RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#25 2019-20

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RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#25 2019-20

Poll ended at Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:40 pm

Kevin Durant (BKN)
7
4%
Donovan Mitchell (UTA)
48
27%
Victor Oladipo (IND)
20
11%
Chris Paul (OKC)
57
32%
LaMarcus Aldridge (SAS)
0
No votes
Mike Conley (UTA)
8
4%
CJ McCollum (POR)
11
6%
DeMar DeRozan (SAS)
10
6%
Nikola Vucevic (ORL)
10
6%
Klay Thompson (GSW)
8
4%
 
Total votes: 179

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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#25 2019-20 

Post#41 » by Richard4444 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:49 am

Lets go to Top 50. I want to see a Knick get elected!!!

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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#25 2019-20 

Post#42 » by baldur » Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:04 am

Let's go for top 50.
please please please.
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#25 2019-20 

Post#43 » by Gooner » Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:51 am

Donovan Mitchell is so disrespected for some reason. By far the best offensive player on a strong western conference team, weird. Chris Paul is finished, and he plays for a awful team... makes no sense.
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#25 2019-20 

Post#44 » by Roddy B for 3 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:15 am

iggymcfrack wrote:
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iggymcfrack wrote:

I think it's pretty close in terms of regular season value. I also think I'd much rather have Paul in the playoffs in that scenario since there's a better than 58/77 chance that Paul will stay healthy through the playoffs when he's not just taking time off for every minor injury to save himself for the games that matter and he gives your team a much higher ceiling when he does play.


I'd be better at my job if I worked 3 days a week instead of 5 too.

Chris Paul not staying healthy in the postseason is one of the biggest knocks on his career.

I think 19/30 teams would be better adding Mitchell instead of Paul and 11/30 would be better with Paul than Mitchell.

I don't mean to come of as a CP3 hater. I'm just trying to say he misses alot of games. Plays a position with high replacement value. Has a "super role player" skill set.

Donovan is, in my opinion, a tier 2 #1 scorer (which I see as a more valuable skill set). Donovan has been an iron man so far in his young NBA career. And plays a position with less depth league wide.

Do you think more than half of the teams on the NBA would prefer CP3 for next year only over Donovan Mitchell?


I’d say on teams contending for a championship, Paul >>> Mitchell

On teams fighting for the 8 seed, Mitchell > Paul

On teams that are gonna be in the lottery anyway, they’re the same because those teams don’t care about next year anyway. If you wanna say the Knicks would win 28 games with Mitchell and 26 with Paul, OK great, but I don’t really think that’s super relevant to who the better player is.

I'm honestly not trying to argue. I'm just trying to communicate my point.

When I sort players by best overall I think of it like an NBA 2k fantasy draft, for one year. Who would I pick first.

CP3 is a glue guy at this stage and is a great #3 for title contenders for teams (like you said) with the #25 pick in a 2K draft your not a title contender based on any singular players brilliance.

Maybe it's a snake draft and you pick up CP3 at pick 25 and get someone he compliments well at pick 35.

But with Mitchell you get your building block at 25 and you hope a guy like Conley, Lowry, Fox, Paul, Morant, Brogdan, Holiday, Murray, McCollum, Beverly, etc. Are there at 35 or later.

I do think CP3 on a per minute basis is still near the top of that list though.
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Post#45 » by notericjr » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:20 am

i believe chris paul is the logical choice. he is a fantastic point guard
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#25 2019-20 

Post#46 » by THE J0KER » Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:47 am

baldur wrote:Let's go for top 50.
please please please.

Instead TOP50 players, better stop at TOP25 as title says, and start with polls about RealGM teams 2019-20 ranking projection.

I think first 10 option for poll#1 should include MIL PHI LAC LAL DEN HOU UTA BOS GSW POR
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Post#47 » by Waylanderz » Sun Aug 25, 2019 12:01 pm

Voting CP3 here. Was thinking of joining the Durant train just for laughs ...
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Post#48 » by Waylanderz » Sun Aug 25, 2019 12:02 pm

THE J0KER wrote:
baldur wrote:Let's go for top 50.
please please please.

