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Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread 

Post#801 » by ny-n-md » Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:37 pm



This guy is putting in work this offseason! That jumper is looking good. He splashed a couple in this video with the Morris twins defending him at around 5:30 mark. He wants it. I can’t wait for this season to get here.
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Post#803 » by Juco24 » Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:40 pm

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I have a good feeling about him... video made me hype!
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Post#804 » by HerSports85 » Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:48 pm

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This better be my starting point guard opening night
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DSJ showing he can play with Payton. Showing off that jumper and hops too
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3toheadmelo wrote:DSJ showing he can play with Payton. Showing off that jumper and hops too
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Are they playing pickup against high schoolers? No way are DSJ, Elfrid Payton and RJ Barrett going to be able to coexist together in the NBA. Sorry bro but it just won't work.

Payton is not much of an upgrade over Mudiay, so it really won't be much different.
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Post#807 » by BKlutch » Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:01 am

DSJ is so amazingly athletic. I just hope his shot is really as good as it looks here. It's astounding how good he looks and how good his shot looks. He's taken off the flab, like he really wants to succeed here. Let's hope it's for real.
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3toheadmelo wrote:DSJ showing he can play with Payton. Showing off that jumper and hops too
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Are they playing pickup against high schoolers? No way are DSJ, Elfrid Payton and RJ Barrett going to be able to coexist together in the NBA. Sorry bro but it just won't work.

Payton is not much of an upgrade over Mudiay, so it really won't be much different.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Payton play with his head up and finish better at the rim vs. Mudiay who played way too much with his head down and was only average at best at the rim?

Seems like a definite upgrade to me even though I now expect him to back up DSJr who also appears to have upgraded himself this off-season.

I do want to see if RJ and DSJr can play together.

Besides, what does it matter if only two of them are on the court together at the same time? We're not talking about 3 players sharing the ball, just two at a time.
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3toheadmelo wrote:DSJ showing he can play with Payton. Showing off that jumper and hops too
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Are they playing pickup against high schoolers? No way are DSJ, Elfrid Payton and RJ Barrett going to be able to coexist together in the NBA. Sorry bro but it just won't work.

Payton is not much of an upgrade over Mudiay, so it really won't be much different.

Payton passed the ball to DSJ in this vid more times than Mudiay did all year. Maybe you’re right but it’s very possible it can work. Especially if DSJ shot is legit too.
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Post#810 » by mpharris36 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:59 am

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mpharris36 wrote:am I seriously seeing people compare him to HOF players or players that won MVP's...lord have mercy.

I'm excited about his development but pump the breaks fellas.


Sure get mad at the DSJ comparisons but let someone compare Frank to Kawhi and the love would be unconditional.... :wink: :lol:


i would call them just as stupid.... :wink: :lol:
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Post#811 » by Rock Bottom » Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:15 am

this dude dsjr gon be nice.. and morris can anthony mason/kurt thomas tha sht down for us..
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Post#812 » by HEZI » Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:15 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
HEZI wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:DSJ showing he can play with Payton. Showing off that jumper and hops too
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Are they playing pickup against high schoolers? No way are DSJ, Elfrid Payton and RJ Barrett going to be able to coexist together in the NBA. Sorry bro but it just won't work.

Payton is not much of an upgrade over Mudiay, so it really won't be much different.

Payton passed the ball to DSJ in this vid more times than Mudiay did all year. Maybe you’re right but it’s very possible it can work. Especially if DSJ shot is legit too.


It's a pickup game and not even a Rico Hines run either. These guys look like they hooping against some kids and D2 players
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Post#813 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:27 am

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This better be my starting point guard opening night


Spliff's not even playing with a real basketball. Look how big and heavy that basketball is. He doesn't even know what sized a regulation basketball is. :noway: :rofl: :crazy:
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Post#814 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:32 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
HEZI wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:DSJ showing he can play with Payton. Showing off that jumper and hops too
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Are they playing pickup against high schoolers? No way are DSJ, Elfrid Payton and RJ Barrett going to be able to coexist together in the NBA. Sorry bro but it just won't work.

Payton is not much of an upgrade over Mudiay, so it really won't be much different.

Payton passed the ball to DSJ in this vid more times than Mudiay did all year. Maybe you’re right but it’s very possible it can work. Especially if DSJ shot is legit too.


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Re: Dennis Smith, Jr. Thread 

Post#815 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:34 am

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HEZI wrote:
Are they playing pickup against high schoolers? No way are DSJ, Elfrid Payton and RJ Barrett going to be able to coexist together in the NBA. Sorry bro but it just won't work.

Payton is not much of an upgrade over Mudiay, so it really won't be much different.

Payton passed the ball to DSJ in this vid more times than Mudiay did all year. Maybe you’re right but it’s very possible it can work. Especially if DSJ shot is legit too.


It's a pickup game and not even a Rico Hines run either. These guys look like they hooping against some kids and D2 players


Looks like the pre-game practice session for the NBA ASG.
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Post#816 » by Juco24 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:48 pm

BKlutch wrote:DSJ is so amazingly athletic. I just hope his shot is really as good as it looks here. It's astounding how good he looks and how good his shot looks. He's taken off the flab, like he really wants to succeed here. Let's hope it's for real.


Yeah - agreed!!... I know the competition was lacking but I look for the little things.... Did you notice the fluidity? Same motion each time? Those are things that don't change regardless of who you're playing. And he's definitely different.
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Post#817 » by Juco24 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:55 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:DSJ showing he can play with Payton. Showing off that jumper and hops too
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Are they playing pickup against high schoolers? No way are DSJ, Elfrid Payton and RJ Barrett going to be able to coexist together in the NBA. Sorry bro but it just won't work.

