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EJaggit wrote:Karl Malone, the greatest PF to ever play the game
(what he did was very wrong)
EJaggit wrote:Karl Malone, the greatest PF to ever play the game
(what he did was very wrong)
Kevin Willis wrote:This is an old story, I remember this and being shocked about it at first - maybe when Cheryl entered the WNBA. I also remember other NBA players talking about it too and a news report or mini-documentary on it. Someone said it was a transferring of what he went through to his children. His father denied his mother's existence and she raised a tribe of kids on her own and he did the same to his kids, deny their existence.
It's hard to judge without knowing the complete story and the article is not giving a ton of information. More sensationalist. What I remember was it was consensual but underage which is wrong. He was worried the parents were being gold-diggers which the article alludes to also. His perception of the world is sort of warped from his childhood but he was never violent to people. The article discusses little on why he did what he did or it being generational, like having an abusive parent and hitting their own kids. The mini-documentary touched on it and that needs to be understood more. Saying that I never liked Malone as a person even when he was playing. He, like Barkley, seems like a person who is racist against black people. But I do respect his ability to play basketball and I didn't even know he reconciled with all his children which suggests growth. Remember Dr. J did the same thing with his daughter, we can't be selective on who we condemn or even if we have the right to condemn someone else.
Dennis 37 wrote:Kevin Willis wrote:This is an old story, I remember this and being shocked about it at first - maybe when Cheryl entered the WNBA. I also remember other NBA players talking about it too and a news report or mini-documentary on it. Someone said it was a transferring of what he went through to his children. His father denied his mother's existence and she raised a tribe of kids on her own and he did the same to his kids, deny their existence.
It's hard to judge without knowing the complete story and the article is not giving a ton of information. More sensationalist. What I remember was it was consensual but underage which is wrong. He was worried the parents were being gold-diggers which the article alludes to also. His perception of the world is sort of warped from his childhood but he was never violent to people. The article discusses little on why he did what he did or it being generational, like having an abusive parent and hitting their own kids. The mini-documentary touched on it and that needs to be understood more. Saying that I never liked Malone as a person even when he was playing. He, like Barkley, seems like a person who is racist against black people. But I do respect his ability to play basketball and I didn't even know he reconciled with all his children which suggests growth. Remember Dr. J did the same thing with his daughter, we can't be selective on who we condemn or even if we have the right to condemn someone else.
I'm not selective. Underage people are called children. Children cannot legally give consent. Exceptions are only made if both parties are very close in age. Sex, without legal consent, is rape.
Danny1616 wrote:EJaggit wrote:Karl Malone, the greatest PF to ever play the game
(what he did was very wrong)
Duncan is the greatest PF ever.
Then I probably would have Dirk Nowitzki if you count him as a PF.
I personally would have Barkley at #3 but you can definitely debate him or Malone.
Dirk, Barkley and Malone are very very close.
Hero_Panda wrote:EJaggit wrote:Karl Malone, the greatest PF to ever play the game
(what he did was very wrong)
Kevin Willis wrote:Dennis 37 wrote:Kevin Willis wrote:This is an old story, I remember this and being shocked about it at first - maybe when Cheryl entered the WNBA. I also remember other NBA players talking about it too and a news report or mini-documentary on it. Someone said it was a transferring of what he went through to his children. His father denied his mother's existence and she raised a tribe of kids on her own and he did the same to his kids, deny their existence.
It's hard to judge without knowing the complete story and the article is not giving a ton of information. More sensationalist. What I remember was it was consensual but underage which is wrong. He was worried the parents were being gold-diggers which the article alludes to also. His perception of the world is sort of warped from his childhood but he was never violent to people. The article discusses little on why he did what he did or it being generational, like having an abusive parent and hitting their own kids. The mini-documentary touched on it and that needs to be understood more. Saying that I never liked Malone as a person even when he was playing. He, like Barkley, seems like a person who is racist against black people. But I do respect his ability to play basketball and I didn't even know he reconciled with all his children which suggests growth. Remember Dr. J did the same thing with his daughter, we can't be selective on who we condemn or even if we have the right to condemn someone else.
I'm not selective. Underage people are called children. Children cannot legally give consent. Exceptions are only made if both parties are very close in age. Sex, without legal consent, is rape.
I'm sorry, I regret posting. When this first was made public I thought the same as others even though I am definitely not a pitch fork type of guy. I then got in some heated discussion about it with friends and came to the conclusion that even though I don't condone it, I should at least understand the entire situation. Understand what happened and why. I remembered being pissed when someone pointed out would it be ok if he was 16. Or if she lied about her age. Of if they were really in love. Or in his environment this happens regularly and is a generational cycle that needs to be broken. I never considered that, I just wanted to punch Malone. How could he not acknowledge his daugther who made it to the WNBA without him. I would leave at he is a scumbag and step away from this thread.
rocky_da_best wrote:Kevin Willis wrote:Dennis 37 wrote:
I'm not selective. Underage people are called children. Children cannot legally give consent. Exceptions are only made if both parties are very close in age. Sex, without legal consent, is rape.
I'm sorry, I regret posting. When this first was made public I thought the same as others even though I am definitely not a pitch fork type of guy. I then got in some heated discussion about it with friends and came to the conclusion that even though I don't condone it, I should at least understand the entire situation. Understand what happened and why. I remembered being pissed when someone pointed out would it be ok if he was 16. Or if she lied about her age. Of if they were really in love. Or in his environment this happens regularly and is a generational cycle that needs to be broken. I never considered that, I just wanted to punch Malone. How could he not acknowledge his daugther who made it to the WNBA without him. I would leave at he is a scumbag and step away from this thread.
There's really nothing to understand. When the girl's age in question is 13, there's nothing to discuss. I've never seen a 13 year old that could pass as 18. That's nuts. It's not like she was 17 or turning 18 in a few months (not trying to rationalize it). She was 13. That's a middle school student in Canada. Let that sink in. The man is a pedo. Period.
"Or if they were really in love"....bro. This isn't Leon The Professional. Please step away from the thread like you said. That's insane to even consider as a possibility.
I used to see your post count and name and kinda think that you had something wise to say. But Iv'e noticed the last few times I see your name next to something it's pure nonsense.
2bmrap wrote:Every single star from the Jordan/Barkley/Malone era is a psycho
Westside Gunn wrote:wear a condom. if you cant afford a condom, abstain. if you cant abstain, get castrated
binjumper wrote:Kevin Willis wrote:This is an old story, I remember this and being shocked about it at first - maybe when Cheryl entered the WNBA. I also remember other NBA players talking about it too and a news report or mini-documentary on it. Someone said it was a transferring of what he went through to his children. His father denied his mother's existence and she raised a tribe of kids on her own and he did the same to his kids, deny their existence.
It's hard to judge without knowing the complete story and the article is not giving a ton of information. More sensationalist. What I remember was it was consensual but underage which is wrong. He was worried the parents were being gold-diggers which the article alludes to also. His perception of the world is sort of warped from his childhood but he was never violent to people. The article discusses little on why he did what he did or it being generational, like having an abusive parent and hitting their own kids. The mini-documentary touched on it and that needs to be understood more. Saying that I never liked Malone as a person even when he was playing. He, like Barkley, seems like a person who is racist against black people. But I do respect his ability to play basketball and I didn't even know he reconciled with all his children which suggests growth. Remember Dr. J did the same thing with his daughter, we can't be selective on who we condemn or even if we have the right to condemn someone else.
None of that matters when you decide to have sex with a 13 year old girl when he was 17+. He should be in jail.
