Why did Kyrie run away from Tatum and Brown?

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Re: Why did Kyrie run away from Tatum and Brown? 

Post#81 » by MagicBagley18 » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:07 pm

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you say im wrong.. go on to describe exactly what i said confirming it, then say im biased, when you are the one who is a fan of the team and cant handle the reality.

also, 100% of what i said about Kyrie has been true. even when you and the rest of the realGM celtics group called me a moron for saying 0.0% chance he stays and even when i pointed out kyries words in the offseason/ST meeting was just lip service.

but hey, i guess i guess you can continue to be the psychiatrist and ill just continue having everythign i say on the matter come to fruition


I never said he was staying, so again stop with lumping me in with a fan base and lumping in a fan base with your opinions or your experiences with a segment of Celtics fans or experiences living there. I have confirmed nothing of what you said as true other than acknowledging that ray Allen was vilified- you said look at all the players that have left Boston and how they were treated (badly by your opinion) and it’s not true. Flat out wrong.

You speak as if you are an authority on the Celtics locker room (you aren’t ) or you broke news (you didn’t ) or you’re a source for realgm posters on the pulse of all of Boston and it’s fanbase (you’re not )
I’m no authority either but You predicted that kyrie would leave- so did most of the mainstream media. Congrats on your big scoop.

Stephen a said it, nick wright said it, windhorst, on and on and on- this doesn’t make you some plugged in source. It makes you capable of regurgitating opinions others actually report and running with it like your own because you have 3rd and 4th hand kyrie information based off Someone in his circle from AAU days from what I gather off the Celtics board.

In terms of reality what can’t I handle? That the media for Boston like many major cities is tough? (What a genius revelation) Even more so in Boston because of past team success (and Red Sox and pats success) which sets the bar higher? That they have a passionate fan base? (Shocking) That kyrie left and didn’t like living in Boston or being with young players?

I concede all that to you. It still doesn’t make what you’re saying fact and it doesn’t allow you to cast the ENTIRE fan base and city and people who attend they’re games as a barometer for everyone whose in the media or rooting for them. I also don’t hold the entire nets fanbase personal for a few bad apples or dopes.


its more then "a few bad apples" its the media... all the major players. mcadams, felger, mazz, shaugnessey, rich, big o, keefe, jones, bertrand, murray macmullin....

the fans who attend the games, the fans who call into the radio, the fans who watch the games in bars around the city. unless 100% of the fans who stay at home, watch and chime in nowhere else are all super supportive then im pretty spot on. Also, allen was the exception, he is more the rule. and it isnt just the celtics. bruins and redsox too. pats less so, but more because they dont really have many big names other then brady whose been there for 100 years.

maybe im generalizing realgm C's fans and projecting that on to you. but the majority refuse to move beyond bias. it similar to the "is boston racist" conversations that kept getting locked despite me speaking extremely intelligently on the matter and providing sources and resources to move the discussion forward... including the globes spotlight look into the very question is bostons racist reputation fair.


You’re from Boston and your making a rebuttal to my argument by referencing “felger and mezz” come on now....they are the bottom barrel of the media and so is most of terrestrial sports talk radio man and you know this....

Come on. Even though we bump heads it’s all in a friendly back and forth but you know damn well you’re better than that haha.
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Re: Why did Kyrie run away from Tatum and Brown? 

Post#82 » by GeorgeMarcus » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:17 pm

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GeorgeMarcus wrote:Anybody that thinks Tatum is a present “superstar” should be publicly reprimanded

Is that like thinking that a guy who doesn't know how to shoot a ball from more than 8 feet out is going to be a superstar? :lol:


Saying a present All-Star will be a future superstar sounds more reasonable than calling a non All-Star a present superstar. No?
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Re: Why did Kyrie run away from Tatum and Brown? 

Post#83 » by Prokorov » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:19 pm

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I never said he was staying, so again stop with lumping me in with a fan base and lumping in a fan base with your opinions or your experiences with a segment of Celtics fans or experiences living there. I have confirmed nothing of what you said as true other than acknowledging that ray Allen was vilified- you said look at all the players that have left Boston and how they were treated (badly by your opinion) and it’s not true. Flat out wrong.

You speak as if you are an authority on the Celtics locker room (you aren’t ) or you broke news (you didn’t ) or you’re a source for realgm posters on the pulse of all of Boston and it’s fanbase (you’re not )
I’m no authority either but You predicted that kyrie would leave- so did most of the mainstream media. Congrats on your big scoop.

Stephen a said it, nick wright said it, windhorst, on and on and on- this doesn’t make you some plugged in source. It makes you capable of regurgitating opinions others actually report and running with it like your own because you have 3rd and 4th hand kyrie information based off Someone in his circle from AAU days from what I gather off the Celtics board.

