Official Frank Ntilikina Thread

[Reign23]

lol Dennis Smith gonna kill him in training camp

he would be the first to be killed by dennis smith.

[god shammgod]

i wish they would just show you the clips. i don't need the terrible royalty free music and multiple angles video like it's 2006 and youtube was just invented. kinda hard to tell anything this way. that being said, i don't see anything different but his role there will be different than here anyway. he's probably never gonna play point here, he's gonna have to show some offense.

[iLLmatic860]

i wish they would just show you the clips. i don't need the terrible royalty free music and multiple angles video like it's 2006 and youtube was just invented. kinda hard to tell anything this way. that being said, i don't see anything different but his role there will be different than here anyway. he's probably never gonna play point here, he's gonna have to show some offense.

Exactly. France is more of a System orientated team. They not gonna run and gun like the nba. The leading scorer for France had 12 points yesterday

Dudes need to just stop overreacting

[Dranae]

People out here expecting Frank to run Fiz's system on Team France. Look, he's playing PG for France. His role will be vastly different in NY.

[Dantares]

So Frank played for 15 minutes and clocked 6 assists but the people who didn't watch the game saw no improvement and arrived to trash him for a few pages? That's about right.

He had a good game and put up good numbers in limited minutes. Nobody is denying that. I just want his mindset to change. It almost feels like Frank feels guilty that he is not getting his teammates involved if he takes more than 4 shots in one game.

I just want him to come in with the mindset to score. His jumpshot form is great and it doesn't look janky like Dennis Smith jr and elfrid Payton yet Frank shoots just as bad as them or worse from the perimeter. He is thinking too much when he should let the ball fly. Its a lack of confidence and indecisiveness.

[iLLmatic860]

People are forgetting that 2 years ago Frank was the youngest player in the nba. Hes only 21 years old. Theres rookies that are that age lol

If Frank doesnt improve from this opportunity ill be surprised. But he def can be a solid roleplayer on a playoff team.

[taj2133]

People are forgetting that 2 years ago Frank was the youngest player in the nba. Hes only 21 years old. Theres rookies that are that age lol

If Frank doesnt improve from this opportunity ill be surprised. But he def can be a solid roleplayer on a playoff team.

Frank got to start making shots if he wants play for fizdale or any other team in the nba days of points guards who can't score are over. The problem with frank he can't make shots it like we picked jaq vaughn with the 8 pick bad offensive player and in today nba you got to make shots. Frank needs to go to team like charlotte, piston, suns, cavs, or grizzles less bright lights and less pressure.

[Jeff Van Gully]

I don’t get y’all we got enough guys to put the ball in the basket. He got 6 assists and 2 steals with good defense in 15 minutes. He took 3 shots. He needs to hit the 3 more consistently but otherwise how is this game viewed negatively. If you want RJ, Mitch, Knox, randle to score you need someone to defend and willingly pass them the ball.

We need to see some scoring from Frank. I know you’ve got to run in to defend him every time but we’ve seen a couple years of this.

I hope he sticks in the NBA but as of now it seems unlikely.

first in foremost we need Frank's impact defense back. That is more important than scoring. Because a average to ok defensive frank is pointless. If you get rookie year elite defensive frank back the others things will come along.

Another thing I like to see is getting into the paint and creating offense (I really don't care if its for himself or other) a basket is a basket...its worth the same amount of point whether someone else score it or he does.

I do understand he needs to hit an NBA average 3 pointer. That is understand and I do believe he will do that.

Otherwise I don't need him to put up 15 pts a game. I'm more concerned about his defense and playmaking...if those are impacting the game and he hopefully hits the league avg NBA 3...he is exactly what this team needs.

having 4-5 guys only worried about scoring is a disaster. Perry brough in a lot of guys that can score. Randle, Portis, RJ in the draft. These guys need and want the ball. Knox is another. DSJ is another that can score. You need some pass first guys. It worked with Prigioni because we had scorers with him. The only difference is he needs to make open 3's and I will hang my hat on him eventually doing that if he gets consistent minutes.

But my point remains no one notices 6 assists in 15 minutes? That is playing solid on that end whether you like to admit it or not. Being able to get the ball to people in spots they can score is a skill.

absolutely unfair to look at stats in a freakin' FIBA friendly. but even more unfair to highlight the lack of scoring, yet ignore an unusually high number of dimes for the floor time.

[Jeff Van Gully]

I'm out of this thread.

Gl any non-idiots posting. I'm probably sailing close to the line with saying how dumb I think various posters are.

good recognition. we all need to know when to step away sometimes.

