Official Speculation Thread ‘19-'20 II: BIG as F

[pepe1991]

If i had to pick i would pick Otto Porter Jr. from Bulls as Warriors target to cash in D'Lo.
He is one of the best shooters out there and plays position of need at SF.
Also plays solid defense, money matches straight up.

[Instincts]

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His form looks pretty, he just needs to keep it consistent. In game his form changes sometimes from shot to shot. Pausing in the air too long and releasing a flat ball. He's come a long way from being a complete non shooter though and doesn't really get the credit for it.

That's his biggest issue imo. Someone who isn't a natural shooter, it's hard for them to consistently shoot the same shot during the game with fatigue and then going to the bench then coming back in maybe a little cold. You can see when he follows through he usually has a pretty shot but yeah sometimes he just flings a little bit.

The form looks more compact, shooting on the way up, and slightly lower set and release point. All are positives for consistency. He looks pretty natural in this video. He has progressed very quickly once entering the nba and settling on solid mechanics. Does he take another shooting percentage jump? That really is the 100 million dollar question. I bet with AG. I like the small modifications to form that he is showing that are effort in the right direction towards that shooting percentage jump.

But also I just love his drive, work ethic, and coach ability. To continuously have the wherewithal to surround yourself with the right trainers and people. He makes a lot of good decisions related to life and basketball development ie shooting form.

[basketballRob]

If i had to pick i would pick Otto Porter Jr. from Bulls as Warriors target to cash in D'Lo.
He is one of the best shooters out there and plays position of need at SF.
Also plays solid defense, money matches straight up.

Yeah and Coby White looks pretty bad. I think he was something like 3-35 from 3 in summer league.

AG and DJ would seem to be intriguing for them too. You get a starting SF and a backup PG.

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[pepe1991]

If i had to pick i would pick Otto Porter Jr. from Bulls as Warriors target to cash in D'Lo.
He is one of the best shooters out there and plays position of need at SF.
Also plays solid defense, money matches straight up.

Yeah and Coby White looks pretty bad. I think he was something like 3-35 from 3 in summer league.

AG and DJ would seem to be intriguing for them too. You get a starting SF and a backup PG.

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i highly doubt most of teams GMs or fans outside half of Magic fanbase view Gordon as SF.
I belive Warriors will probably hold onto DLO until some star becomes unhappy, than jump with offer. They are easly the best runned organization in nba.

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Devyn Marble about to put the Warriors over the top #DynastyNotOver

[pepe1991]

Did USA team cut anybody ?

[basketballRob]

During summer league, Hammond referred to AG as a PF. I think the only reason AG guarded some SF's over Isaac is because of strength.

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[Instincts]

If i had to pick i would pick Otto Porter Jr. from Bulls as Warriors target to cash in D'Lo.
He is one of the best shooters out there and plays position of need at SF.
Also plays solid defense, money matches straight up.

Yeah and Coby White looks pretty bad. I think he was something like 3-35 from 3 in summer league.

AG and DJ would seem to be intriguing for them too. You get a starting SF and a backup PG.

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i highly doubt most of teams GMs or fans outside half of Magic fanbase view Gordon as SF.
I belive Warriors will probably hold onto DLO until some star becomes unhappy, than jump with offer. They are easly the best runned organization in nba.

I’m sure most team GMs and fanbases concede that Aaron Gordon is an elite defender at the small forward position. This conversation will further resolve itself towards the SF position this year, but offensively AG does not have to exclusively play SF or PF, many of the NBAs best players alternate between the two positions based on match up, roster construction, and phase of career.

[pepe1991]

Yeah and Coby White looks pretty bad. I think he was something like 3-35 from 3 in summer league.

AG and DJ would seem to be intriguing for them too. You get a starting SF and a backup PG.

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i highly doubt most of teams GMs or fans outside half of Magic fanbase view Gordon as SF.
I belive Warriors will probably hold onto DLO until some star becomes unhappy, than jump with offer. They are easly the best runned organization in nba.

I’m sure most team GMs and fanbases concede that Aaron Gordon is an elite defender at the small forward position. This conversation will further resolve itself towards the SF position this year, but offensively AG does not have to exclusively play SF or PF, many of the NBAs best players alternate between the two positions based on match up, roster construction, and phase of career.

Most of fans only know Gordon as being elite dunker. Just like we view Lavie or something like that.

It's true that nobody really has to play one position , but in context of Warriors trade, with long term contract for Draymoond Green, Klay and Curry, along with Looney ,WSC and Spellman , just to be adding Alen Smailagić on 4 years contract , it's safe to assume they will look for more fluid SF, one that can , much like Igoudala in past, play with ball or at least spot up and shoot at elite level.

But i don't think they will do anything soon, they won't contend this year for title anyway with Klay being out for ,what looks like whole season.

[basketballRob]

It seems like I remember Harris playing mostly PF here and almost exclusively SF since he's been traded.