In terms of reality what can’t I handle? That the media for Boston like many major cities is tough? (What a genius revelation) Even more so in Boston because of past team success (and Red Sox and pats success) which sets the bar higher? That they have a passionate fan base? (Shocking) That kyrie left and didn’t like living in Boston or being with young players?

I concede all that to you. It still doesn’t make what you’re saying fact and it doesn’t allow you to cast the ENTIRE fan base and city and people who attend they’re games as a barometer for everyone whose in the media or rooting for them. I also don’t hold the entire nets fanbase personal for a few bad apples or dopes.


its more then "a few bad apples" its the media... all the major players. mcadams, felger, mazz, shaugnessey, rich, big o, keefe, jones, bertrand, murray macmullin....

the fans who attend the games, the fans who call into the radio, the fans who watch the games in bars around the city. unless 100% of the fans who stay at home, watch and chime in nowhere else are all super supportive then im pretty spot on. Also, allen was the exception, he is more the rule. and it isnt just the celtics. bruins and redsox too. pats less so, but more because they dont really have many big names other then brady whose been there for 100 years.

maybe im generalizing realgm C's fans and projecting that on to you. but the majority refuse to move beyond bias. it similar to the "is boston racist" conversations that kept getting locked despite me speaking extremely intelligently on the matter and providing sources and resources to move the discussion forward... including the globes spotlight look into the very question is bostons racist reputation fair.


You’re from Boston and your making a rebuttal to my argument by referencing “felger and mezz” come on now....they are the bottom barrel of the media and so is most of terrestrial sports talk radio man and you know this....

Come on. Even though we bump heads it’s all in a friendly back and forth but you know damn well you’re better than that haha.


i said all the major players... that includes them. they have the highest radio radio shot in the most primetime slot. them and their listerrs are relevent whether they are hacks or not. if you think they are bottom of the barrell thats kind of my point
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Re: Why did Kyrie run away from Tatum and Brown? 

Post#84 » by Prokorov » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:20 pm

GeorgeMarcus wrote:
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GeorgeMarcus wrote:Anybody that thinks Tatum is a present “superstar” should be publicly reprimanded

Is that like thinking that a guy who doesn't know how to shoot a ball from more than 8 feet out is going to be a superstar? :lol:


Saying a present All-Star will be a future superstar sounds more reasonable than calling a non All-Star a present superstar. No?


The worst thing to happen to rozier/tatum/brown was that playoffr un. it got their heads big and got their expectations overhyped. they are inevitably going to fall short
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Re: Why did Kyrie run away from Tatum and Brown? 

Post#85 » by MagicBagley18 » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:28 pm

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its more then "a few bad apples" its the media... all the major players. mcadams, felger, mazz, shaugnessey, rich, big o, keefe, jones, bertrand, murray macmullin....

the fans who attend the games, the fans who call into the radio, the fans who watch the games in bars around the city. unless 100% of the fans who stay at home, watch and chime in nowhere else are all super supportive then im pretty spot on. Also, allen was the exception, he is more the rule. and it isnt just the celtics. bruins and redsox too. pats less so, but more because they dont really have many big names other then brady whose been there for 100 years.

maybe im generalizing realgm C's fans and projecting that on to you. but the majority refuse to move beyond bias. it similar to the "is boston racist" conversations that kept getting locked despite me speaking extremely intelligently on the matter and providing sources and resources to move the discussion forward... including the globes spotlight look into the very question is bostons racist reputation fair.


You’re from Boston and your making a rebuttal to my argument by referencing “felger and mezz” come on now....they are the bottom barrel of the media and so is most of terrestrial sports talk radio man and you know this....

Come on. Even though we bump heads it’s all in a friendly back and forth but you know damn well you’re better than that haha.


i said all the major players... that includes them. they have the highest radio radio shot in the most primetime slot. them and their listerrs are relevent whether they are hacks or not. if you think they are bottom of the barrell thats kind of my point


I can list several “news” organization with great ratings who spew an agenda or biased opinions or allow certain points on air over others to start conversation. I can name 5 New York radio guys who are dopes but get great ratings and more print writers with the same thing.

The point remains, while yes in ANY fanbase there will be idiot fans and yes in EVERY market there will be hack journalists who are relevant it doesn’t taint the whole field and it doesn’t add credence to you saying that Boston is particular vile when it comes to players who leave.
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Re: Why did Kyrie run away from Tatum and Brown? 