Payton is not much of an upgrade over Mudiay, so it really won't be much different.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Payton play with his head up and finish better at the rim vs. Mudiay who played way too much with his head down and was only average at best at the rim?

Seems like a definite upgrade to me even though I now expect him to back up DSJr who also appears to have upgraded himself this off-season.

I do want to see if RJ and DSJr can play together.

Besides, what does it matter if only two of them are on the court together at the same time? We're not talking about 3 players sharing the ball, just two at a time.


I'm glad you responded the way you did Clyde... Mudiay did nothing to make the team better and I don't know if that's even in his psyche. EP is a better defender, passer & finisher - actually no comparison.

And I know this video is kinda silly, but I'd never thought about playing EP with DSJ. Not advocating for it (before someone goes crazy) but I could see them playing some together.
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Post#818 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:11 pm

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Are they playing pickup against high schoolers? No way are DSJ, Elfrid Payton and RJ Barrett going to be able to coexist together in the NBA. Sorry bro but it just won't work.

Payton is not much of an upgrade over Mudiay, so it really won't be much different.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Payton play with his head up and finish better at the rim vs. Mudiay who played way too much with his head down and was only average at best at the rim?

Seems like a definite upgrade to me even though I now expect him to back up DSJr who also appears to have upgraded himself this off-season.

I do want to see if RJ and DSJr can play together.

Besides, what does it matter if only two of them are on the court together at the same time? We're not talking about 3 players sharing the ball, just two at a time.


I'm glad you responded the way you did Clyde... Mudiay did nothing to make the team better and I don't know if that's even in his psyche. EP is a better defender, passer & finisher - actually no comparison.

And I know this video is kinda silly, but I'd never thought about playing EP with DSJ. Not advocating for it (before someone goes crazy) but I could see them playing some together.


Yeah EP is clearly a better player than Mudiay.

I expect Fiz to try playing him with DSJr. It might even be the starting lineup, though I still expect our # 3 pick to have a strong shot at starting unless his stumbles during training camp and pre-season.

So, actually if we had not drafted third I'd probably expect EP to start with Dennis, but I think # 3 picks will start as long as they are performing.

Since Dennis can play off the ball too if his shot is falling I don't really see the usage arguments as being totally valid. That is more of a coaching issue. If Fiz tries to teach Dennis how to play off-the-ball better then he can alternate with another ball handler in terms of who initiates a play.

If Smith's jumper is wet, then he will actually be more dangerous if sometimes shoots or drives as a pass recipient. He becomes more viable as a combo guard than as strictly a PG. Again, it comes down more to how guys learn to play off of each other than their strict position designation. Positionless ball could be a legit benefit to a player like Smith in particular.
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Post#819 » by GONYK » Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:12 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Payton play with his head up and finish better at the rim vs. Mudiay who played way too much with his head down and was only average at best at the rim?

Seems like a definite upgrade to me even though I now expect him to back up DSJr who also appears to have upgraded himself this off-season.

I do want to see if RJ and DSJr can play together.

Besides, what does it matter if only two of them are on the court together at the same time? We're not talking about 3 players sharing the ball, just two at a time.


I'm glad you responded the way you did Clyde... Mudiay did nothing to make the team better and I don't know if that's even in his psyche. EP is a better defender, passer & finisher - actually no comparison.

And I know this video is kinda silly, but I'd never thought about playing EP with DSJ. Not advocating for it (before someone goes crazy) but I could see them playing some together.


Yeah EP is clearly a better player than Mudiay.

I expect Fiz to try playing him with DSJr. It might even be the starting lineup, though I still expect our # 3 pick to have a strong shot at starting unless his stumbles during training camp and pre-season.

So, actually if we had not drafted third I'd probably expect EP to start with Dennis, but I think # 3 picks will start as long as they are performing.

Since Dennis can play off the ball too if his shot is falling I don't really see the usage arguments as being totally valid. That is more of a coaching issue. If Fiz tries to teach Dennis how to play off-the-ball better then he can alternate with another ball handler in terms of who initiates a play.


This has yet to be determined. His shot isn't the only concern on that front.
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Post#820 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:15 pm

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I'm glad you responded the way you did Clyde... Mudiay did nothing to make the team better and I don't know if that's even in his psyche. EP is a better defender, passer & finisher - actually no comparison.

And I know this video is kinda silly, but I'd never thought about playing EP with DSJ. Not advocating for it (before someone goes crazy) but I could see them playing some together.


Yeah EP is clearly a better player than Mudiay.

I expect Fiz to try playing him with DSJr. It might even be the starting lineup, though I still expect our # 3 pick to have a strong shot at starting unless his stumbles during training camp and pre-season.

So, actually if we had not drafted third I'd probably expect EP to start with Dennis, but I think # 3 picks will start as long as they are performing.

Since Dennis can play off the ball too if his shot is falling I don't really see the usage arguments as being totally valid. That is more of a coaching issue. If Fiz tries to teach Dennis how to play off-the-ball better then he can alternate with another ball handler in terms of who initiates a play.


This has yet to be determined. His shot isn't the only concern on that front.


Re-read my sentence for the grammar though. I see nothing in his game that cannot be utilized as the beneficiary of a pass as opposed to requiring the ball in his hands at all times IF his outside shot becomes a legit threat.

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