Around the Offseason, Take 2

[Juco24]

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I'm glad they signed him and I think they'll regret it. By year 3 they'll be looking to rid themselves of that contract. Just watch.... you read it here first. Lol

Green's game can age fairly well. The issue with him is how motivated will he be during the latter stages of this final big contract. He does have stretches where he kind of actually sucks because sometimes he is checked out and his style of play depends so much on court awareness and facilitation.

Agreed. I just know Siakam made him look undeserving of a max deal

[Clyde_Style]

I'm glad they signed him and I think they'll regret it. By year 3 they'll be looking to rid themselves of that contract. Just watch.... you read it here first. Lol

Green's game can age fairly well. The issue with him is how motivated will he be during the latter stages of this final big contract. He does have stretches where he kind of actually sucks because sometimes he is checked out and his style of play depends so much on court awareness and facilitation.

Agreed. I just know Siakam made him look undeserving of a max deal

Understood. I was trying to be charitable. I would hate him signing here for a $100M deal now. He thrived with Steph and Klay and I respect his accomplishments, but he has peaked and it is downhill from here

He can still contribute as long as he stays tuned in. If he gets lazy, he'll become a liability before his contract is done

[Juco24]

Green's game can age fairly well. The issue with him is how motivated will he be during the latter stages of this final big contract. He does have stretches where he kind of actually sucks because sometimes he is checked out and his style of play depends so much on court awareness and facilitation.

Agreed. I just know Siakam made him look undeserving of a max deal

Understood. I was trying to be charitable. I would hate him signing here for a $100M deal now. He thrived with Steph and Klay and I respect his accomplishments, but he has peaked and it is downhill from here

He can still contribute as long as he stays tuned in. If he gets lazy, he'll become a liability before his contract is done

Very well said and 100% agreed! And to your point my bet is that he'll become that liability by year 3.

[Oscirus]

Cheap as hell contract they legit lucked out. Some foolish team would've forced an overpay

[malik959]

You have Trae above Fox?

Absolutely and it isnt even close.

Trae,luka and zion are in a tier all by themselves.

Interesting take. Idk if I’d got here yet but I love both these guys so I could def see both being top 5 PGs in their primes.

Fox over Trae any day of the week, Fox is able to control the game from both sides of the floor.

[malik959]

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[DOLPHIN2020]

They could’ve even did

Dal vs NYK

kp would be injured by December, so no excitement in the game other than Luka

[Adelheid]

Cheap as hell contract they legit lucked out. Some foolish team would've forced an overpay

Dray is the heart and soul of the Warriors. 25 million per for the leadership, defense, veterancy, and running the offense from a frontcourt position may just be "appropriate". He is a low scoring player even though he runs the O and he is not a go-to-scorer. Not a steal at all.

Dray's style of play works because opposing teams need to be wary of Steph and Klay first rather than Green himself.

Put Dray on a team with no good scorers and everyone will see how bad he is at max or near max contract.

[Clyde_Style]

Cheap as hell contract they legit lucked out. Some foolish team would've forced an overpay

Dray is the heart and soul of the Warriors. 25 million per for the leadership, defense, veterancy, and running the offense from a frontcourt position may just be "appropriate". He is a low scoring player even though he runs the O and he is not a go-to-scorer. Not a steal at all.

Dray's style of play works because opposing teams need to be wary of Steph and Klay first rather than Green himself.

Put Dray on a team with no good scorers and everyone will see how bad he is at max or near max contract.

Yeah, but he's a perfect example of successful roster construction. Fans tend to focus on individual achievements to the exclusion of how the parts fit together.

[spree2kawhi]

Cheap as hell contract they legit lucked out. Some foolish team would've forced an overpay

Dray is the heart and soul of the Warriors. 25 million per for the leadership, defense, veterancy, and running the offense from a frontcourt position may just be "appropriate". He is a low scoring player even though he runs the O and he is not a go-to-scorer. Not a steal at all.

Dray's style of play works because opposing teams need to be wary of Steph and Klay first rather than Green himself.

Put Dray on a team with no good scorers and everyone will see how bad he is at max or near max contract.

Yeah, but he's a perfect example of successful roster construction. Fans tend to focus on individual achievements to the exclusion of how the parts fit together.

Outlining the weaknesses of a player like Green reveals a lot. It's just something you wouldn't want to do. If you actually played basketball on a higher level, you'd know exactly what it is that he brings and most importantly how invaluable that is. He's a very, very good player and worth every penny of that contract. Good luck finding anything similar to his hustle and leadership around the league. It's just not there. There's literally nobody with that edge and skill.

[Clyde_Style]

Dray is the heart and soul of the Warriors. 25 million per for the leadership, defense, veterancy, and running the offense from a frontcourt position may just be "appropriate". He is a low scoring player even though he runs the O and he is not a go-to-scorer. Not a steal at all.

Dray's style of play works because opposing teams need to be wary of Steph and Klay first rather than Green himself.

Put Dray on a team with no good scorers and everyone will see how bad he is at max or near max contract.

Yeah, but he's a perfect example of successful roster construction. Fans tend to focus on individual achievements to the exclusion of how the parts fit together.