Post#86 » by MagicBagley18 » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:30 pm

Prokorov wrote:
GeorgeMarcus wrote:
Joshyjess wrote:Is that like thinking that a guy who doesn't know how to shoot a ball from more than 8 feet out is going to be a superstar? :lol:


Saying a present All-Star will be a future superstar sounds more reasonable than calling a non All-Star a present superstar. No?


The worst thing to happen to rozier/tatum/brown was that playoffr un. it got their heads big and got their expectations overhyped. they are inevitably going to fall short


This we can agree on. It gave them a sense of “accomplishment “ when in reality they had accomplished nothing and that was a huge disconnect with kyrie and them. It also doesn’t mean they won’t pan out as great players (at least Tatum IMO) because they failed to meet unrealistic expectations set on them in the 1st place.
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Re: Why did Kyrie run away from Tatum and Brown? 

Post#87 » by Not2BeBothered » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:39 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:Nets fans will discover the truth soon enough. No point in spelling it out for them, because they are not ready to listen.



Please spell it out for us. If the Nets run the same exact offense but replace Dlo with Kyrie, they are a much better team. It’s not like we’ll be missing Dlo’s defensive prowess. So far Kyrie has done and said all the right things since signing with the Nets, he chose to be here.
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Re: Why did Kyrie run away from Tatum and Brown? 

Post#88 » by MagicBagley18 » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:58 pm

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Curmudgeon wrote:Nets fans will discover the truth soon enough. No point in spelling it out for them, because they are not ready to listen.



Please spell it out for us. If the Nets run the same exact offense but replace Dlo with Kyrie, they are a much better team. It’s not like we’ll be missing Dlo’s defensive prowess. So far Kyrie has done and said all the right things since signing with the Nets, he chose to be here.


I wish you guys all the success in the world....kyries dysfunctional perception has very little to do with anything in regards to his on court play. He’s a phenomenal basketball player.
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Post#89 » by Curmudgeon » Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:58 pm

Yep, he's a phenominal individual talent who sucks the air out of the players around him. He's so skilled that they just stand around and marvel at his ability to dribble. And dribble. And dribble.
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Re: Why did Kyrie run away from Tatum and Brown? 

Post#90 » by Bankai » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:34 pm

Irving just wanted to run away from the responsibilities of being a Team Leader and its best Player. He is now the 2nd Banana in Brooklyn behind Durant where he is meant to be.
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Re: Why did Kyrie run away from Tatum and Brown? 

Post#91 » by Curmudgeon » Fri Aug 23, 2019 12:22 am

Not2BeBothered wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:Nets fans will discover the truth soon enough. No point in spelling it out for them, because they are not ready to listen.



Please spell it out for us. If the Nets run the same exact offense but replace Dlo with Kyrie, they are a much better team. It’s not like we’ll be missing Dlo’s defensive prowess. So far Kyrie has done and said all the right things since signing with the Nets, he chose to be here.


You aren't ready to hear it. Around the middle of February when the team is around .500 and the grumbling begins, the threads will start popping up on the Nets forum. The fans will blame everyone except Uncle Drew, because his individual stats will be right up there and he'll be an all-star. It's the team that won't be doing so well.

When Durant returns, maybe things will be different.
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Re: Why did Kyrie run away from Tatum and Brown? 

Post#92 » by Prokorov » Fri Aug 23, 2019 1:15 am

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You’re from Boston and your making a rebuttal to my argument by referencing “felger and mezz” come on now....they are the bottom barrel of the media and so is most of terrestrial sports talk radio man and you know this....

Come on. Even though we bump heads it’s all in a friendly back and forth but you know damn well you’re better than that haha.


i said all the major players... that includes them. they have the highest radio radio shot in the most primetime slot. them and their listerrs are relevent whether they are hacks or not. if you think they are bottom of the barrell thats kind of my point


I can list several “news” organization with great ratings who spew an agenda or biased opinions or allow certain points on air over others to start conversation. I can name 5 New York radio guys who are dopes but get great ratings and more print writers with the same thing.

The point remains, while yes in ANY fanbase there will be idiot fans and yes in EVERY market there will be hack journalists who are relevant it doesn’t taint the whole field and it doesn’t add credence to you saying that Boston is particular vile when it comes to players who leave.


its not a few jack reporters or a few fans

its nearly every major radio personality and writer, the fans who attend the games, the fan who call in, and the fans who go to sportsbars. every city has some of this, boston is among the worst if not the worst hwen it comes to dragging players through the mud when they dont leave on bostons terms
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Post#93 » by Prokorov » Fri Aug 23, 2019 1:17 am

Curmudgeon wrote:Yep, he's a phenominal individual talent who sucks the air out of the players around him. He's so skilled that they just stand around and marvel at his ability to dribble. And dribble. And dribble.


well good luck because by the numbers kemba spends more time dribbling and shooting with less playmaking
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Post#94 » by Prokorov » Fri Aug 23, 2019 1:18 am

Curmudgeon wrote:
Not2BeBothered wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:Nets fans will discover the truth soon enough. No point in spelling it out for them, because they are not ready to listen.



