Thunder Offseason Thread Part Deux: Rebuild

Post #161 » by **Jamaaliver** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:56 pm

You guys have probably already seen this...

Old Man Game · Post #162 » by **Old Man Game** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 2:32 pm

God it really is nuts how many players we've had come through here. Literally none of the good ones arrived as free agents but all via draft or trade.

Post #163 » by **Jamaaliver** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 2:36 pm

Old Man Game wrote:God it really is nuts how many players we've had come through here. Literally none of the good ones arrived as free agents but all via draft or trade.

That should be comforting when considering how many draft picks you guys own in the future.

And Shai is a nice piece to start a rebuild with.

Old Man Game · Post #164 » by **Old Man Game** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 2:42 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
Old Man Game wrote:God it really is nuts how many players we've had come through here. Literally none of the good ones arrived as free agents but all via draft or trade.

That should be comforting when considering how many draft picks you guys own in the future.

And Shai is a nice piece to start a rebuild with.

On the one hand it is comforting but at the back of my mind I'm asking the question how long Presti can keep this up?

Sun_Tzu · Post #165 » by **Sun_Tzu** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 2:52 pm

Old Man Game wrote:Interesting that CP3 hasn't tweeted anything about playing in OKC yet. Makes me wonder if there's really as much finality to the determination as Woj's report from a couple days ago led us to believe.

Doubt there's any finality to the determination at all. OKC would rather move CP and he would rather be somewhere else. Presti will keep working to make that happen. In the event nothing gets worked out Presti is saying what has to be said. It also sends the message to potential trade partners that there is a viable alternative to a trade.

Kizz Fastfists · Post #166 » by **Kizz Fastfists** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 2:53 pm

Old Man Game wrote:Interesting that CP3 hasn't tweeted anything about playing in OKC yet. Makes me wonder if there's really as much finality to the determination as Woj's report from a couple days ago led us to believe.

I am sure that Presti will answer the phone if anyone calls about CP3. I am also fairly certain that he views CP3 like I do as a positive asset and isn't going to attach first rounds picks to get rid of him unless he is getting something in the deal worth more than those picks. I am not going to be surprised if Gallinari and CP3 are both moved before the season starts. I am also not going to be surprised if they start the season with OKC and they get off to a fast start and Presti decides to ride out one last playoff run. I am under the impression that Presti believes there is value in just making the playoffs, because that is either the case or he has shown incompetent at judging where his team is in relation to the league the last few years.

If he is incompetent at seeing where his team is in relation to the rest of the league then despite his draft record, big trades, etc. he is an incompetent GM. If you don't know who good your team is you don't know how much or how they need to improve. That makes you incapable of doing your job as a GM. So I am choosing to believe that Presti places value on just making the playoffs. That means there is no rush to make a move because this roster is capable of making the playoffs.

If we see something like Patterson and the Memphis 2nd to get out of the tax or a stretching or Roberson that will mean that Presti is leaving his options open for keeping this team together all season if they are in the playoff chase.

spearsy23 · Post #167 » by **spearsy23** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:01 pm

This roster is about as capable of making the playoffs as I am of sleeping with scar Jo tonight.

Post #168 » by **ThunderBolt** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:13 pm

I'm hoping we can trade Adams to Dallas, CP3 to LAL and and Gallinari to Portland. Considering we trade George to LAL and Russ to Houston, we will have help to create the strongest western conference in league history.

spearsy23 · Post #169 » by **spearsy23** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:23 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:I'm hoping we can trade Adams to Dallas, CP3 to LAL and and Gallinari to Portland. Considering we trade George to LAL and Russ to Houston, we will have help to create the strongest western conference in league history.

Also ensuring none of those teams tear down in the next couple of years giving us a couple year head start when they start the down cycle. Light years

Balkman32 · Post #170 » by **Balkman32** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:36 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:I'm hoping we can trade Adams to Dallas, CP3 to LAL and and Gallinari to Portland. Considering we trade George to LAL and Russ to Houston, we will have help to create the strongest western conference in league history.