[Jeff Van Gully]

And that's what it is for me. It's more annoyance because I believe he could do it but he sabotaging himself with these 3 shot efforts. Knox will come in and shoot 38%,same as Frank. And people are aware of his poor shooting but notice people dont say he cant score. Why is that? Because he attempts shots. And I'm not saying I enjoy it but for F sakes. People are literally begging Frank to score. How the F are you gonna score shotting 3 shots. Youd have to shoot 100% and have them be all 3s to get a measly 9pts on three damn shots. Hes supposed to be smart, use your Fing brain.

SHOOT THE DAMN BASKETBALL.

From now on dont even tell me the result. Just tell me how many shots he attempted and I'll know if hes made progress.

you'll have to wait for NBA action for this part. because that's not even the outlook for this FIBA competition. i don't think anyone uses shots attempted as a quality metric in this case.

[Jeff Van Gully]

lol Dennis Smith gonna kill him in training camp

i think DSJ likes him a lot and relishes the opportunity to build with dude.

we've also seen DSJ struggle immensely with frank on him. i'd like to see those matchups. combine frank and DSJ and you've got a special player. they should be looking for that fusion haaaaaa.

[Jeff Van Gully]

:lol: People out here expecting Frank to run Fiz's system on Team France. Look, he's playing PG for France. His role will be vastly different in NY.

amen.

imagine that.

[Jeff Van Gully]

this thread is a confirmation bias dumpster fire. just saying.

[god shammgod]

i would think that frank is gonna have to show out in training camp to get much of a look this season. he didn't get that much of a look last year and the competition for minutes wasn't nearly as fierce as it will be this year.

at the 1 you have dennis, payton and also rj who will probably handle some, since it's a strength for him, so they might put him with another 2 at times.
at the 2 you have rj, trier, ellington, dot and eventually bullock
at the 3 you have morris & knox and some of those 2s i just mentioned will play there some too

where is frank gonna play ? it doesn't seem likely he will much. he's definitely 3rd string at best at every position he could play.

[CharlesOakley]

We draft a 3-5 year project player. Fans want to trade him before season 3. The dude is 21 and is 6' 8" tall. He came into the league with a child's body and is slowly adding strength. His shot mechanics still look really good. Good mechanics usually leads to good percentages. I hope we actually develop him this year.

[Clyde_Style]

So Frank played for 15 minutes and clocked 6 assists but the people who didn't watch the game saw no improvement and arrived to trash him for a few pages? That's about right.

At RealGM, it's called staying in your lane

[Capn'O]

He doesn't need to be an all world scorer but he needs to be a threat. If teams don't need to worry about him at that end, his defense and facilitation doesn't make up for it. FIBA, I don't read too much into but if we don't see him become that this season it may be time to cut ties.

[jvsimonetti0514]

this thread is a confirmation bias dumpster fire. just saying.

If it makes you feel better as a card carry member of the “We shouldn’t have drafted Frank club,” I thought he played well and looked to attack the paint without hesitation. He’s def going to need to start hitting shots but I thought he looked as confident as I’ve ever seen him play.

[Capn'O]

i would think that frank is gonna have to show out in training camp to get much of a look this season. he didn't get that much of a look last year and the competition for minutes wasn't nearly as fierce as it will be this year.

at the 1 you have dennis, payton and also rj who will probably handle some, since it's a strength for him, so they might put him with another 2 at times.
at the 2 you have rj, trier, ellington, dot and eventually bullock
at the 3 you have morris & knox and some of those 2s i just mentioned will play there some too

where is frank gonna play ? it doesn't seem likely he will much. he's definitely 3rd string at best at every position he could play.

RJ, Trier, Frank lineups intrigue me.

But you're right. Not many minutes if he doesn't step up and take some.

[god shammgod]

i would think that frank is gonna have to show out in training camp to get much of a look this season. he didn't get that much of a look last year and the competition for minutes wasn't nearly as fierce as it will be this year.

at the 1 you have dennis, payton and also rj who will probably handle some, since it's a strength for him, so they might put him with another 2 at times.
at the 2 you have rj, trier, ellington, dot and eventually bullock
at the 3 you have morris & knox and some of those 2s i just mentioned will play there some too

where is frank gonna play ? it doesn't seem likely he will much. he's definitely 3rd string at best at every position he could play.

RJ, Trier, Frank lineups intrigue me.

But you're right. Not many minutes if he doesn't step up and take some.

yeah, and don't know how realistic that is. he would have to make such a transformation that you couldn't deny him his minutes. he's not gonna start. he's not gonna play over trier who's the only guy who can create for himself off the bench. he's not gonna play in front of the other 2s who are good shooters. they promised payton minutes, according to him, so he aint playing over him. his best bet would be to beat out knox for minutes at the 3 but since they drafted knox and are invested in him that doesn't seem likely. i can't see his spot.