Instead TOP50 players, better stop at TOP25 as title says, and start with polls about RealGM teams 2019-20 ranking projection.

I think first 10 option for poll#1 should include MIL PHI LAC LAL DEN HOU UTA BOS GSW POR


You should have 9 options and another one call Others. #WeTheOthers :wink:
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#25 2019-20 

Post#49 » by Duffman100 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 12:04 pm

Roddy B for 3 wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
Roddy B for 3 wrote:After Pascal and Lowry I'm assuming Gasol will get this #25 spot.


Or maybe it's possible that a championship team had multiple players in the top 25. Crazy thing I know.



Or maybe they had a top 3 guy and two 25-40 guys as well as a deep well fitting roster? Maybe they were a buzzer beater in a game 7 away from losing in the 2nd round? Maybe they would have lost to GSW even without KD if Klay didn't get hurt?

Drummond, Porzingis or Booker > Pascal or Lowry imo


That's laughable and tells me you don't really know what it takes to win basketball games.

Booker has more impact that Kyle Lowry. C'mon man, give your head a shake.
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#25 2019-20 

Post#50 » by THE J0KER » Sun Aug 25, 2019 2:05 pm

Waylanderz wrote:
THE J0KER wrote:
baldur wrote:Let's go for top 50.
please please please.

Instead TOP50 players, better stop at TOP25 as title says, and start with polls about RealGM teams 2019-20 ranking projection.

I think first 10 option for poll#1 should include MIL PHI LAC LAL DEN HOU UTA BOS GSW POR


You should have 9 options and another one call Others. #WeTheOthers :wink:
Not in this kind of voting. In poll#1 together with voting, members will nominate team which deserves to join in poll#2 to be a member of next 10-option poll for 2nd best team for the upcoming season... etc...
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#25 2019-20 

Post#51 » by iggymcfrack » Sun Aug 25, 2019 2:13 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
Roddy B for 3 wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
Or maybe it's possible that a championship team had multiple players in the top 25. Crazy thing I know.



Or maybe they had a top 3 guy and two 25-40 guys as well as a deep well fitting roster? Maybe they were a buzzer beater in a game 7 away from losing in the 2nd round? Maybe they would have lost to GSW even without KD if Klay didn't get hurt?

Drummond, Porzingis or Booker > Pascal or Lowry imo


That's laughable and tells me you don't really know what it takes to win basketball games.

Booker has more impact that Kyle Lowry. C'mon man, give your head a shake.


I’d take Siakam OR Lowry over Drummond AND Booker combined.
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Post#52 » by zimpy27 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 4:17 pm

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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#25 2019-20 

Post#53 » by Roddy B for 3 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:11 pm

iggymcfrack wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
Roddy B for 3 wrote:

Or maybe they had a top 3 guy and two 25-40 guys as well as a deep well fitting roster? Maybe they were a buzzer beater in a game 7 away from losing in the 2nd round? Maybe they would have lost to GSW even without KD if Klay didn't get hurt?

Drummond, Porzingis or Booker > Pascal or Lowry imo


That's laughable and tells me you don't really know what it takes to win basketball games.

Booker has more impact that Kyle Lowry. C'mon man, give your head a shake.


I’d take Siakam OR Lowry over Drummond AND Booker combined.

Cool story bro.

You said you were done responding to me at 8:05am and at 2:13pm you respond again..
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Post#54 » by Tim Kempton » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:49 pm

Vote: CJ McCollum
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#25 2019-20 

Post#55 » by Alatan » Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:37 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
Roddy B for 3 wrote:After Pascal and Lowry I'm assuming Gasol will get this #25 spot.


Or maybe it's possible that a championship team had multiple players in the top 25. Crazy thing I know.


Or maybe the real championship team had multiple season ending injuries to its best players.