AG may be more valuable because he can play both forward positions. I couldn't see Porter playing anything but SF.

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[Instincts]

i highly doubt most of teams GMs or fans outside half of Magic fanbase view Gordon as SF.
I belive Warriors will probably hold onto DLO until some star becomes unhappy, than jump with offer. They are easly the best runned organization in nba.

I’m sure most team GMs and fanbases concede that Aaron Gordon is an elite defender at the small forward position. This conversation will further resolve itself towards the SF position this year, but offensively AG does not have to exclusively play SF or PF, many of the NBAs best players alternate between the two positions based on match up, roster construction, and phase of career.

Most of fans only know Gordon as being elite dunker. Just like we view Lavie or something like that.

It's true that nobody really has to play one position , but in context of Warriors trade, with long term contract for Draymoond Green, Klay and Curry, along with Looney ,WSC and Spellman , just to be adding Alen Smailagić on 4 years contract , it's safe to assume they will look for more fluid SF, one that can , much like Igoudala in past, play with ball or at least spot up and shoot at elite level.

But i don't think they will do anything soon, they won't contend this year for title anyway with Klay being out for ,what looks like whole season.

Ok, gotcha, he would have to slot in at SF for golden state. Similar to the situation here.

I do think AG is much closer to an Iggy player type than you are giving him credit for, yet:) I think he will win even you over by the end of this year.

Really though, Curry is 30 plus, they have to strongly consider just letting Russell be Currys successor and keeping the franchise contending as Curry ages. A Robinson to Duncan transition attempt.

[pepe1991]

I’m sure most team GMs and fanbases concede that Aaron Gordon is an elite defender at the small forward position. This conversation will further resolve itself towards the SF position this year, but offensively AG does not have to exclusively play SF or PF, many of the NBAs best players alternate between the two positions based on match up, roster construction, and phase of career.

Most of fans only know Gordon as being elite dunker. Just like we view Lavie or something like that.

It's true that nobody really has to play one position , but in context of Warriors trade, with long term contract for Draymoond Green, Klay and Curry, along with Looney ,WSC and Spellman , just to be adding Alen Smailagić on 4 years contract , it's safe to assume they will look for more fluid SF, one that can , much like Igoudala in past, play with ball or at least spot up and shoot at elite level.

But i don't think they will do anything soon, they won't contend this year for title anyway with Klay being out for ,what looks like whole season.

Ok, gotcha, he would have to slot in at SF for golden state. Similar to the situation here.

I do think AG is much closer to an Iggy player type than you are giving him credit for, yet:) I think he will win even you over by the end of this year.

Really though, Curry is 30 plus, they have to strongly consider just letting Russell be Currys successor and keeping the franchise contending as Curry ages. A Robinson to Duncan transition attempt.

There are few decision/ directions where Warriors could go from now.
I think them trying to make Russell new Curry and face of a team is least likely one.

If Curry is not 100% healthy or something like that early in season they could shut him down and flat out pull Spurs- Robinson season and tank.

As for Igoudala, guy was best player on 40-42 team while averaging 20 points 5 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 steals, being elite defender , and didn't make it to allstar game.
Instad of him making at least all nba defensive team, freaking Kobe and Jason Kidd made it, on nema value alone. Along with Raja Bell. All 3 of them, by today's advanced stats, had no impact on defense whatsoever. But , like in many times during early 00s, common sense, media bias and "pedigree" was only thing that mattered when it comes to NBA awards.

But going away from Philly ,especially going to Warrios, Igoudala turned his career into different direction, accepting smaller role, accepting himself as role player actually turned his career into something that looks to be HOF career.
3 Rings
1 NBA Finals MVP
1 all nba first defense
2 all nba second defense
1 allstar game
1 olympics gold
1 world cup gold

it's still laughable to me that Igoudala averaged over 18 ppg, 6 rpg and 5 ppg for 4 years and never was allstar, yet freaking Paul MIllsap averaged like 16 points, 8 rebound and was allstar 4 times
Or f***** Al Horford, who is easly the most overrated player of this era. 5 allstar games for center who can't even rebound at respectful rate. But can shoot 3s and pass. 0,5 threes a game for career ( made) along with 3,2 assists.

[Instincts]

Most of fans only know Gordon as being elite dunker. Just like we view Lavie or something like that.

It's true that nobody really has to play one position , but in context of Warriors trade, with long term contract for Draymoond Green, Klay and Curry, along with Looney ,WSC and Spellman , just to be adding Alen Smailagić on 4 years contract , it's safe to assume they will look for more fluid SF, one that can , much like Igoudala in past, play with ball or at least spot up and shoot at elite level.

But i don't think they will do anything soon, they won't contend this year for title anyway with Klay being out for ,what looks like whole season.

Ok, gotcha, he would have to slot in at SF for golden state. Similar to the situation here.

I do think AG is much closer to an Iggy player type than you are giving him credit for, yet:) I think he will win even you over by the end of this year.

