payitforward wrote:Last year, Clint Capela put up 20 points every 40 minutes at a TS% clip of 65.8%, while grabbing over 15 rebounds & turning it over @1.7 times. You don't think he helped win a lot of games? You think there's some angle from which you can make those numbers irrelevant? You don't think he was a valuable player? Sorry, you're the one losing your mind.
Of course he's a valuable player. He's also way better than Thomas Bryant. The point I was trying to make is that the idealized version of Thomas Bryant isn't even that valuable in 2019 NBA.
Way better? What would make you think so? But, wait... of course Capela is better now! He's played 5 times the minutes Bryant has played. But, he wasn't "way" better.
It's interesting how similar their histories are: Both Capela & Bryant were drafted too low for how good they are. Both of them entered the league at 20 years old. They played 90 & 72 minutes respectively as rookies.
They each played just under 1500 minutes their 2d year & were both already quite good. But Capela's 2d year was not nearly as productive as Bryant's. Mainly because of his one real flaw: he is terrible from the FT line. & he gets there a lot, so it makes a difference.
Which leads to a key point -- despite similar histories they are very different players (which suffices to make your using Capela to prove anything about Bryant fairly ridiculous). Bryant is an excellent FT shooter & already shoots the 3 at a respectable level, which we should certainly expect to improve.
gtn130 wrote:...Wizards fans appear to be so broken by Ernie Grunfeld that any vaguely positive transaction on the fringes is turned into a franchise-altering move. TB was a great acquisition for being a D-Leaguer. Terrific move. One of EG's best. Unfortunately he doesn't really matter because he's not that good. He's fine and is definitely an NBA player, but he shouldn't be starting for any playoff team....
This is just really foolish nonsense. For starters, it seems to have been Tommy Sheppard's acquisition not Ernie's. But, above all, how anyone can say that a guy who put up numbers like Bryant's at 21 years old is "not that good," I don't know.
Are you saying that he won't put up those kind of numbers (or better) again? As a 22-year old? Last season was a fluke? I guess that could be.... but how would you know?
Or are you really trying to maintain that scoring 20+ points per 40 minutes at a 67.4% TS% while bagging a lot of defensive rebounds, a lot of offensive rebounds, and being well above average in everything else you do (at 21 years old mind you!) really isn't anything particularly special?
Is that what you're saying? Because, if it is, well... sorry: you have no idea what you're talking about!
gtn130 wrote:...3 years / $25 million. This was not a robust market for a 21 year old free agent center.
Uh huh. A R2 pick Center plays 1500 minutes & gets signed to a guaranteed $8m+ a year for 3 years. What's the big deal about that?
Tell you what -- why don't you find me another example of something on that order? Only... you can't, can you?
Pay no attention to the remarks above. Or, per Ruzious: "PIF, ...the best part of your posts is your tagline."