The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread

[Jalen Bluntson]

I've heard he and Vince Carter are both doing their retirement tour together. He's opening a baguette shop on the lower east side post retirement. Been a great run.

But let's give Elfrid Phucking Payton playing time. Idiot front office.

not really a fan of the Payton signing. Not a bad deal but...whatever. I get it. The team isn't standing still for Frank. Phil drafted him for the triangle...he never should have been allowed to make that pick if you were gonna fire him.

Knick french pod doesn't like signing of payton either and he has question about dsj.

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That dudes a straight homer. You're a straight hater. What's your point?

[taj2133]

not really a fan of the Payton signing. Not a bad deal but...whatever. I get it. The team isn't standing still for Frank. Phil drafted him for the triangle...he never should have been allowed to make that pick if you were gonna fire him.

Knick french pod doesn't like signing of payton either and he has question about dsj.

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That dudes a straight homer. You're a straight hater. What's your point?

The difference between me and french pod i can eat crow if i am wrong that's the difference.

[iLLmatic860]

This French guy needs to shut up

[taj2133]

This French guy needs to shut up

I agree with you french knicks pod needs to shut up he is too much off homer.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Knick french pod doesn't like signing of payton either and he has question about dsj.

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That dudes a straight homer. You're a straight hater. What's your point?

The difference between me and french pod i can eat crow if i am wrong that's the difference.

You would be eating a whole lotta crow!! It is what it is. I'm glad we have youth to discuss. I'm a huge Frank fan. I know what he needs to improve. I believe he has a solid role on a winning team. How much of a role is TBD but...I'm fine with watching it play out. Hopefully...you eat that crow instead of the French guy.

[taj2133]

That dudes a straight homer. You're a straight hater. What's your point?

The difference between me and french pod i can eat crow if i am wrong that's the difference.

You would be eating a whole lotta crow!! It is what it is. I'm glad we have youth to discuss. I'm a huge Frank fan. I know what he needs to improve. I believe he has a solid role on a winning team. How much of a role is TBD but...I'm fine with watching it play out. Hopefully...you eat that crow instead of the French guy.

Frank has to prove me wrong this season i man of my word and we will see if he improves this season.

[Jalen Bluntson]

The difference between me and french pod i can eat crow if i am wrong that's the difference.

You would be eating a whole lotta crow!! It is what it is. I'm glad we have youth to discuss. I'm a huge Frank fan. I know what he needs to improve. I believe he has a solid role on a winning team. How much of a role is TBD but...I'm fine with watching it play out. Hopefully...you eat that crow instead of the French guy.

Frank has to prove me wrong this season i man of my word and we will see if he improves this season.

I hear you man. I just like messing with you. You've been trading him since draft night!!

[taj2133]

if this was posted already my bad in advanced.

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[nedleeds]

He's washed. He's the new Herb Williams. Dudes been around forever!!!

I've heard he and Vince Carter are both doing their retirement tour together. He's opening a baguette shop on the lower east side post retirement. Been a great run.

But let's give Elfrid Phucking Payton playing time. Idiot front office.

not really a fan of the Payton signing. Not a bad deal but...whatever. I get it. The team isn't standing still for Frank. Phil drafted him for the triangle...he never should have been allowed to make that pick if you were gonna fire him.

I agree Phil should have been canned, but Mills would have made the pick. Probably DSJ anyway, who has been a negative player as well. Or worse, Mills made 1 move on his solo creep and he had to dig his way out of it by trading a 21 year old All Star.

The triangle narrative is fake news BS, Frank's ceiling comp is Ron Harper or whatever is a better take. The NY Post would have you believe Frank was running triangle in France, he's never played it in his young life.

As for not standing still, I agree but then why stand still for re-tread failures like Mudiay and Payton? Play these picks 30-40 minutes and see if they develop. Fire your **** coaches if they can't bring player development to any of them. We are losing 60 games if you and me start, so why not start the players you have a SUNK COST in and see if you can develop them instead of bringing in Perry's Greatest Hits from his other **** drafts? It's more Dolan / Mills / Perry ... Cronyism.

[MaseInYourFace]

You guys really like to eat your young here. The thought of finding out what you all think of Knox scares me.

There has been a drought of youth on this team for decades. Rarely any talent and no one ever makes it to their 2nd contact. It's crazy how fast people give up on players.

Which one of the players warranted more patience?

It seems that folks love Mitch. Trier, Dotson and even Knox to a certain extent too.

Lol, I got what you were trying to say. Only era that kinda comes to mind like hey what would have happened if we kept those guys was the Lee, Nate, Gallinari, Chandler period. None of those guys was a difference maker though. Same for most before and after. Knicks didn’t really draft a definite difference maker until KP and even with him it’s still kinda up in the air where his career will go.

