Official Speculation Thread ‘19-'20 II: BIG as F

ezzzp · Post #1881 » by **ezzzp** » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:07 pm

France (Fournier) vs Montenegro (Vucevic) full game highlights :

Blue_and_Whte · Post #1882 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:10 pm

ezzzp wrote:A couple of our boys made this list...deflections to foul ratio is a key ingredient to Clifford's defensive philosophy...Vucevic and Isaac being on this list is a big part of why Magic's defense was really good starting January last season. Players bought in to it and executed their role.

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Random Stat of the Day - Highest ratio of (steals + blocks) / fouls committed, 2018-19.

Of course Vuc is on that list. His steals around the basket dont get the same attention because hes not blocking a shot followed by the "arms straight to the side with fists" that comes after the block.

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MagicStarwipe · Post #1883 » by **MagicStarwipe** » Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:16 am

ezzzp wrote:France (Fournier) vs Montenegro (Vucevic) full game highlights :

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France took it to another level in the 4th. Looks like Montenegro doesn't feature Vucevic much.

pepe1991 · Post #1884 » by **pepe1991** » Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:52 am

MagicStarwipe wrote:
ezzzp wrote:France (Fournier) vs Montenegro (Vucevic) full game highlights :

Watch on YouTube

France took it to another level in the 4th. Looks like Montenegro doesn't feature Vucevic much.

France is dark horse.
They can roll lineup like DeColo, Evan, Ntkilina, Batum ,Gobert and still from bench get some quality production from TLC, Lessort, Okobo, Toupane.

Montenegro's best players are pretty much all centers.

drsd · Post #1885 » by **drsd** » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:20 am

ezzzp wrote:Incumbent Starters:
1 D.J. Augustin
2 Evan Fournier
3 Aaron Gordon
4 Jonathan Isaac
5 Nikola Vucevic

Rotation:
6 Michael Carter-Williams
7 Terrence Ross
8 Al-Farouq Aminu
9 Khem Birch

Potential Rotation:
10 Wesley Iwundu
11 Markelle Fultz
12 Mo Bamba

Injured / Inactive :
13 Melvin Frazier (IL)
14 Chuma Okeke (IL) unsigned
15

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Training Camp Invites:
15 Hassani Gravett (Exhibit 10)
16 Josh Magette (2 Way / G-League)
17 DaQuan Jeffries (Exhibit 10)
18 Vic Law (Exhibit 10)
19 Amile Jefferson (2 Way / G-League)
20 Isaac Humphries (Exhibit 10)

If the Magic red-shirt Okeke, I would think a training-camp invite makes the roster as Mr. Number-14. I will pencil in Jeffries. Roster slot #15 would presumably be left open for an late-season addition.

The opening night depth chart looks fairly set as:
Augustin/Carter-Williams/Fultz(IL)
Fournier/Ross/Jeffries
Gordon/Iwundu/Frazier(IL)
Isaac/Aminu
Vučević/Birch/Bamba

As the season evolves (an perhaps considering training camp), the only real battles look to be Carter-Williams vs. Fultz and Birch vs. Bamba. But in the end, it is not "he who starts" but rather "he who finishes."

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Optimus_Steel · Post #1886 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:27 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
MagicStarwipe wrote:
ezzzp wrote:France (Fournier) vs Montenegro (Vucevic) full game highlights :

Watch on YouTube

France took it to another level in the 4th. Looks like Montenegro doesn't feature Vucevic much.

France is dark horse.
They can roll lineup like DeColo, Evan, Ntkilina, Batum ,Gobert and still from bench get some quality production from TLC, Lessort, Okobo, Toupane.

Montenegro's best players are pretty much all centers.

I couldn't find a box score online but it looked like Evan had a big game. Have big hopes for a bounce back year for him.

Optimus_Steel · Post #1887 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:45 pm

Just saw the Magic/Hornets game from Nov 94 and man I just keep forgetting what a freak of nature Shaq was. I was a kid at the time so its easy to forget how physically dominant a young Shaq was.

drsd · Post #1888 » by **drsd** » Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:26 pm

Optimus_Steel wrote:Just saw the Magic/Hornets game from Nov 94 and man I just keep forgetting what a freak of nature Shaq was. I was a kid at the time so its easy to forget how physically dominant a young Shaq was.

