RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#10 2019-20

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RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#10 2019-20

Poll ended at Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:02 am

Kevin Durant (BKN)
26
14%
Damian Lillard (POR)
98
54%
Rudy Gobert (UTA)
14
8%
Jimmy Butler (MIA)
17
9%
Russell Westbrook (HOU)
11
6%
Kyrie Irving (BKN)
3
2%
Draymond Green (GSW)
6
3%
Karl-Anthony Towns (MIN)
5
3%
Bradley Beal (WAS)
1
1%
Kemba Walker (BOS)
1
1%
 
Total votes: 182

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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#10 2019-20 

Post#61 » by Metallikid » Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:24 am

THE J0KER wrote:
Metallikid wrote:Wow it looks like Kevin Durant is getting a groundswell.

Can we just all agree to put him 11th? I'll vote for him if everyone else does.

Let's be realistic, 2019-20 worlds best Wheelchair Basketball player still will not be enough good to be even WNBA #11, especially not NBA #11.


I'm just being pragmatic. OP said he doesn't want to remove him at this point so that only leaves voting for him and getting it over with so he doesn't suck 20-30 votes away from other candidates for the next ten or more polls. If we vote for him now then maybe OP will even make a bonus 26th poll so we can all pretend he wasn't #11.

Work with me here.

Everyone vote Kevin Durant on the next poll so we can get him off this thing already.
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#10 2019-20 

Post#62 » by THE J0KER » Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:35 am

Metallikid wrote:
THE J0KER wrote:
Metallikid wrote:Wow it looks like Kevin Durant is getting a groundswell.

Can we just all agree to put him 11th? I'll vote for him if everyone else does.

Let's be realistic, 2019-20 worlds best Wheelchair Basketball player still will not be enough good to be even WNBA #11, especially not NBA #11.


I'm just being pragmatic. OP said he doesn't want to remove him at this point so that only leaves voting for him and getting it over with so he doesn't suck 20-30 votes away from other candidates for the next ten or more polls. If we vote for him now then maybe OP will even make a bonus 26th poll so we can all pretend he wasn't #11.

Work with me here.

Everyone vote Kevin Durant on the next poll so we can get him off this thing already.

From my point of the view, there is more sense to vote for KD as TOP5, focused on his talent and potential only, than now, out of TOP10, which is embarrassing for 2nd best player of this decade. I was against him being part of this poll since start, but removing him from it have more reasons now than before.
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#10 2019-20 

Post#63 » by Hroz » Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:01 pm

Nominate Blake Griffin
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#10 2019-20 

Post#64 » by ReaLiez » Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:40 pm

Voted Jimmy but Dame is equally a good pick.
If Durant is on there so should John Wall right....wrong they both should be off the list
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#10 2019-20 

Post#65 » by Zerostatic » Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:48 pm

I wish this poll continued all the way through the top 50 or even 100 players. It would make for some interesting debates.
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#10 2019-20 

Post#66 » by a_sensei » Sat Jul 27, 2019 4:28 pm

Vote Lillard
Nominate Ben Simmons
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#10 2019-20 

Post#67 » by lakerz12 » Sat Jul 27, 2019 6:42 pm

Metallikid wrote:
THE J0KER wrote:
Metallikid wrote:Wow it looks like Kevin Durant is getting a groundswell.

Can we just all agree to put him 11th? I'll vote for him if everyone else does.

Let's be realistic, 2019-20 worlds best Wheelchair Basketball player still will not be enough good to be even WNBA #11, especially not NBA #11.


I'm just being pragmatic. OP said he doesn't want to remove him at this point so that only leaves voting for him and getting it over with so he doesn't suck 20-30 votes away from other candidates for the next ten or more polls. If we vote for him now then maybe OP will even make a bonus 26th poll so we can all pretend he wasn't #11.

Work with me here.

Everyone vote Kevin Durant on the next poll so we can get him off this thing already.


I don't think the winners so far would be any different if Durant were off the poll. None have been that close.

I just wish it were specified if we are voting for just this upcoming season or a longer time period.
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#10 2019-20 

Post#68 » by iggymcfrack » Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:44 pm

lakerz12 wrote:
Metallikid wrote:
THE J0KER wrote:Let's be realistic, 2019-20 worlds best Wheelchair Basketball player still will not be enough good to be even WNBA #11, especially not NBA #11.


I'm just being pragmatic. OP said he doesn't want to remove him at this point so that only leaves voting for him and getting it over with so he doesn't suck 20-30 votes away from other candidates for the next ten or more polls. If we vote for him now then maybe OP will even make a bonus 26th poll so we can all pretend he wasn't #11.

Work with me here.

Everyone vote Kevin Durant on the next poll so we can get him off this thing already.


I don't think the winners so far would be any different if Durant were off the poll. None have been that close.

I just wish it were specified if we are voting for just this upcoming season or a longer time period.


It’s obviously for the upcoming season. It says 2019-20 right in the title. If it were going forward, then Luka should be voted in by now instead of not even nominated.
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Post#69 » by jjscap » Sun Jul 28, 2019 12:17 am

Lillard of course.
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Post#70 » by Colbinii » Sun Jul 28, 2019 12:22 am

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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#10 2019-20 

Post#71 » by lakerz12 » Sun Jul 28, 2019 12:30 am

iggymcfrack wrote:
lakerz12 wrote:
Metallikid wrote:
I'm just being pragmatic. OP said he doesn't want to remove him at this point so that only leaves voting for him and getting it over with so he doesn't suck 20-30 votes away from other candidates for the next ten or more polls. If we vote for him now then maybe OP will even make a bonus 26th poll so we can all pretend he wasn't #11.

Work with me here.