[Clyde_Style]

You named 1 good draft from a year ago... and Dotson. Knox gets plenty of hate. KP even had haters!!

Fact remains...this team has been devoid of young talent for decades...and none that were any good signed a 2nd deal...unless we wanna count the Trier and Dotson deals. Oh...and Charlie Ward was it? I'm still on team Frank. Don't @ me!!!

I think you missed my point entirely.

Possibly...I'm an idiot.

Spoiler:

Sorry, but you just begged for it

[MaseInYourFace]

You guys really like to eat your young here. The thought of finding out what you all think of Knox scares me.

Frank is prob the only young guy that Knicks fans are 50/50 on. You either hate him or love him

Knox is more like 70% love. 30% hate

I think Mitch gets the most love, almost universal. Every other young dude here I’d say they are 60/40 to 50/50 range.

[Jalen Bluntson]

I've heard he and Vince Carter are both doing their retirement tour together. He's opening a baguette shop on the lower east side post retirement. Been a great run.

But let's give Elfrid Phucking Payton playing time. Idiot front office.

not really a fan of the Payton signing. Not a bad deal but...whatever. I get it. The team isn't standing still for Frank. Phil drafted him for the triangle...he never should have been allowed to make that pick if you were gonna fire him.

I agree Phil should have been canned, but Mills would have made the pick. Probably DSJ anyway, who has been a negative player as well. Or worse, Mills made 1 move on his solo creep and he had to dig his way out of it by trading a 21 year old All Star.

The triangle narrative is fake news BS, Frank's ceiling comp is Ron Harper or whatever is a better take. The NY Post would have you believe Frank was running triangle in France, he's never played it in his young life.

As for not standing still, I agree but then why stand still for re-tread failures like Mudiay and Payton? Play these picks 30-40 minutes and see if they develop. Fire your **** coaches if they can't bring player development to any of them. We are losing 60 games if you and me start, so why not start the players you have a SUNK COST in and see if you can develop them instead of bringing in Perry's Greatest Hits from his other **** drafts? It's more Dolan / Mills / Perry ... Cronyism.

Frank was brought in to be a pass first defensive guard. Phil was trying to implement the triangle here. He drafted Frank. He was fired soon after. The triangle is gone. Fiz seems to want offensive PGs to drive/pentrate and score or kick out...or shoot open shots. Things Frank has been hesitant and bad at so far.

I do think Frank is not viewed as important to what's going on. So...he better play his way into the fold.

[Jalen Bluntson]

I think you missed my point entirely.

Possibly...I'm an idiot.

Spoiler:

Sorry, but you just begged for it

No need to apologize. It's fun being an idiot!

[MaseInYourFace]

not really a fan of the Payton signing. Not a bad deal but...whatever. I get it. The team isn't standing still for Frank. Phil drafted him for the triangle...he never should have been allowed to make that pick if you were gonna fire him.

I agree Phil should have been canned, but Mills would have made the pick. Probably DSJ anyway, who has been a negative player as well. Or worse, Mills made 1 move on his solo creep and he had to dig his way out of it by trading a 21 year old All Star.

The triangle narrative is fake news BS, Frank's ceiling comp is Ron Harper or whatever is a better take. The NY Post would have you believe Frank was running triangle in France, he's never played it in his young life.

As for not standing still, I agree but then why stand still for re-tread failures like Mudiay and Payton? Play these picks 30-40 minutes and see if they develop. Fire your **** coaches if they can't bring player development to any of them. We are losing 60 games if you and me start, so why not start the players you have a SUNK COST in and see if you can develop them instead of bringing in Perry's Greatest Hits from his other **** drafts? It's more Dolan / Mills / Perry ... Cronyism.

Frank was brought in to be a pass first defensive guard. Phil was trying to implement the triangle here. He drafted Frank. He was fired soon after. The triangle is gone. Fiz seems to want offensive PGs to drive/pentrate and score or kick out...or shoot open shots. Things Frank has been hesitant and bad at so far.

I do think Frank is not viewed as important to what's going on. So...he better play his way into the fold.

It was a bad pick no matter what because you don’t draft a defense first pass first type of guy that high in the draft. Especially not at guard/wing.

[Jalen Bluntson]

I agree Phil should have been canned, but Mills would have made the pick. Probably DSJ anyway, who has been a negative player as well. Or worse, Mills made 1 move on his solo creep and he had to dig his way out of it by trading a 21 year old All Star.

The triangle narrative is fake news BS, Frank's ceiling comp is Ron Harper or whatever is a better take. The NY Post would have you believe Frank was running triangle in France, he's never played it in his young life.

