Amazing Spurs stat that deserves its own thread

benson13 · Post #61 » by **benson13** » Sun Aug 4, 2019 11:31 pm

Pennebaker wrote:
And yet they could never repeat.

Regular season stuff is close to worthless.

The Duncan led Spurs didn't lose a first round series until 2009, and every year of that stretch the team that beat them won the Western Conference.

I'd say this is more than "regular season stuff".

CoP · Post #62 » by **CoP** » Sun Aug 4, 2019 11:47 pm

GeorgeMarcus wrote:
CoP wrote:Not sure what your Excel dataset includes, but if it resulted in a fundamental error like wins, you may want to double check your other insights. Good luck.

It didn’t “result in a fundamental error like wins”. I’m not even sure what that means. Just a data entry mistake that was easily corrected.

Oh ok cool. Glad I could correct it for you.

Post #63 » by **GeorgeMarcus** » Sun Aug 4, 2019 11:48 pm

CoP wrote:
GeorgeMarcus wrote:
CoP wrote:Not sure what your Excel dataset includes, but if it resulted in a fundamental error like wins, you may want to double check your other insights. Good luck.

It didn’t “result in a fundamental error like wins”. I’m not even sure what that means. Just a data entry mistake that was easily corrected.

Oh ok cool. Glad I could correct it for you.

You know what they say about broken clocks

Post #64 » by **-Sammy-** » Mon Aug 5, 2019 12:03 am

Pennebaker wrote:
GeorgeMarcus wrote:
Pennebaker wrote:
Its illusory. They were never as good as you thought they were. One year they win it all, the next year they're out in the first round.

Those teams had many first round exits. Hardly an example of excellence.

They made the playoffs all 20 years and made it out of the 1st round in 14 of them. They made 9 appearances to the WC Finals. They made 5 Finals appearances, and won 4 of them. (Again this is excluding the ring they won in 99)

If that ain't success then I don't know what is.

That's a kind of success, but not the kind most would consider ideal. Losing in the first round is always a disappointment - doubly so for a contender and even worse for a defending champion.

Most teams/fans/coaches/owners/GMs would rather three peat than have a spotty playoff record for 20 years with an inability to defend your title.

CoP · Post #65 » by **CoP** » Mon Aug 5, 2019 12:17 am

GeorgeMarcus wrote:
CoP wrote:
GeorgeMarcus wrote:
It didn’t “result in a fundamental error like wins”. I’m not even sure what that means. Just a data entry mistake that was easily corrected.

Oh ok cool. Glad I could correct it for you.

You know what they say about broken clocks

https://www.basketball-reference.com/

yellowknifer · Post #66 » by **yellowknifer** » Mon Aug 5, 2019 12:24 am

GeorgeMarcus wrote:
BVB24 wrote:Imagine thinking one of the 10 greatest players of all time wouldn’t be effective in any era of NBA basketball. Wild.

Moreover he was in the league 3 years ago, and won a Championship 5 years ago. Is that not modern?

And one of the best bigs in the league defensively still... his final year... but sure.

Post #67 » by **GeorgeMarcus** » Mon Aug 5, 2019 12:32 am

CoP wrote:
GeorgeMarcus wrote:
CoP wrote:Oh ok cool. Glad I could correct it for you.

You know what they say about broken clocks

what

They don't work right

CoP · Post #68 » by **CoP** » Mon Aug 5, 2019 12:50 am

GeorgeMarcus wrote:
CoP wrote:
GeorgeMarcus wrote:You know what they say about broken clocks

what

They don't work right

Next time you get ready to post another amazing stat, feel free to shoot me a PM and I can check bbref to make sure you didnt make another silly data entry mistake in Excel. Glad to help bud

dhsilv2 · Post #69 » by **dhsilv2** » Mon Aug 5, 2019 12:58 am

GeorgeMarcus wrote:
CoP wrote:
GeorgeMarcus wrote:
Edited the OP. Figures the Spurs were the only teams I made a significant error on. Oh well.

You're welcome. No need to add that up manually when a simple bbref search will do.

Excel is hardly "manual", and every team has a franchise index that makes it easy to sort. Plus cumulative win totals don't offer the same insights on each dataset.

Excel is the definition of manual in 2019

dhsilv2 · Post #70 » by **dhsilv2** » Mon Aug 5, 2019 1:02 am

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tgl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=combined&lg_id=NBA&team_seed_cmp=eq&opp_seed_cmp=eq&year_min=1977&is_range=N&game_num_type=team&game_result=W&c1val=1&order_by=wins

They're second to LA by a hair since they joined the league.

Post #71 » by **GeorgeMarcus** » Mon Aug 5, 2019 1:04 am

CoP wrote:
GeorgeMarcus wrote:
CoP wrote:what

They don't work right

Next time you get ready to post another amazing stat, feel free to shoot me a PM and I can check bbref to make sure you didnt make another silly data entry mistake in Excel. Glad to help bud

Hmm... Nah I don't think so. Pretty impressive I got the exact order correct doing it my way. I should probably receive some sort of award for my work.

