Jason Tatum: I'm going to average over 20, make the All Star team, and the Celtics are going to the finals

ITYSL · Post #101 » by **ITYSL** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:49 pm

Prokorov wrote:how about try and be humble and say you are just going to work hard and try to win as a team.

"I'm an actual genius when it comes to this game."

Prokorov · Post #102 » by **Prokorov** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:50 pm

CoP wrote:
Prokorov wrote:how about try and be humble and say you are just going to work hard and try to win as a team.

"I'm an actual genius when it comes to this game."

-All NBA veteran player with a championship ring

ITYSL · Post #103 » by **ITYSL** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:51 pm

Definitely a bold statement by Tatum, but I'd rather he have lofty goals like that than just say something about his videogame rating and that's it. All those goals he listed are possible to varying difficulty.

ATRAIN53 · Post #104 » by **ATRAIN53** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:54 pm

I can see it.

would also have accepted the 'Why can't I be MVP speech?'
but i like that he's thinking more team goals instead.

Kemba is there to play team ball, he got his $$ and deal and has seen very little of the playoffs.
He signed there to play with the J Team and that is gonna be a lot of fun to watch this year.

and that declaration had to give Bill Simmons a major boner.

Having a legit Philly / BOS rivalry again is so awesome for the NBA.
Turncoat Horford is gonna be a great subplot to all this IF he stays healthy.

Darth Celtic · Post #105 » by **Darth Celtic** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:57 pm

CoP wrote:
Prokorov wrote:how about try and be humble and say you are just going to work hard and try to win as a team.

"I'm an actual genius when it comes to this game."

Don't bother with this guy. Just 2 days ago he questioned if the Celtics or Hawks would have a better record. Then took a bet that the Nets minus KD this year will have more than 10 wins more than the Celtics.

Black Mage · Post #106 » by **Black Mage** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:57 pm

ClipsFanSince98 wrote:

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

He's talking to Ronny 2K and says he will end up with a 90 rating by end of year and then says all of these things he thinks will happen.

I definitely see him being able to do this.... in 2K.

clyde21 · Post #107 » by **clyde21** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:06 pm

Gooner wrote:I wonder how Kemba feels about that.

feels about what? finally being on a team that can compete and talk about being in the finals? :-?

ITYSL · Post #108 » by **ITYSL** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:08 pm

Prokorov wrote:
CoP wrote:
Prokorov wrote:how about try and be humble and say you are just going to work hard and try to win as a team.

"I'm an actual genius when it comes to this game."

-All NBA veteran player with a championship ring

Prokorov wrote:how about try and be humble and say you are just going to work hard and try to win as a team.

Najee12 · Post #109 » by **Najee12** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:09 pm

Prokorov wrote:This is spot on. All this Rhetoric about Kyrie being an awful leader and not being able to go anywhere as a teams #1... Yet in the most dsyfunctional mess of a season in which kyrie "couldnt lead them anywhere" Kyrie got furhter this year (second round) then Kemba has ever gotten.

I understand that Kemba may be a breath of fresh air, but this idea he is some great leader when he has had a losing record in 5 of his 8 seasons and never advanced a round in the playoffs tell another story

The Charlotte Hornets have had players such as Nicolas Batum, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Marvin Williams and Cody Zeller play prominent roles the past few years. None of these guys are more than fourth- to eighth-man type players. Jeremy Lamb was the second best player on the Hornets this past season, for goodness sake. Nothing short of an elite player (prime LeBron James) could have dragged that team into the playoffs.

Comparing Kemba Walker's teammates in Charlotte to Kyrie Irving's teammates the past three years is a joke. Irving has Jaylen Brown, Al Horford and Jayson Tatum as teammates for the past two seasons in Boston, and had James and Kevin Love in Cleveland. Who do you think had better talent around him -- Walker or Irving? Do you think teammates don't matter when evaluating team success in a team sport such as basketball?

Walker is not a leader in the concept of a rallying cry player, but a more flexible contributory player. What he should provide Boston is a productive player who will accept playing a lesser role if/when Tatum develops. Tatum and Irving were competing with each other for shots and attention on who will emerge as the top player for a contender.

Prokorov · Post #110 » by **Prokorov** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:11 pm

Najee12 wrote:
Prokorov wrote:This is spot on. All this Rhetoric about Kyrie being an awful leader and not being able to go anywhere as a teams #1... Yet in the most dsyfunctional mess of a season in which kyrie "couldnt lead them anywhere" Kyrie got furhter this year (second round) then Kemba has ever gotten.