For all of the first round picks. I think Adams would be a good one to keep around. I would make the Blazers over pay for Gallo, he would be a great fit there and I want their picks to make it worth our time.

jake_swivel · Post #171 » by **jake_swivel** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:14 pm

Fluff piece about the thunder potentially making the playoffs:

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2019/7/19/20699835/oklahoma-city-thunder-chris-paul-shai-gilgeous-alexander-playoffs

Old Man Game · Post #172 » by **Old Man Game** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:46 pm

jake_swivel wrote:Fluff piece about the thunder potentially making the playoffs:

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2019/7/19/20699835/oklahoma-city-thunder-chris-paul-shai-gilgeous-alexander-playoffs

I don't think the team will make the playoffs but I could see them winning enough games to be feisty and fun for sure.

thor19 · Post #173 » by **thor19** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:59 pm

Old Man Game wrote:
jake_swivel wrote:Fluff piece about the thunder potentially making the playoffs:

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2019/7/19/20699835/oklahoma-city-thunder-chris-paul-shai-gilgeous-alexander-playoffs

I don't think the team will make the playoffs but I could see them winning enough games to be feisty and fun for sure.

Yes this team could be fun, they are fast and young, I dont think we are doing the playoff, (lac, lal, rockets, jazz, denver, gsw,spurs, portland and dallas are better) especially if we trade cp3 and gallo we are not going to the playoff, we should be looking at our young guys and who we are going to draft , if we keep Adams and have SGA we got a pg and a center, ferguson, diallo can stay , do we draft position of need or best player available ?

Post #174 » by **ThunderBolt** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:16 pm

thor19 wrote:
Old Man Game wrote:
jake_swivel wrote:Fluff piece about the thunder potentially making the playoffs:

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2019/7/19/20699835/oklahoma-city-thunder-chris-paul-shai-gilgeous-alexander-playoffs

I don't think the team will make the playoffs but I could see them winning enough games to be feisty and fun for sure.

Yes this team could be fun, they are fast and young, I dont think we are doing the playoff, (lac, lal, rockets, jazz, denver, gsw,spurs, portland and dallas are better) especially if we trade cp3 and gallo we are not going to the playoff, we should be looking at our young guys and who we are going to draft , if we keep Adams and have SGA we got a pg and a center, ferguson, diallo can stay , do we draft position of need or best player available ?

BPA. Always.

spearsy23 · Post #175 » by **spearsy23** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:22 pm

You guys realize the bench is most likely Schroder/Hami/Nader/Patterson/Noel right?

Post #176 » by **slick_watts** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:47 pm

spearsy23 wrote:You guys realize the bench is most likely Schroder/Hami/Nader/Patterson/Noel right?

muscala. patterson is out.

Post #177 » by **ThunderBolt** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:58 pm

spearsy23 wrote:You guys realize the bench is most likely Schroder/Hami/Nader/Patterson/Noel right?

I wasn’t kidding when i said this is diallos team now.

spearsy23 · Post #178 » by **spearsy23** » Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:07 am

slick_watts wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:You guys realize the bench is most likely Schroder/Hami/Nader/Patterson/Noel right?

muscala. patterson is out.

Give him three months under Donovan and we won't know the difference.

Post #179 » by **Dadouv47** » Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:20 am

How many players do you expect we still trade before the trade deadline? Lot's of ''if'' but it depends a lot on CP3, Gallinari, Roberson's health (and how they play); if 2pat can stop sucking (not sure about this) and maybe if a team is willing to gamble with Schroeder or another one overpaying for Adams.
I think we will probably trade 2 or 3 players at best. Adams is the most likely to stay in my opinion.
Gallo is priority number one since he's our most valuable asset.

Kizz Fastfists · Post #180 » by **Kizz Fastfists** » Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:43 am

Dadouv47 wrote:Gallo is priority number one since he's our most valuable asset.

That is the most illogical statement I have read from you yet. He is the most valuable asset so you field offers and play them against each other. He is the lowest priority because teams will come calling for him. Finding someone willing to take Schroder without multiple first round picks attached would be the top priority, although that is likely impossible.