Jedzz wrote:mplsfonz23 wrote:shrink wrote:I HATE the way ESPN and the league look at other teams as like farm clubs for their destination cities.
Towns could not have been MORE enthusiastic about the Wolves in his quote. They read that and say, “if MIN misses the playoffs this season, will Towns be unhappy, (implying “.. and demand a trade)?” Of course, that’s what their LA audience wants to hear.
Towns is starting the 1st year of a five year deal. Even if he BECAME unhappy, the Wolves would say, “sorry, we’re not trading you.”
Even when Towns says he’s happy here, they talk about trading him. What can he possibly say?
I like how they say he "Threw shade" on Thibs and Butler. (At least he didn't call ESPN for and interview.) If I were Thibs, I would be mad as hell at Butler for throwing his diva-ness around, but as I typed that, I think Thibs should be mad at himself. He had a good young core, kicked out all of Towns friends, brought in some old dudes, (one who thought it was HIS team,) and set us back a good 2-3 years.
That's what happens when you are in "win now" mode.
I'm sorry but I can't agree. Towns has never won anything yet. Towns will never win anything by himself. Choosing when to win is in the eye of the beholder. Towns is getting paid every day. His idea of when this team needs to truly start winning could be entirely different from the thoughts that you, me, or even the coach and owner's have. But it's not supposed to be his choice. (I don't even know what this means.)
If the owner and coaches felt they needed to start winning, it's on Towns to coexist best as possible with who they have at the time, whoever that is, and do everything they can to attempt to win together. There is no other acceptable truth if you ask me. I don't think he even got close to fully committing to that. Not even close to the commitment we saw from him as he chased the supermax this past season during meaningless games.
It takes a team of players and that team will undoubtedly need older Vets, middle vets, and young cheap players that can play. Even with a good mix, the players all have to commit to it. I didn't see 27 year old Leonard, 34 year old Marc Gasol, and youngins like 24 year old VanFleet and 24 year old Siakum struggling to all get on the same timeline together. Maybe it would have been harder for that team if Siakum and Van Fleet were both Maxed players and guys like Gasol and Leonard were brought in as middle of the road contract vets. Maybe that would have been enough to screw with the needed order of egos and power tripping bitches to stop Toronto from beating everyone.
With two young still developing minds and players getting the max deals, it wasn't ideal, yet Thibs brought in a workable mix of players to do it. We saw the Wolves leap to a top 4 in the west capable team and yet everyone saw how it never quite came together. Even in wins it was like they were struggling against themselves the whole time. It was all because of our young ignorant overpaid little ****. Everyone needs to sop blaming everyone else. We are stuck with them like this until they become more.
No need to apologize, it's a chat board.
I guess my thing was, you had good talent to work with. What has Thibs won? Butler? Rose? Taj? Deng? Etc....Nothing.
So why not bring them back and try again? No matter the cost because we want to win NOW!
Choosing to win? I think KAT gives it his all, (meaningless games or not.)
What should he have done? Coast because they are meaningless?
Players ALL have to commit? Is that how the season started?
Sure, that was all on Kat.
At that time, Thibs should have backed KAT 100%. But what did he do? Allowed that DIVA to screw with KAT and Wigs head, disrupt practice, call everyone SOFT (BTW now all teams now think KAT is soft) have a ME moment on ESPN, and demand a trade mid season.
Sorry, but at 22-23 that's kind of hard to handle coming from a vet...
I think the vet card can be overrated. Some vets only pretend to be helping. Jimmy sure didn't try with those two, because he was upset they got paid. (Something he would never do.) Hello Miami!!!!
Workable mix? Sounds like a country club of old Bulls to me.
Overpaid, I agree. But that's the price, and the way BBall is going now. It's ALL...ALL about getting paid. Sure they ALL want to win a ring, but that money is more important nowadays.