Celtics General Offseason Thread Pt 11: Kanter believe you thought of former player

[MagicBagley18]

It’s good to see Tatum putting more emphasis on getting to the rim and trying to draw fouls and it’s good he’s starting relatively early in his career but we need to have patience. The art of drawing fouls is a skill that doesn’t just come naturally but is developed and it should take a few seasons to be really mastered.

It’s good to see him addresss this however and hopefully we can see some of those terrible melo esque shots slowly disappear from his game -at least as frequently.

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[Parliament10]

Is the new Twitter freaking anybody else out?

[Bill Lumbergh]

Is the new Twitter freaking anybody else out?

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[Parliament10]

Is the new Twitter freaking anybody else out?

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Thanks. I'm gonna play with it for awhile.
See how it works out.

There's not much news coming through now, anyway.

[djFan71]

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They should have a “get off my lawn” button that does this.

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Who am I kidding, the only time I use Twitter is when you guys post stuff and I click it accidentally while I’m trying to scroll on my phone.

[FlatearthZorro]

I saw some nonsense about Gallinari. Stop or you gonna summon skywalker. Thats first and 2nd the guy is playing 50 games the past 3 seasons. If Griffin is fragile, that guy plays less than him. He's a big no no..

[Big Joke Line]

Love his summer notes, he did it the last year or two. Hope the FO is right on Brown - still worried about the Kemba/Brown/Hayward/Tatum fit offensively - could see Brown becoming the OKC Harden sixth man.. but not sure taking out Rozier and Morris eases the crunch enough - do Kemba or Hayward want to average under 20 points a game? Hayward has facilitating ability if he's healthy, Kemba can play off the ball, but - still something to watch with cautious optimism.

Yea it is somewhat of a logjam again with Brown/Tatum/Gordon/Langford/Smart/Edwards/Semi that's a lots of guys. But if JB can be a 3 and D type of wing and attack the rim in transition that'd be perfect. Hoping Tatum goes to the basket a lot, I think Hayward will regardless. We need to be more of an attacking team, Brad's "Mike D'Antoni" offense from last year wasn't all that fun to watch, tbh. We should still take the 3s when they are open, but more penetration and more stuff going to the basket.

Right, except ideally this would be the year Brown graduates from the Jeff Green role to creating more offense for himself.

It’s good to hear usage for both guys will go up - if the ball moves better and maybe Hayward and Walker give up a couple of shot attempts, the offense could be really effective. But I don’t care about usage for Brown/Tatum, I care about increased production and efficiency..

The only improvement I care about from Tatum this year is in how much he wants it. If his intensity level doesn’t shoot through the roof he’ll never be a great player and IMO they might as well trade him since he’ll have the most value.

[Big Joke Line]

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lmao, Kyrie won't be able to duck this if it happens in Boston.

That'd be great, but I would bet a lot of money on it being in BKN. I really doubt the league wants to broadcast a chorus of boos and profanity on national tv on Xmas.

In my experience, there would be more Celtics fans there than Brooklyn fans. I would think this will be especially so at Xmas (NYers get outta town during any holiday). Maybe people will come out of the woodwork now they've got KD and Kyrie.

In my 15 years living and working in NYC I’ve literally met one person who I’d consider a true Nets fan. And he’s from NJ and also a Cowboys and Red Sox fan so consider THAT source.

[sam_I_am]

That'd be great, but I would bet a lot of money on it being in BKN. I really doubt the league wants to broadcast a chorus of boos and profanity on national tv on Xmas.

In my experience, there would be more Celtics fans there than Brooklyn fans. I would think this will be especially so at Xmas (NYers get outta town during any holiday). Maybe people will come out of the woodwork now they've got KD and Kyrie.

In my 15 years living and working in NYC I’ve literally met one person who I’d consider a true Nets fan. And he’s from NJ and also a Cowboys and Red Sox fan so consider THAT source.

In 1986 there were a lot of Mets fans. Where did they go? There will be a lot of poser Nets fans talking trash next year hoping to compensate for their deep hurt about the state of the Knicks.

[sam_I_am]

Yea it is somewhat of a logjam again with Brown/Tatum/Gordon/Langford/Smart/Edwards/Semi that's a lots of guys. But if JB can be a 3 and D type of wing and attack the rim in transition that'd be perfect. Hoping Tatum goes to the basket a lot, I think Hayward will regardless. We need to be more of an attacking team, Brad's "Mike D'Antoni" offense from last year wasn't all that fun to watch, tbh. We should still take the 3s when they are open, but more penetration and more stuff going to the basket.

Right, except ideally this would be the year Brown graduates from the Jeff Green role to creating more offense for himself.

It’s good to hear usage for both guys will go up - if the ball moves better and maybe Hayward and Walker give up a couple of shot attempts, the offense could be really effective. But I don’t care about usage for Brown/Tatum, I care about increased production and efficiency..

The only improvement I care about from Tatum this year is in how much he wants it. If his intensity level doesn’t shoot through the roof he’ll never be a great player and IMO they might as well trade him since he’ll have the most value.

I also want to see him shoot 3’s with the confidence Carsen Edwards showed in SL. The dude shot 43% as a rookie. If it’s their just let it fly!