Everyone vote Kevin Durant on the next poll so we can get him off this thing already.


I don't think the winners so far would be any different if Durant were off the poll. None have been that close.

I just wish it were specified if we are voting for just this upcoming season or a longer time period.


It’s obviously for the upcoming season. It says 2019-20 right in the title. If it were going forward, then Luka should be voted in by now instead of not even nominated.


Disagree. Someone could vote Durant based on the fact that in 2019-2020 they still consider him a top 10 player even if he's not playing.

So they are voting based on an abstract, intrinsic value basis and not just on a 2019-2020 season performance basis.

If OP specifically said this was based exclusively on 2019-2020 season PRODUCTION---no one would vote Durant.

And yet people are voting Durant because ambiguity still exists in the poll question.
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#10 2019-20 

Post#72 » by Metallikid » Sun Jul 28, 2019 12:38 am

lakerz12 wrote:
iggymcfrack wrote:
lakerz12 wrote:
I don't think the winners so far would be any different if Durant were off the poll. None have been that close.

I just wish it were specified if we are voting for just this upcoming season or a longer time period.


It’s obviously for the upcoming season. It says 2019-20 right in the title. If it were going forward, then Luka should be voted in by now instead of not even nominated.


Disagree. Someone could vote Durant based on the fact that in 2019-2020 they still consider him a top 10 player even if he's not playing.

So they are voting based on an abstract, intrinsic value basis and not just on a 2019-2020 season performance basis.

If OP specifically said this was based exclusively on 2019-2020 season PRODUCTION---no one would vote Durant.

And yet people are voting Durant because ambiguity still exists in the poll question.


OP was very clear. People interpret things how they like or don't read it at all and just vote.
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#10 2019-20 

Post#73 » by lakerz12 » Sun Jul 28, 2019 12:45 am

Metallikid wrote:
lakerz12 wrote:
iggymcfrack wrote:
It’s obviously for the upcoming season. It says 2019-20 right in the title. If it were going forward, then Luka should be voted in by now instead of not even nominated.


Disagree. Someone could vote Durant based on the fact that in 2019-2020 they still consider him a top 10 player even if he's not playing.

So they are voting based on an abstract, intrinsic value basis and not just on a 2019-2020 season performance basis.

If OP specifically said this was based exclusively on 2019-2020 season PRODUCTION---no one would vote Durant.

And yet people are voting Durant because ambiguity still exists in the poll question.


OP was very clear. People interpret things how they like or don't read it at all and just vote.


Clear about what? Quote to me what you are referring to...
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#10 2019-20 

Post#74 » by HeatIn5 » Sun Jul 28, 2019 12:56 am

voted Dame

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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#10 2019-20 

Post#75 » by Metallikid » Sun Jul 28, 2019 1:10 am

lakerz12 wrote:
Metallikid wrote:
lakerz12 wrote:
Disagree. Someone could vote Durant based on the fact that in 2019-2020 they still consider him a top 10 player even if he's not playing.

So they are voting based on an abstract, intrinsic value basis and not just on a 2019-2020 season performance basis.

If OP specifically said this was based exclusively on 2019-2020 season PRODUCTION---no one would vote Durant.

And yet people are voting Durant because ambiguity still exists in the poll question.


OP was very clear. People interpret things how they like or don't read it at all and just vote.


Clear about what? Quote to me what you are referring to...


"-The criteria of ranking the players is YOUR OWN. The whole point of bringing this to the GB is to attract the widest amount of votes/perspectives on the game as possible to form a true consensus. Some people value shooting over defense, team success over indivdual prowess etc. I want to bake all that in to this poll set no matter how chaotic. "

There are two clear points. One is that OP doesn't set out a criteria. The second is that this is a season-specific poll, that's why it's in the title.

Many people have complained about Kevin Durant's inclusion, myself included and I just think we should collectively vote for KD at #11 and get him off the poll to end the ambiguity and votes that will be siphoned off of every remaining poll.

We can all change our votes. KD AT #11!
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#10 2019-20 

Post#76 » by lakerz12 » Sun Jul 28, 2019 1:17 am

Metallikid wrote:
lakerz12 wrote:
Metallikid wrote:
OP was very clear. People interpret things how they like or don't read it at all and just vote.


Clear about what? Quote to me what you are referring to...


"-The criteria of ranking the players is YOUR OWN. The whole point of bringing this to the GB is to attract the widest amount of votes/perspectives on the game as possible to form a true consensus. Some people value shooting over defense, team success over indivdual prowess etc. I want to bake all that in to this poll set no matter how chaotic. "

There are two clear points. One is that OP doesn't set out a criteria. The second is that this is a season-specific poll, that's why it's in the title.

Many people have complained about Kevin Durant's inclusion, myself included and I just think we should collectively vote for KD at #11 and get him off the poll to end the ambiguity and votes that will be siphoned off of every remaining poll.

We can all change our votes. KD AT #11!


What do you mean by season-specific? You mean votes should be based on this upcoming season production only?

I already explained above how putting the years in the title does not make that clear.

If it did, why did 24 people just vote for Durant? They can all see the year and yet still voted for him.

Also, if OP intended this to be specific to only this season's production, why did he put Durant in the first group of poll options!? LOL
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Post#77 » by deadfeather » Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:53 pm

Jrue, CP3, Westbrook, Murray, Thompson, Conley, Mitchell and possibly even Fox and Booker are better guards than Lillard and that's just the WESTERN CONFERENCE! Everybody here is saying he is the third best guard in the NBA? This is insane. The dude plays negative defense and chucks 30 footers like he's channeling Antoine Walker. Everybody has already forgotten how he got swept by the Pelicans season before last?

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