Outlining the weaknesses of a player like Green reveals a lot. It's just something you wouldn't want to do. If you actually played basketball on a higher level, you'd know exactly what it is that he brings and most importantly how invaluable that is. He's a very, very good player and worth every penny of that contract. Good luck finding anything similar to his hustle and leadership around the league. It's just not there. There's literally nobody with that edge and skill.

I think Green really exemplifies the importance of will, intent and BBIQ and why you should always be building around players who possess those traits.

To me those are the foundational players you cannot contend without.

Without Green, the opportunity for Curry and Klay to win rings is reduced astronomically. They play off of a player like Green as much as he benefits from their prowess at spacing the court. And that is saying a lot since Steph on his own would still probably be the best guard in the league and he could run any club on his own. But this was a better balance for him with Green often being the hub instead.

I think this is also a good example in terms of my feelings about Melo. I can't stand him, but I'm not blind to what he could have been in the proper context where he was not the focus of the club. You put him next to a Green and an elite PG and then he can be the 2nd or 3rd option, some nights the #1 option, but never the guy through whom the plays get run. Then I'd accept a Melo on my team, because his idiocy would be overruled by the smarter players with the authority to keep his hogging in check. I know talent. Melo had talent, but he's a fool and fools need mentors.

[spree2kawhi]

Yeah, but he's a perfect example of successful roster construction. Fans tend to focus on individual achievements to the exclusion of how the parts fit together.

Outlining the weaknesses of a player like Green reveals a lot. It's just something you wouldn't want to do. If you actually played basketball on a higher level, you'd know exactly what it is that he brings and most importantly how invaluable that is. He's a very, very good player and worth every penny of that contract. Good luck finding anything similar to his hustle and leadership around the league. It's just not there. There's literally nobody with that edge and skill.

I think Green really exemplifies the importance of will, intent and BBIQ and why you should always be building around players who possess those traits.

To me those are the foundational players you cannot contend without.

Without Green, the opportunity for Curry and Klay to win rings is reduced astronomically. They play off of a player like Green as much as he benefits from their prowess at spacing the court. And that is saying a lot since Steph on his own would still probably be the best guard in the league and he could run any club on his own. But this was a better balance for him with Green often being the hub instead.

I think this is also a good example in terms of my feelings about Melo. I can't stand him, but I'm not blind to what he could have been in the proper context where he was not the focus of the club. You put him next to a Green and an elite PG and then he can be the 2nd or 3rd option, some nights the #1 option, but never the guy through whom the plays get run. Then I'd accept a Melo on my team, because his idiocy would be overruled by the smarter players with the authority to keep his hogging in check. I know talent. Melo had talent, but he's a fool and fools need mentors.

Draymond is their point guard half of the time. He's their Ben Wallace all the time. Think about it. Melo never had that, it's true. Defense goes all the way as this year's Raptors showed and when Melo had Chandler and Sheed he looked real good. But it's not about that guy, he didn't even realize that himself probably until now. It's always a team sport and what Draymond brings is off the charts.

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[Deeeez Knicks]

That is a pretty good deal for Green. He is super valuable for GS.

[BKlutch]

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[taj2133]

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[dakomish23]

Absolutely and it isnt even close.

Trae,luka and zion are in a tier all by themselves.

Interesting take. Idk if I’d got here yet but I love both these guys so I could def see both being top 5 PGs in their primes.

Fox over Trae any day of the week, Fox is able to control the game from both sides of the floor.

Same reason I’m not there yet on Trae being better.

Trae goes nuclear on the offensive side, he’ll probably get the nod.

[taj2133]

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Outside of the sixers, bucks, and pacers the 4-8 seeds are open in the east. I have a hard time believing the heat and raptors are going to be good teams this year i doubt both of teams go to playoffs. Jimmy Butler is going to tick off the wrong people in miami dion waiters, and james johnson if things go bad. Boston is going to have problems on defense with kanter and probably will need a trade for big guy. Magic got to prove there not 1 year wonders and they have question at point guard they don't know if fultz is ever going to become something. Nets are going to have issues with kyrie if he becomes an azz like he was with the celtics last season they also have to pay levert, prince and joe harris next summer.

[taj2133]

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American basketball player DJ Cooper has received one of the more astounding suspensions in recent memory.

Cooper stepped away from AS Monaco late in 2018 for “family reasons,” though he attempted to join the Bosnian national team as a naturalised player later that year.

The former Ohio University standout never made it, however, and was instead handed a two-year suspension from FIBA for failing a drug test.

But it wasn’t performance enhancing drugs, recreational drugs or any of the other usual suspects that thwarted Cooper.

His drug test, according to Eurohoops.net, revealed that he was pregnant.

The test on the urine that Cooper provided revealed the presence of human chorionic gonadotropin, or hCG, which is a hormone made by the placenta during pregnancy.

That urine, per the report, actually belonged to his girlfriend — who likely didn’t know she was pregnant at the time.

So, FIBA suspended Cooper for fraud. He’s eligible to return on June 20, 2020
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/dj-cooper-drug-test-reveals-pregnant-basketball-121023506.html

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