[Andrew McCeltic]

Yea it is somewhat of a logjam again with Brown/Tatum/Gordon/Langford/Smart/Edwards/Semi that's a lots of guys. But if JB can be a 3 and D type of wing and attack the rim in transition that'd be perfect. Hoping Tatum goes to the basket a lot, I think Hayward will regardless. We need to be more of an attacking team, Brad's "Mike D'Antoni" offense from last year wasn't all that fun to watch, tbh. We should still take the 3s when they are open, but more penetration and more stuff going to the basket.

Right, except ideally this would be the year Brown graduates from the Jeff Green role to creating more offense for himself.

It’s good to hear usage for both guys will go up - if the ball moves better and maybe Hayward and Walker give up a couple of shot attempts, the offense could be really effective. But I don’t care about usage for Brown/Tatum, I care about increased production and efficiency..

The only improvement I care about from Tatum this year is in how much he wants it. If his intensity level doesn’t shoot through the roof he’ll never be a great player and IMO they might as well trade him since he’ll have the most value.

He just needs to get stronger. If he’s got “intensity” (seems like he has it already) but he can’t finish through contact, it doesn’t matter how much he wants it. And avoiding the paint is going to put a lid on his midrange and perimeter game.

[Elrod is Back]

Right, except ideally this would be the year Brown graduates from the Jeff Green role to creating more offense for himself.

It’s good to hear usage for both guys will go up - if the ball moves better and maybe Hayward and Walker give up a couple of shot attempts, the offense could be really effective. But I don’t care about usage for Brown/Tatum, I care about increased production and efficiency..

The only improvement I care about from Tatum this year is in how much he wants it. If his intensity level doesn’t shoot through the roof he’ll never be a great player and IMO they might as well trade him since he’ll have the most value.

I also want to see him shoot 3’s with the confidence Carsen Edwards showed in SL. The dude shot 43% as a rookie. If it’s their just let it fly!

Sounds like Hanlon is pushing Tatum to go full Antoine, and jack up eight 3s per game. If he makes over 40 percent that is well worth it.

[sam_I_am]

Putting NBA player salaries into perspective, Forbes list of richest franchises came out. Celtics are 22nd valued at 2.8 billion. Value increased 12% this year or 336 million which is 3 times salary cap. The Knicks are worth 4 billion - 1.2 billion more than Celtics.

[SmartWentCrazy]

We're not trading Hayward. Get used to it. He's Stevens boy and Ainges Cub Scout. Besides Kemba, he's the only other big free agent signing on the roster. Despite what many (even Cs fans on this board) believe, Danny had worked hard to make Boston a "free agent destination". Dumping and quiting on Hayward to a mediocre situation would be " un gentlemen" of Ainge. Hayward rides out his contract here and then anything can happen.

If Hayward was to be moved, it would have happened by now.

This isnt remotely true.

Pretty sure Hayward is still on the roster so I got to be smelling something...

Look, I don't know and neither does anyone else on this board. It's just all opinion....but I feel strongly that Danny could have pulled the ripcord for a rebuild but didnt.

Hayward ensures Kemba isn't just relying on young players and adds veteran maturity that that 2nd grader in Brooklyn didn't know anything about.

We may very well be here long term, but his current presence on the roster isnt proof of that— 2 years ago we didnt have Kyrie at this time. 12 years ago we didnt have KG at this time. Things change quick in the NBA and if Ainge could make a move that he felt would make us better long term at the expense of Hayward, he’d do it.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Here’s a question: leaving out superstar players or packages with Hayward - like, Hayward/Brown/Williams for Towns - what would be good Hayward trades? The only “star” swap that could work would be for Bradley Beal, with Gordon to a third team. Otherwise, think packages where you’re getting back more than one player/asset..

[Darth Celtic]

Here’s a question: leaving out superstar players or packages with Hayward - like, Hayward/Brown/Williams for Towns - what would be good Hayward trades? The only “star” swap that could work would be for Bradley Beal, with Gordon to a third team. Otherwise, think packages where you’re getting back more than one player/asset..

well, he's not being traded unless he shows to be terrible all year again and would be used as dead salary in a trade at the deadline along with a ton of assets.

Brad/Danny won't trade him unless this was the case.

[Darth Celtic]

Putting NBA player salaries into perspective, Forbes list of richest franchises came out. Celtics are 22nd valued at 2.8 billion. Value increased 12% this year or 336 million which is 3 times salary cap. The Knicks are worth 4 billion - 1.2 billion more than Celtics.

Highest valued NBA franchise will never make the finals. Or at least not in the next 10 years. How sad is that.

[sam_I_am]

The only improvement I care about from Tatum this year is in how much he wants it. If his intensity level doesn’t shoot through the roof he’ll never be a great player and IMO they might as well trade him since he’ll have the most value.

I also want to see him shoot 3’s with the confidence Carsen Edwards showed in SL. The dude shot 43% as a rookie. If it’s their just let it fly!

Sounds like Hanlon is pushing Tatum to go full Antoine, and jack up eight 3s per game. If he makes over 40 percent that is well worth it.

His shot is like butter. Antoine’s was ugly. So many times last 2 seasons when Jason catches in position and wide open....he fakes and either passes or drives only to end with a fading 2 point jumper. He can be a 45% 3 point shooter ....he should punish defenses that dare to let him be open like that. I don’t want him chucking....I just want him to be ready the way Klay and Curry always are.