Top 10 players: team "Defense" vs team "Offense"

TheNG · Post #1 » by **TheNG** » Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:56 pm

I used the top10 list from the other thread to create two teams, team "defense" and team "offense".
In a hypothetical match up, which team will win?

Team "Defense":
Joel Embiid
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Kawhi Leonard
Paul George
Damian Lillard

Team "Offense":
Nikola Jokic
Anthony Davis
LeBron James
James Harden
Stephen Curry

[EDIT: I see so many comments about how is someone can be of the "defense" team etc. So let me explain my logic.
First, I wanted the positions to make sense. So I've been forced to put Embiid/Jokiic a C, then the PF could only be Davis/Giannis. Naturally I would put LeBron/Kawhi at SF, and since Curry/Liliard are PG, it means Harden/PG should be SG.

Now, given each position, I had to take one player and put him in the "Offense" team and the other on "Defense", so:
C: Easy choice - Embiid is surely better defender and Jokic probably is a better Offensive player.
SG: Easy- Harden is offensive beast while PG is an excellent defender.
SF: LeBron was always knows as an offensive beast , while Kawhi was 2 times DPOY. In addition, LeBron was criticised in the recent years for his defense by many people. Kawhi on the other hand helped stopping Giannis in last year playoffs. So it made more sense foo me to send Kawhi to the defensive team and put LeBron in the offensive team.
PF: Here I a had a tough choice. Both are great at both ends. But last year Giannis was pretty much "stopped" by Kawhi, hence is offense is still "limited" while his defense has less draws. So I decided to put Giannis on the defensive team and Davis on the offensive.
PG: Yes, Lillard is not a good defender. I know. But I a had three reasons to put him there. First - is he really worse than Curry on defense? I'm not sure. Second - let's say he is worse than Curry on defense by X. Surely Curry is better on Offense. By how much? let's say by Y. Is X>Y or Y>x? For me, Curry is such a good player on offense, that Y>X. I can't see the best "offensive" team without him. Third - I wanted the match up to be interesting. If I would have put Curry on the other team and Lillard on this one, I think the poll would have been much less interesting - not many people would vote for the "offensive" team.]

RCM88x · Post #2 » by **RCM88x** » Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:58 pm

Kawhi and Lillard on team defense? Wth

TheNG · Post #3 » by **TheNG** » Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:01 pm

RCM88x wrote:Kawhi and Lillard on team defense? Wth

It's either them or LeBron and Curry :lol:

Lenneth · Post #4 » by **Lenneth** » Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:21 pm

Why is Lillard on team "Defense"?

VDT · Post #5 » by **VDT** » Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:37 pm

Yea Curry is probably a better defender than Lillard.

Anyway, i will take team defense here. Tougher players mentally and physically and with less skill overlap.

Je K · Post #6 » by **Je K** » Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:36 am

Everyone on Team "Defense" (even though Lillard doesn't belong) has a very strong argument to switch teams, while there are only 1 or 2 "Offense" guys who you could justify putting on the defensive team.

TravisScott55 · Post #7 » by **TravisScott55** » Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:28 am

LMAO Lillard on team defense.

PistolPeteJR · Post #8 » by **PistolPeteJR** » Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:57 am

Team O any day.

Why is Lillard on Team D lol?

Indomitable · Post #9 » by **Indomitable** » Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:01 am

TheNG wrote:I used the top10 list from the other thread to create two teams, team "defense" and team "offense".
In a hypothetical match up, which team will win?

Team "Defense":
Joel Embiid
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Kawhi Leonard
Paul George
Damian Lillard

Team "Offense":
Nikola Jokic
Anthony Davis
LeBron James
James Harden
Stephen Curry

In what world does Lillard play defense.

Dnt hate · Post #10 » by **Dnt hate** » Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:03 am

RCM88x wrote:Kawhi and Lillard on team defense? Wth

Kawhi is probably the best defender in the league wth lol

Post #11 » by **Duke4life831** » Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:12 am

Dnt hate wrote:
RCM88x wrote:Kawhi and Lillard on team defense? Wth

Kawhi is probably the best defender in the league wth lol

We in 2015?

Post #12 » by **GeorgeMarcus** » Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:17 am

Team Defense (though I would argue that Steph > Dame defensively)

Clay Davis · Post #13 » by **Clay Davis** » Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:18 am

Team defense since they're all good offensive players too

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iggymcfrack · Post #14 » by **iggymcfrack** » Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:21 am

Team offense arguably has a better defender at 3/5 positions. Voting them mainly for the Curry/Lillard matchup as Lillard is by far the worst defender of the bunch.

DCRYsing89 · Post #15 » by **DCRYsing89** » Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:38 am

iggymcfrack wrote:Team offense arguably has a better defender at 3/5 positions. Voting them mainly for the Curry/Lillard matchup as Lillard is by far the worst defender of the bunch.

Hold Up....
3/5 positions?

You either saying Bron is better than Kawhi, Jokic better than Embiid or Harden over PG???
Though I suppose AD over Giannis is debatable I can see your POV, and Curry over Lillard I agree.

DCRYsing89 · Post #16 » by **DCRYsing89** » Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:39 am

Duke4life831 wrote:
Dnt hate wrote:
RCM88x wrote:Kawhi and Lillard on team defense? Wth

Kawhi is probably the best defender in the league wth lol

We in 2015?

When he locks in he deserves an arguement...

Though IMO not consistent enough anymore.

bon · Post #17 » by **bon** » Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:44 am

Thread derailed by the OP lol

Jables · Post #18 » by **Jables** » Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:50 am

iggymcfrack wrote:Team offense arguably has a better defender at 3/5 positions. Voting them mainly for the Curry/Lillard matchup as Lillard is by far the worst defender of the bunch.

Are you getting your positions mixed up or something? No that doesn't make any sense.

Also the 'Curry isn't that bad a defender' thing is going a bit too far if Lillard is 'by far' a worse defender, he can play genuinely good defense when he wants to.

dhsilv2 · Post #19 » by **dhsilv2** » Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:02 am

TheNG wrote:
RCM88x wrote:Kawhi and Lillard on team defense? Wth

It's either them or LeBron and Curry

They would be the better defensive choice....

dhsilv2 · Post #20 » by **dhsilv2** » Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:03 am

Dnt hate wrote:
RCM88x wrote:Kawhi and Lillard on team defense? Wth

Kawhi is probably the best defender in the league wth lol

He wasn't a top 3 player on his own team!

Which team is better?