I understand that Kemba may be a breath of fresh air, but this idea he is some great leader when he has had a losing record in 5 of his 8 seasons and never advanced a round in the playoffs tell another story

The Charlotte Hornets have had players such as Nicolas Batum, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Marvin Williams and Cody Zeller play prominent roles the past few years. None of these guys are more than fourth- to eighth-man type players. Jeremy Lamb was the second best player on the Hornets this past season, for goodness sake. Nothing short of an elite player (prime LeBron James) could have dragged that team into the playoffs.

Comparing Kemba Walker's teammates in Charlotte to Kyrie Irving's teammates the past three years is a joke. Irving has Jaylen Brown, Al Horford and Jayson Tatum as teammates for the past two seasons in Boston, and had James and Kevin Love in Cleveland. Who do you think had better talent around him -- Walker or Irving? Do you think teammates don't matter when evaluating team success in a team sport such as basketball?

Walker is not a leader in the concept of a rallying cry player, but a more flexible contributory player. What he should provide Boston is a productive player who will accept playing a lesser role if/when Tatum develops. Tatum and Irving were competing with each other for shots and attention on will emerge as the top player for a contender.

I'm not saying Kemba neded to win a ring in Charlotte, but to call him a winner and leader when he missed the playoffs 6 of 8 years in the east is simply lazy analysis.

3toheadmelo · Post #111 » by **3toheadmelo** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:11 pm

I still think he will be one of the best scorers in the league eventually. Love his game

CP War Hawks · Post #112 » by **CP War Hawks** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:15 pm

2k rating > all nba team

Don Ford · Post #113 » by **Don Ford** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:21 pm

I don't agree with him but it's a good thing that he has confidence in himself and his team

Najee12 · Post #114 » by **Najee12** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:23 pm

Prokorov wrote:I'm not saying Kemba neded to win a ring in Charlotte, but to call him a winner and leader when he missed the playoffs 6 of 8 years in the east is simply lazy analysis.

What you can say is Kemba Walker has been a quality player the past few years on teams with below-average talent surrounding him, which is more than fair. Those Hornets teams would not have made the playoffs if Kyrie Irving was on the team -- the surrounding talent was that bad. Holding Walker at fault for a team where his best teammate would have been a bench player for most playoff-level teams is being a bit unreasonable.

freethedevil · Post #115 » by **freethedevil** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:08 pm

beeshma wrote:I think it’s messed up that his motivation ends with a stupid video game.

I think it's hilarious people think this **** matters. Motivation can comes from many forms. It's not about how u get there, it's about what you do.

Prokorov · Post #116 » by **Prokorov** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:28 pm

freethedevil wrote:
beeshma wrote:I think it’s messed up that his motivation ends with a stupid video game.

I think it's hilarious people think this **** matters. Motivation can comes from many forms. It's not about how u get there, it's about what you do.

its a bigger issue when your team already has major issue with ego... if there was ever a team that needed to get its guys together and have them all give a patriots/spurs like "its all about the team" "im just focused on getting better every day" "im not worried about me, its about the team" responses it was this celtics team.

Shock Defeat · Post #117 » by **Shock Defeat** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:31 pm

Did Tatum not learn his lesson from Jaylen Brown guaranteeing a finals appearance last season? How'd that work out for him?

Prokorov · Post #118 » by **Prokorov** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:33 pm

Najee12 wrote:
Prokorov wrote:I'm not saying Kemba neded to win a ring in Charlotte, but to call him a winner and leader when he missed the playoffs 6 of 8 years in the east is simply lazy analysis.

What you can say is Kemba Walker has been a quality player the past few years on teams with below-average talent surrounding him, which is more than fair. Those Hornets teams would not have made the playoffs if Kyrie Irving was on the team -- the surrounding talent was that bad. Holding Walker at fault for a team where his best teammate would have been a bench player for most playoff-level teams is being a bit unreasonable.

We dont know if they would have made it with kyrie or not... they were 2-4 games out an Kyrie is the better player and proven he can be the best player on a playoff team. Kyrie probably is the difference between those hornets teams making and missing the playoffs.

we do know that Kemba didnt get it done.

people are talking about kemba like he is some great leader and proven winner. its not the case. he also creates an even bigger issue with not enough shots to go around.

Stevens needs to step up this year, but the leader of that boston team, and dictate to his players not the other way around. Ainge giving his guys some assurance and not having them all 1 foot out the door would help too.

An Unbiased Fan · Post #119 » by **An Unbiased Fan** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:38 pm

Tatum at best is around prime Steve SMith's level

Stillwater · Post #120 » by **Stillwater** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:42 pm

OK JT lets see you back that up... lol
Who cares, I mean he probably is going to get high usage if his shots are falling so to say that is not that unreasonable.
However he still shouldn't be puffing his chest after such a terrible soph season in comparison to what he himself believed last summer.