As for not standing still, I agree but then why stand still for re-tread failures like Mudiay and Payton? Play these picks 30-40 minutes and see if they develop. Fire your **** coaches if they can't bring player development to any of them. We are losing 60 games if you and me start, so why not start the players you have a SUNK COST in and see if you can develop them instead of bringing in Perry's Greatest Hits from his other **** drafts? It's more Dolan / Mills / Perry ... Cronyism.

Frank was brought in to be a pass first defensive guard. Phil was trying to implement the triangle here. He drafted Frank. He was fired soon after. The triangle is gone. Fiz seems to want offensive PGs to drive/pentrate and score or kick out...or shoot open shots. Things Frank has been hesitant and bad at so far.

I do think Frank is not viewed as important to what's going on. So...he better play his way into the fold.

It was a bad pick no matter what because you don’t draft a defense first pass first type of guy that high in the draft. Especially not at guard/wing.

I'm not arguing the quality of the pick. Hearing we would have taken Donovan Mitchell doesn't help either. Most wanted DSJ so...he's here now. It is what it is. I believe Frank will find a role in the league. Not sure it will be here.

[Clyde_Style]

Possibly...I'm an idiot.

Spoiler:

Sorry, but you just begged for it

No need to apologize. It's fun being an idiot!

[Fat Kat]

This French guy needs to shut up

I agree with you french knicks pod needs to shut up he is too much off homer.

The problem with FrenchPod dude comes when he attacks every perceived threat to Frank’s playing time, coach included. Nothing could ever be Frank’s fault. We saw the same thing with Lin fans. They were never Knicks fans and barely basketball fans. They don’t want the team to do well if their guy isn’t playing, and playing well.

[nedleeds]

Frank was brought in to be a pass first defensive guard. Phil was trying to implement the triangle here. He drafted Frank. He was fired soon after. The triangle is gone. Fiz seems to want offensive PGs to drive/pentrate and score or kick out...or shoot open shots. Things Frank has been hesitant and bad at so far.

I do think Frank is not viewed as important to what's going on. So...he better play his way into the fold.

It was a bad pick no matter what because you don’t draft a defense first pass first type of guy that high in the draft. Especially not at guard/wing.

I'm not arguing the quality of the pick. Hearing we would have taken Donovan Mitchell doesn't help either. Most wanted DSJ so...he's here now. It is what it is. I believe Frank will find a role in the league. Not sure it will be here.

We all agree it wasn't a great pick, my point is we're losing 60 games if we start a homeless man at PG/SG or whatever. I'd rather play Frank who we *need* to make an option decision on then a turd like Payton or Mudiay or **** Mario. Those minutes were WASTED minutes because Perry wants to pull his dick out and say "see ...". He's a clown. Mills is a clown. Dolan is a clown lord.

[Knicksfan1992]

I agree Phil should have been canned, but Mills would have made the pick. Probably DSJ anyway, who has been a negative player as well. Or worse, Mills made 1 move on his solo creep and he had to dig his way out of it by trading a 21 year old All Star.

The triangle narrative is fake news BS, Frank's ceiling comp is Ron Harper or whatever is a better take. The NY Post would have you believe Frank was running triangle in France, he's never played it in his young life.

As for not standing still, I agree but then why stand still for re-tread failures like Mudiay and Payton? Play these picks 30-40 minutes and see if they develop. Fire your **** coaches if they can't bring player development to any of them. We are losing 60 games if you and me start, so why not start the players you have a SUNK COST in and see if you can develop them instead of bringing in Perry's Greatest Hits from his other **** drafts? It's more Dolan / Mills / Perry ... Cronyism.

Frank was brought in to be a pass first defensive guard. Phil was trying to implement the triangle here. He drafted Frank. He was fired soon after. The triangle is gone. Fiz seems to want offensive PGs to drive/pentrate and score or kick out...or shoot open shots. Things Frank has been hesitant and bad at so far.

I do think Frank is not viewed as important to what's going on. So...he better play his way into the fold.

It was a bad pick no matter what because you don’t draft a defense first pass first type of guy that high in the draft. Especially not at guard/wing.

Honestly I think Frank was a safe pick. As a prospect his biggest strengths were obviously defense, shooting form, and feel. The problem continues to be that his shooting touch has not translated. Not having an ability to shoot at least at an average clip off the dribble or as a spot up guy makes the rest of his offensive skill irrelevant because he's not getting into the lane without a hard close out as his first step/burst is really slow for a point guard. He can't beat any normal sized guard from a stand still which is why I continually say he needs to be a wing. That's where his athleticism lines up best with his skill level offensively. Defensively you can play him anywhere,but I also think people overrate his impact on that end too. It's more of a product of how bad most of the Knicks personnel has been on that end that makes him stand out as much as he does. For example Mitch has way more of an impact on a defense IMO than Frank will ever have and he's not a total minus offensively output-wise.