'm stunned he's (Oden) actually playing basketball but good for him.

I've run into him a few times at the local Best Buy and he walks with a limp.

Where do you and he live?

Dublin, Ohio

[Captain_Caveman]

So your claim is that he contributed more to winning the previous year, presumably not in the area of shooting/scoring, and probably not in passing as well? So what DID he do better or more effectively two seasons ago that didn't work as well last season, in your opinion?

I think he was good both years, and the year before that as well. He played more "within himself" this year, mostly because we didn't need him to help replace all the scoring and playmaking that we were missing with Hayward and Kyrie out the previous season. So great, better shot selection, and better shooting, with a healthier thumb.

But yes, he made a bigger contribution the year before. He was massive in helping to key all those big comebacks that we had, and was the heart and soul of an overachieving team in a lot of ways. I don't hold this year against him, but he had less impact on this season for sure.

So intangible leadership?

Or something more specific like defensive QBing?

Honestly, shouldn't even need to be explained at this point to anyone who has watched the games. Dude is a true Celtic and an elite competitor. He's mad gully.

Watch on YouTube

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This is such a BS article and one of the biggest problems in our society with reporting, not just sports. Headline says one thing basing it on Windbag, yet, a more respected reporter refutes it, but the D-Bag comment gets the headline. Come on RealGM, be better than this. And the basis of the idiotic article is Windbag saying, "from what I am told"? WTF does that mean? My son, who is 6, today told me we should have a house on the ocean because the scenery is really nice (which I agree). However, I wouldn't use him as "from what I'm told". And the whole "stomping" their feet BS? Pretty confident in saying Ainge, nor anyone in the Celtics organization or the world for that matter stomped their feet. WTF is wrong with people?

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Added to shopping cart. The seahorses were especially cute.

If you thought Canman's Windbag article was bad, wait until you see this garbage from Screamin' A:

https://www.ebay.com/b/Video-Professor-Computer-Software-English-Version/18793/bn_2786043

[Bleeding Green]

So your claim is that he contributed more to winning the previous year, presumably not in the area of shooting/scoring, and probably not in passing as well? So what DID he do better or more effectively two seasons ago that didn't work as well last season, in your opinion?

No my point is that he was better last year than any year previous because he overhauled his shot profile and improved the accuracy on the shots he did take. I never said anything about his being better previously. He was really good, then he improved his shooting, now he's great.

That's YOUR point. But I was addressing Cave, who seems to disagree with you.

Oh ****, I totally misunderstood that bit lmao

Anyone else buy the cactus lights from canman's amazon link? I think they'll look nice draped around my Rex Chapman shrine.

[Bleeding Green]

BG hates stats because he hates guards who score the ball

but he likes Marcus smart more now cos Marcus shot the ball better

Pretty much. I let my guard down with Kyrie and he burned me. Never again. These scoring guards can **** right off.

[zoyathedestroya]

Stock up in that guttdamn bunker...

[Fencer reregistered]

Wow I'm stunned he's (Oden) actually playing basketball but good for him.

I've run into him a few times at the local Best Buy and he walks with a limp.

Where do you and he live?

Dublin, Ohio

That was the last place my parents lived, in Friendship Village, the "independent living" complex on Riverside Drive. They moved to the Columbus area in 1974. I got out in 1976, after graduating from OSU, but they never left.

[Fencer reregistered]

I think he was good both years, and the year before that as well. He played more "within himself" this year, mostly because we didn't need him to help replace all the scoring and playmaking that we were missing with Hayward and Kyrie out the previous season. So great, better shot selection, and better shooting, with a healthier thumb.

But yes, he made a bigger contribution the year before. He was massive in helping to key all those big comebacks that we had, and was the heart and soul of an overachieving team in a lot of ways. I don't hold this year against him, but he had less impact on this season for sure.

So intangible leadership?

Or something more specific like defensive QBing?

Honestly, shouldn't even need to be explained at this point to anyone who has watched the games. Dude is a true Celtic and an elite competitor. He's mad gully.

Watch on YouTube

I disagree. Despite your multiple attempts to duck doing so, I think you should explain why you're denigrating his contributions of last season.

[Bleeding Green]

Stock up in that guttdamn bunker...

http://tradenba.com/trades/S1_MXa0-S

Who says no?