Please spell it out for us. If the Nets run the same exact offense but replace Dlo with Kyrie, they are a much better team. It’s not like we’ll be missing Dlo’s defensive prowess. So far Kyrie has done and said all the right things since signing with the Nets, he chose to be here.


You aren't ready to hear it. Around the middle of February when the team is around .500 and the grumbling begins, the threads will start popping up on the Nets forum. The fans will blame everyone except Uncle Drew, because his individual stats will be right up there and he'll be an all-star. It's the team that won't be doing so well.

When Durant returns, maybe things will be different.


if the nets are .500 in February the fans will be ecstatic.
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Post#95 » by Curmudgeon » Fri Aug 23, 2019 1:32 am

Prokorov wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:
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Please spell it out for us. If the Nets run the same exact offense but replace Dlo with Kyrie, they are a much better team. It’s not like we’ll be missing Dlo’s defensive prowess. So far Kyrie has done and said all the right things since signing with the Nets, he chose to be here.


You aren't ready to hear it. Around the middle of February when the team is around .500 and the grumbling begins, the threads will start popping up on the Nets forum. The fans will blame everyone except Uncle Drew, because his individual stats will be right up there and he'll be an all-star. It's the team that won't be doing so well.

When Durant returns, maybe things will be different.


if the nets are .500 in February the fans will be ecstatic.


You are absolutely correct to have low expectations.
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Post#96 » by Prokorov » Fri Aug 23, 2019 2:18 am

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You aren't ready to hear it. Around the middle of February when the team is around .500 and the grumbling begins, the threads will start popping up on the Nets forum. The fans will blame everyone except Uncle Drew, because his individual stats will be right up there and he'll be an all-star. It's the team that won't be doing so well.

When Durant returns, maybe things will be different.


if the nets are .500 in February the fans will be ecstatic.


You are absolutely correct to have low expectations.


my expectations are high... 50+ wins and a floor of 44 if thing go south.

nets fans will sitll be happy with .500 and playoffs. we arent fickle and have been through too much for .500 to rattle us
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Post#97 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Aug 23, 2019 2:22 am

Curmudgeon wrote:
Not2BeBothered wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:Nets fans will discover the truth soon enough. No point in spelling it out for them, because they are not ready to listen.



Please spell it out for us. If the Nets run the same exact offense but replace Dlo with Kyrie, they are a much better team. It’s not like we’ll be missing Dlo’s defensive prowess. So far Kyrie has done and said all the right things since signing with the Nets, he chose to be here.


You aren't ready to hear it. Around the middle of February when the team is around .500 and the grumbling begins, the threads will start popping up on the Nets forum. The fans will blame everyone except Uncle Drew, because his individual stats will be right up there and he'll be an all-star. It's the team that won't be doing so well.

When Durant returns, maybe things will be different.



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Post#98 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Aug 23, 2019 2:23 am

Curmudgeon wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:
You aren't ready to hear it. Around the middle of February when the team is around .500 and the grumbling begins, the threads will start popping up on the Nets forum. The fans will blame everyone except Uncle Drew, because his individual stats will be right up there and he'll be an all-star. It's the team that won't be doing so well.

When Durant returns, maybe things will be different.


if the nets are .500 in February the fans will be ecstatic.


You are absolutely correct to have low expectations.


You might want to lower your expectations on your own team before you start telling us this ****.
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Post#99 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Aug 23, 2019 2:24 am

Prokorov wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:
Not2BeBothered wrote:

Please spell it out for us. If the Nets run the same exact offense but replace Dlo with Kyrie, they are a much better team. It’s not like we’ll be missing Dlo’s defensive prowess. So far Kyrie has done and said all the right things since signing with the Nets, he chose to be here.


You aren't ready to hear it. Around the middle of February when the team is around .500 and the grumbling begins, the threads will start popping up on the Nets forum. The fans will blame everyone except Uncle Drew, because his individual stats will be right up there and he'll be an all-star. It's the team that won't be doing so well.

When Durant returns, maybe things will be different.


if the nets are .500 in February the fans will be ecstatic.


We'll be fine and I think frankly we'll have one of the better records in the east at that time based on schedule alone. But let these Celtics fans keep chirping. They sound like angry exes right now.

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Post#100 » by jimmy_smith » Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:53 am

He's avoid the bricks these two keep throwing.
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