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ezzzp · Post #1889 » by **ezzzp** » Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:05 pm

Optimus_Steel wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
MagicStarwipe wrote:
France took it to another level in the 4th. Looks like Montenegro doesn't feature Vucevic much.

France is dark horse.
They can roll lineup like DeColo, Evan, Ntkilina, Batum ,Gobert and still from bench get some quality production from TLC, Lessort, Okobo, Toupane.

Montenegro's best players are pretty much all centers.

I couldn't find a box score online but it looked like Evan had a big game. Have big hopes for a bounce back year for him.

Fournier 30:42 minutes, 17 points (7-14), 2-6 three's, 5 assists, 4 steals , 2 rebounds, +7

Vucevic 26:09 minutes, 12 points (5-14), 1-4 three's, 1 assist, 1 steal, 1 block, 10 rebounds, -10

rcklsscognition · Post #1890 » by **rcklsscognition** » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:03 pm

Fournier looks like he's in great shape. Extremely aggressive in the fast break all game.

MagicStarwipe · Post #1891 » by **MagicStarwipe** » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:17 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:Fournier looks like he's in great shape. Extremely aggressive in the fast break all game.

He looked quick against that competition, but that competition is different to NBA competition.

Blue_and_Whte · Post #1892 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:44 pm

MagicStarwipe wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:Fournier looks like he's in great shape. Extremely aggressive in the fast break all game.

He looked quick against that competition, but that competition is different to NBA competition.

What? Like he hasn’t successfully played in the NBA the last 7 years? :lol:

I’m sure he’ll be fine.

Blue_and_Whte · Post #1893 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:45 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:Fournier looks like he's in great shape. Extremely aggressive in the fast break all game.

his one off season should be behind him.

magicman112 · Post #1894 » by **magicman112** » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:00 pm

Optimus_Steel wrote:Just saw the Magic/Hornets game from Nov 94 and man I just keep forgetting what a freak of nature Shaq was. I was a kid at the time so its easy to forget how physically dominant a young Shaq was.

I was lucky enough to be able to go to games while he was here and he was just a force of nature. He had multiple dunks EVERY game. Not like now where a guy might get a dunk or two in a game he just overpowered people they had no shot at keeping him away from the basket.

MagicStarwipe · Post #1895 » by **MagicStarwipe** » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:06 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:
MagicStarwipe wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:Fournier looks like he's in great shape. Extremely aggressive in the fast break all game.

He looked quick against that competition, but that competition is different to NBA competition.

What? Like he hasn’t successfully played in the NBA the last 7 years? I’m sure he’ll be fine.

Well "quick" is the key word. He hasn't looked quick in the last couple years and it's been to his detriment.

ezzzp · Post #1896 » by **ezzzp** » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:13 pm

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ezzzp · Post #1897 » by **ezzzp** » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:29 pm

Its Orlando Magic day...

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Magic_Johnny12 · Post #1898 » by **Magic_Johnny12** » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:56 pm

ezzzp wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
France is dark horse.
They can roll lineup like DeColo, Evan, Ntkilina, Batum ,Gobert and still from bench get some quality production from TLC, Lessort, Okobo, Toupane.

Montenegro's best players are pretty much all centers.

I couldn't find a box score online but it looked like Evan had a big game. Have big hopes for a bounce back year for him.

Fournier 30:42 minutes, 17 points (7-14), 2-6 three's, 5 assists, 4 steals , 2 rebounds, +7

Vucevic 26:09 minutes, 12 points (5-14), 1-4 three's, 1 assist, 1 steal, 1 block, 10 rebounds, -10

WHAT A JOKE?! FAKE ALL-STAR! WE NEED TO TRADE HIM!!

ezzzp · Post #1899 » by **ezzzp** » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:04 pm

MagicStarwipe wrote:
Blue_and_Whte wrote:
MagicStarwipe wrote:He looked quick against that competition, but that competition is different to NBA competition.

What? Like he hasn’t successfully played in the NBA the last 7 years? I’m sure he’ll be fine.

Well "quick" is the key word. He hasn't looked quick in the last couple years and it's been to his detriment.

Nah, his drive game had been solid in prior three years. This past season he scored less on drives but that has more to do with the considerable increase in the passing side of his drive game (aka creating more for others):

Post #1900 » by **Knightro** » Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:08 am

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