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WOJ: Julius Randle 3/63M (Team Option)

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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle 3/63M (Team Option) 

Post#561 » by BKlutch » Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:25 pm

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god shammgod wrote:kp was an elite help defender but as a one on one defender he wasn't very good at all. he would get bullied by big guys down low and he was always slow to contest shooters on the perimeter.


Exactly. You still need to compensate for him getting abused on the perimeter.

When you talk about blocks and help defense it does make sense to compare him to Mitch, because Mitch has range defensively while playing center so he's not getting beat very often. KP was sometimes a turnstile up top.

TBH, some of KP's help D blocks are recovery blocks after getting beaten which is not as impressive as Mitch's blocks which have crazy natural skill. KP is basically tall so he should get some of those blocks. Mitch gets blocks KP will never get. Ever.

Not sure why anyone really needs to compare Randle to KP, but I posted the stats already that shows Randle has ALWAYS been around a top 20 rebounder while giving up close to half a foot to KP whose peak was # 35.

and Randle has close to triple the assists of KP so he actually projects to be a more fluid piece in any offensive scheme whereas the ball stuck to KP once he got it. He rarely passes and as a result he takes more bad shots.

You can't compare Randle to KP. Randle is stronger and faster. He is exactly as you said: more fluid. Randle dominated KP in that video of the LA game and I believe many forwards could do that. If KP doesn't make a big leap this year, the Mavs didn't get the prize they were seeking.

Edited to add: Also, KP did stop the ball so much that some folks compared him to Melo. That was very troubling and made me think about possibly trading him before he was injured. Mitch holds the ball less than any big we've had.
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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle 3/63M (Team Option) 

Post#562 » by Jay10 » Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:30 pm

Randle and Mitchell should run pick and rolls on every play. :lol:
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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle 3/63M (Team Option) 

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Post#564 » by Jay10 » Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:43 pm

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Post#565 » by Juco24 » Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:51 pm

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This is the game Scott and Steve always reference when talking about how unathletic we were.


Damn that's hard to watch as a Knicks fan. HORRIBLE play. And who said KP was a good defender
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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle 3/63M (Team Option) 

Post#566 » by iLLmatic860 » Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:59 pm

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This is the game Scott and Steve always reference when talking about how unathletic we were.


Damn that's hard to watch as a Knicks fan. HORRIBLE play. And who said KP was a good defender

Max Kellerman said KP is one of the best defenders hes ever seen lmao
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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle 3/63M (Team Option) 

Post#567 » by Juco24 » Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:10 pm

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BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:This is the game Scott and Steve always reference when talking about how unathletic we were.


Damn that's hard to watch as a Knicks fan. HORRIBLE play. And who said KP was a good defender

Max Kellerman said KP is one of the best defenders hes ever seen lmao

That mofo best go get Fred Sanford glasses
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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle 3/63M (Team Option) 

Post#568 » by iLLmatic860 » Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:31 pm

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DaT WaVeY RiCaN wrote:
Juco24 wrote:
Damn that's hard to watch as a Knicks fan. HORRIBLE play. And who said KP was a good defender

Max Kellerman said KP is one of the best defenders hes ever seen lmao

That mofo best go get Fred Sanford glasses

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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle 3/63M (Team Option) 

Post#569 » by Juco24 » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:10 pm

DaT WaVeY RiCaN wrote:
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DaT WaVeY RiCaN wrote:Max Kellerman said KP is one of the best defenders hes ever seen lmao

That mofo best go get Fred Sanford glasses

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Obviously he didn't watch the video. Lol
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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle 3/63M (Team Option) 

Post#570 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:30 pm

KP looks like the tallest shrimp in the NBA in that video (and it was his last season too)
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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle 3/63M (Team Option) 

Post#571 » by ChaosHamster » Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:05 pm

lol, absolutely dominated.. He had 27 points. I guess good defender never allows anyone to score more than 20 on himself? Or is it 15? :lol:

Same season, btw:



Randle 13/4.
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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle 3/63M (Team Option) 

Post#572 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:09 pm

ChaosHamster wrote:lol, absolutely dominated.. He had 27 points. I guess good defender never allows anyone to score more than 20 on himself? Or is it 15? :lol:

Same season, btw:



Randle 13/4.

This isn’t the Mavs board bro. You can defend KP there
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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle 3/63M (Team Option) 

Post#573 » by F N 11 » Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:21 pm



Doubling Randle in a summer game lol. Plus peep how he brings the ball up a lot.
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Post#574 » by Iron Mantis » Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:16 am

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Doubling Randle in a summer game lol. Plus peep how he brings the ball up a lot.

Zion actually looks good rocking that Bulls jersey.


Nice to see Randle reppin'.
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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle 3/63M (Team Option) 

Post#575 » by GONYK » Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:19 am

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Doubling Randle in a summer game lol. Plus peep how he brings the ball up a lot.

Zion actually looks good rocking that Bulls jersey.


Nice to see Randle reppin'.


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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle 3/63M (Team Option) 

Post#576 » by malik959 » Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:25 am

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Iron Mantis wrote:
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Doubling Randle in a summer game lol. Plus peep how he brings the ball up a lot.

Zion actually looks good rocking that Bulls jersey.


Nice to see Randle reppin'.


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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle 3/63M (Team Option) 

Post#577 » by TheGreenArrow » Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:37 am

Randles about to make that superstar leap folks.
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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle 3/63M (Team Option) 

Post#578 » by dakomish23 » Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:23 am

ChaosHamster wrote:lol, absolutely dominated.. He had 27 points. I guess good defender never allows anyone to score more than 20 on himself? Or is it 15? :lol:

Same season, btw:



Randle 13/4.


FOH with your logical retort and video proof backing your sound argument
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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle 3/63M (Team Option) 

Post#579 » by dakomish23 » Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:27 am

Jeff Van Gully wrote:all randle has to do is give a damn on defense for his contract to be a steal.


The 3rd year team option made it a steal

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Re: WOJ: Julius Randle 3/63M (Team Option) 

Post#580 » by dakomish23 » Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:36 am

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god shammgod wrote:kp was an elite help defender but as a one on one defender he wasn't very good at all. he would get bullied by big guys down low and he was always slow to contest shooters on the perimeter.

That's really not true though, he was pretty average at post defense after his rookie year, with opponents shooting 40% against him in post ups the year he got hurt, and 36% in isolation. Really the only places he struggled were in the PnR and against spot up shooters, which are both dependent on teammates, and given that he was statistically elite defending spot ups his rookie year to one of the worst in the league his 2nd and 3rd years, I tend to side on it being more of a scheme thing than a problem with him

But as a one on one defender, he was very good


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