[Captain_Caveman]

So intangible leadership?

Or something more specific like defensive QBing?

Honestly, shouldn't even need to be explained at this point to anyone who has watched the games. Dude is a true Celtic and an elite competitor. He's mad gully.

Watch on YouTube

I disagree. Despite your multiple attempts to duck doing so, I think you should explain why you're denigrating his contributions of last season.

That's definitely not what is happening here. I'm a big Marcus here guy since forever ago. What I am saying here is that (a) Marcus been doing it for years now, (b) that a bunch of stat-biased people here hated on him and his supporters super, super hard for multiple seasons, (c) the truth came out in the wash on that, (d) those same folks are trying to not only duck that L they clearly earned by pointing to scoring efficiency stats that are insignificant relative to his scoring usage, and that (e) despite being asked to do too much the season before last due to us missing two All-Stars, he actually had a significantly bigger contribution to a a team that was significantly more successful.

Tell me what part of that you are confused about, and I will be happy to educate you.

[Fencer reregistered]

That's definitely not what is happening here. I'm a big Marcus here guy since forever ago. What I am saying here is that (a) Marcus been doing it for years now, (b) that a bunch of stat-biased people here hated on him and his supporters super, super hard for multiple seasons, (c) the truth came out in the wash on that, (d) those same folks are trying to not only duck that L they clearly earned by pointing to scoring efficiency stats that are insignificant relative to his scoring usage, and that (e) despite being asked to do too much the season before last due to us missing two All-Stars, he actually had a significantly bigger contribution to a a team that was significantly more successful.

Tell me what part of that you are confused about, and I will be happy to educate you.

The part where his contribution was significantly bigger. What did he do two seasons ago that he didn't do (as much of) last season, to an extent that made him a significantly greater contributor despite inferior scoring efficiency and inferior health?

[RB34]

Does Strus and Green mean officially no Tacko?

[Floody100]

Stock up in that guttdamn bunker...

http://tradenba.com/trades/S1_MXa0-S

Who says no?

Me.

[Fencer reregistered]

Does Strus and Green mean officially no Tacko?

No, because Ainge commonly signs one more guy than roster limits will allow him to eventually keep.

[eris]

Does Strus and Green mean officially no Tacko?

Nah!

A Two-Way contract can be dropped at a moment's notice by the team. The C's can carry up to 20 contracted players through Training Camp. They'll need to waive some guys to get down to 17 at that point, 15 regular roster and 2 two-ways.

[Shak_Celts]

Honestly, shouldn't even need to be explained at this point to anyone who has watched the games. Dude is a true Celtic and an elite competitor. He's mad gully.

Watch on YouTube

I disagree. Despite your multiple attempts to duck doing so, I think you should explain why you're denigrating his contributions of last season.

That's definitely not what is happening here. I'm a big Marcus here guy since forever ago. What I am saying here is that (a) Marcus been doing it for years now, (b) that a bunch of stat-biased people here hated on him and his supporters super, super hard for multiple seasons, (c) the truth came out in the wash on that, (d) those same folks are trying to not only duck that L they clearly earned by pointing to scoring efficiency stats that are insignificant relative to his scoring usage, and that (e) despite being asked to do too much the season before last due to us missing two All-Stars, he actually had a significantly bigger contribution to a a team that was significantly more successful.

Tell me what part of that you are confused about, and I will be happy to educate you.

Couldn't shoot, now he can, where's the issue? Saying that he couldn't shoot and he should have taken less, has nothing to do with what else he brings. I wish everybody would just take this supposed L, even people who don't deserve it, because it seems like it means a lot to you. I'll be the first! *hugging* the L. Satisfied?

I don't like to get into these types of "arguments" because they are nothing more than spirit drainers. I'm not bothered when a "told you" comes out (right or wrong) but to drag it on and on is so petty.

[Shak_Celts]

Stock up in that guttdamn bunker...

Tat looks skinny. Needs to add more fruity pebbles and pancakes!

[FlatearthZorro]

Stock up in that guttdamn bunker...

Danny needs to show special type of loyalty towards JT. He's been doing everything in his power for the team to compete for a title. That big dick move recruiting Jordan's best player on Jordan's own Nike trip was an all-time good one.