Really though, Curry is 30 plus, they have to strongly consider just letting Russell be Currys successor and keeping the franchise contending as Curry ages. A Robinson to Duncan transition attempt.

There are few decision/ directions where Warriors could go from now.
I think them trying to make Russell new Curry and face of a team is least likely one.

If Curry is not 100% healthy or something like that early in season they could shut him down and flat out pull Spurs- Robinson season and tank.

As for Igoudala, guy was best player on 40-42 team while averaging 20 points 5 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 steals, being elite defender , and didn't make it to allstar game.
Instad of him making at least all nba defensive team, freaking Kobe and Jason Kidd made it, on nema value alone. Along with Raja Bell. All 3 of them, by today's advanced stats, had no impact on defense whatsoever. But , like in many times during early 00s, common sense, media bias and "pedigree" was only thing that mattered when it comes to NBA awards.

But going away from Philly ,especially going to Warrios, Igoudala turned his career into different direction, accepting smaller role, accepting himself as role player actually turned his career into something that looks to be HOF career.
3 Rings
1 NBA Finals MVP
1 all nba first defense
2 all nba second defense
1 allstar game
1 olympics gold
1 world cup gold

it's still laughable to me that Igoudala averaged over 18 ppg, 6 rpg and 5 ppg for 4 years and never was allstar, yet freaking Paul MIllsap averaged like 16 points, 8 rebound and was allstar 4 times
Or f***** Al Horford, who is easly the most overrated player of this era. 5 allstar games for center who can't even rebound at respectful rate. But can shoot 3s and pass. 0,5 threes a game for career ( made) along with 3,2 assists.

I’m with you. I love Iggy as a player and player type. Two way stud. All around winning basketball player. I really think he is a good comp for Gordon this year at the same age, though AG’s shooting has a chance to be much better. Get on board with me on this, AG is our Iggy this year.

[Knightro]

During summer league, Hammond referred to AG as a PF. I think the only reason AG guarded some SF's over Isaac is because of strength.

I could be wrong here, but I remember Hammond saying the opposite.

When asked about Aminu, Hammond said he envisioned him backing up Gordon at the 3 and Isaac at the 4.

Now I do think Gordon’s natural position is PF, but Isaac and Aminu are also natural power forwards as well.

Somebody’s is going to have to play most of their minutes at the 3 this year and I think it’s going to be AG. He feels like the best choice of those three guys.

[tiderulz]

Yeah and Coby White looks pretty bad. I think he was something like 3-35 from 3 in summer league.

AG and DJ would seem to be intriguing for them too. You get a starting SF and a backup PG.

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i highly doubt most of teams GMs or fans outside half of Magic fanbase view Gordon as SF.
I belive Warriors will probably hold onto DLO until some star becomes unhappy, than jump with offer. They are easly the best runned organization in nba.

I’m sure most team GMs and fanbases concede that Aaron Gordon is an elite defender at the small forward position. This conversation will further resolve itself towards the SF position this year, but offensively AG does not have to exclusively play SF or PF, many of the NBAs best players alternate between the two positions based on match up, roster construction, and phase of career.

i dont believe that to be the case.

[basketballRob]

During summer league, Hammond referred to AG as a PF. I think the only reason AG guarded some SF's over Isaac is because of strength.

I could be wrong here, but I remember Hammond saying the opposite.

When asked about Aminu, Hammond said he envisioned him backing up Gordon at the 3 and Isaac at the 4.

Now I do think Gordon’s natural position is PF, but Isaac and Aminu are also natural power forwards as well.

Somebody’s is going to have to play most of their minutes at the 3 this year and I think it’s going to be AG. He feels like the best choice of those three guys.

You're right. That's what I meant to say, that he referred to AG as a small forward. I thought it was something at the time because GM's usually don't like to label players with a position.

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[basketballRob]

AG with Kemba and Danny Green at the Jr NBA today in Orlando. He was live on Instagram

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I have to admit this has me abit excited and I had to rewatch. Good post.

Anxious to see if he can implement these nuanced shooting form changes in an in game condition or if he reverts to the higher set/ release point when the lights are on. All about reps, confidence, and mental fortitude.

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I have to admit this has me abit excited and I had to rewatch. Good post.

Anxious to see if he can implement these nuanced shooting form changes in an in game condition or if he reverts to the higher set/ release point when the lights are on. All about reps, confidence, and mental fortitude.

I think having Gordon chase Kawhi around for 5 high-intensity games is going to prove to be a good learning experience for Gordon.

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I have to admit this has me abit excited and I had to rewatch. Good post.

Anxious to see if he can implement these nuanced shooting form changes in an in game condition or if he reverts to the higher set/ release point when the lights are on. All about reps, confidence, and mental fortitude.

I think having Gordon chase Kawhi around for 5 high-intensity games is going to prove to be a good learning experience for Gordon.

Yeah. Making the playoffs is making a good step towards these players growing organically.