CoP · Post #72 » by **CoP** » Mon Aug 5, 2019 1:25 am

GeorgeMarcus wrote:
CoP wrote:
GeorgeMarcus wrote:
They don't work right

Next time you get ready to post another amazing stat, feel free to shoot me a PM and I can check bbref to make sure you didnt make another silly data entry mistake in Excel. Glad to help bud

Hmm... Nah I don't think so. Pretty impressive I got the exact order correct doing it my way. I should probably receive some sort of award for my work.

Or you could have completed a simple search on bbref, done a quick copy/paste, and gotten the information AND order correctly. Shoot for the stars!

LakersLegacy · Post #73 » by **LakersLegacy** » Mon Aug 5, 2019 5:25 am

1. SAS - 1286 - 4 championships (99 fell of with 19 Raptors)
2. DAL - 1038 - 1 championship
3. LAL - 1016 - 5 championships
4. MIA - 1008 - 3 championships
5. BOS - 985 - 1 championship
6. HOU - 981
7. OKC - 951
8. IND - 947
9. UTA - 922
10. GSW - 915 - 3 championships
11. POR - 913
12. DET - 903 - 1 championship
13. CLE - 881 - 1 championship
14. DEN - 870
15 (tie). PHO - 860
15 (tie). TOR - 860 - 1 championship
17. NOP - 813
18. LAC - 803
19. ORL - 798
20. MIL - 797
21. PHI - 791
22. CHI - 784
23. SAC - 775
24. MEM - 765
25. ATL - 763
26. BKN - 759
27. WAS - 719
28. MIN - 714
29. NYK - 690
30. CHA - 488

Interesting. So HOU, OKC, IND, UTA, POR, DEN & PHX are the 7 most competitive teams that didn’t win a championship. Sounds right.

fortinbras · Post #74 » by **fortinbras** » Mon Aug 5, 2019 7:27 am

Duncan and Robinson. As simple as that.

Total wins (RS+PS)

(From 1989-90 to 2018-19)

SAS 1828
LAL 1540
UTA 1532
HOU 1505
SEA/OKC 1504
POR 1455
CHI 1453
IND 1436
PHO 1406
MIA 1403

Total double-double (RS+PS)

(From 1989-90 to 2018-19)

Duncan 1005
Shaq 869
Garnett 828
Howard 793
Malone 726
Stockton 630
Robinson 613
Gasol 591
Hakeem 564
LeBron 555

Total All-NBA + All-Defensive

(From 1989-90 to 2018-19)

Duncan 30
Kobe 27
LeBron 21
Garnett 21
Robinson 18

Post #75 » by **-Sammy-** » Mon Aug 5, 2019 7:38 am

LakersLegacy wrote:1. SAS - 1286 - 5 championships (whether anyone likes it or not)

I fixed it for you.

LakersLegacy · Post #76 » by **LakersLegacy** » Mon Aug 5, 2019 8:34 am

BombsquadSammy wrote:
LakersLegacy wrote:1. SAS - 1286 - 5 championships (whether anyone likes it or not)

I fixed it for you.

I added up the championships and got 21 so I dropped the old one. The 1999 counts for sure.
I don’t care if it was a lock out. LeBrons first
Championship came during the 2012 lockout season too. Still counts. I don’t believe in *s

abark · Post #77 » by **abark** » Mon Aug 5, 2019 8:34 am

Johnny Bball wrote:If you shrink this to 2004-05 and on.... the threes teams with the highest win percentage are SAS, Dallas and Houton. So if anyone thinks state taxes don't matter and taxes don't make the playing field un-level... well, not sure what to tell you.

https://fansided.com/2019/07/31/nba-geography-win-percentage/

Fwiw they heat come in tied for 4th. Orlando is the outlier, that speaks to how hard it is to overcome bad management.

And despite not being a big market, even the Magic were players in free agency when they signed Tmac, Grant Hill, while being in the running for Duncan back in the day.

But their incompetence ever since the Dwight era has completely tarnished their image.

yitur · Post #78 » by **yitur** » Mon Aug 5, 2019 9:40 am

Bornstellar wrote:Ah, the glory days

Or more like decades.

Post #79 » by **-Sammy-** » Mon Aug 5, 2019 12:30 pm

LakersLegacy wrote:
BombsquadSammy wrote:
LakersLegacy wrote:1. SAS - 1286 - 5 championships (whether anyone likes it or not)

I fixed it for you.

I added up the championships and got 21 so I dropped the old one. The 1999 counts for sure.
I don’t care if it was a lock out. LeBrons first
Championship came during the 2012 lockout season too. Still counts. I don’t believe in *s

That's my mistake-- I misunderstood what you were saying. I agree with you and apologize for my misapprehension!

dhsilv2 · Post #80 » by **dhsilv2** » Mon Aug 5, 2019 1:30 pm

LakersLegacy wrote:1. SAS - 1286 - 4 championships (99 fell of with 19 Raptors)

99
03
05
07
14

5....

Did this deserve its own thread?