Im starting to hate that your team won the championship.
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#25 2019-20 

Post#56 » by Duffman100 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:41 pm

Alatan wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
Roddy B for 3 wrote:After Pascal and Lowry I'm assuming Gasol will get this #25 spot.


Or maybe it's possible that a championship team had multiple players in the top 25. Crazy thing I know.


Or maybe the real championship team had multiple season ending injuries to its best players.

Im starting to hate that your team won the championship.



Sure. Many teams have won titles because of favorable events.

We will went through Orlando, Philly and Milwaukee. Had the hardest playoff path. It isn't all about the GS series.
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Post#57 » by mademan » Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:43 pm

Alatan wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
Roddy B for 3 wrote:After Pascal and Lowry I'm assuming Gasol will get this #25 spot.


Or maybe it's possible that a championship team had multiple players in the top 25. Crazy thing I know.


Or maybe the real championship team had multiple season ending injuries to its best players.

Im starting to hate that your team won the championship.


Ya'll really upset that Lowry and Siakam can be considered top 25 players? You honestly think thats ridiculous? The poster Duff replied to said that Porzingis is better than both Lowry and Siakam. Considering Dallas will have 2 players better than the Raps best, there's no reason for them to be a worse team (even when accounting for conference), and i'd imagine the smart bet is that they will be. How do you reconcile that?

And you realize even with the injuries, the Raps beat the next 2 best teams in the NBA with Philly post trades and Milwaukee. Impressove, especially when very few 'experts' had them coming out of the East
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Post#58 » by Alatan » Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:47 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
Alatan wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
Or maybe it's possible that a championship team had multiple players in the top 25. Crazy thing I know.


Or maybe the real championship team had multiple season ending injuries to its best players.

Im starting to hate that your team won the championship.



Sure. Many teams have won titles because of favorable events.

We will went through Orlando, Philly and Milwaukee. Had the hardest playoff path. It isn't all about the GS series.[/quote

You dont need more than one top 25 player to go through Phili or Milwaukee. Case and point.

Face it neither Lowry nor Siakam are top 25 players in the real world. You will see it next season when Siakam goes back to being a nobody and Lowry falls of a cliff.
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Post#59 » by Duffman100 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:50 pm

Alatan wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
Alatan wrote:
Or maybe the real championship team had multiple season ending injuries to its best players.

Im starting to hate that your team won the championship.



Sure. Many teams have won titles because of favorable events.

We will went through Orlando, Philly and Milwaukee. Had the hardest playoff path. It isn't all about the GS series.[/quote

You dont need more than one top 25 player to go through Phili or Milwaukee. Case and point.

Face it neither Lowry nor Siakam are top 25 players in the real world. You will see it next season when Siakam goes back to being a nobody and Lowry falls of a cliff.


:lol: alright. You're clearly a troll.
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Re: RealGM Top 25 Player Poll-#25 2019-20 

Post#60 » by Roddy B for 3 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:28 pm

mademan wrote:
Alatan wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
Or maybe it's possible that a championship team had multiple players in the top 25. Crazy thing I know.


Or maybe the real championship team had multiple season ending injuries to its best players.

Im starting to hate that your team won the championship.


Ya'll really upset that Lowry and Siakam can be considered top 25 players? You honestly think thats ridiculous? The poster Duff replied to said that Porzingis is better than both Lowry and Siakam. Considering Dallas will have 2 players better than the Raps best, there's no reason for them to be a worse team (even when accounting for conference), and i'd imagine the smart bet is that they will be. How do you reconcile that?

And you realize even with the injuries, the Raps beat the next 2 best teams in the NBA with Philly post trades and Milwaukee. Impressove, especially when very few 'experts' had them coming out of the East


Whaaa whaaa people don't agree with me that Siakim and Lowry are too 25 players whaa whaa

What kind of silly argument is it that the team with the best two players is automatically the better team?

If your going to ask questions put thought into them.

Dallas has the better top two but 3-15 favors Raptors pretty handily. The Raptors also have chemistry from playing together. The Raptors are also in the easier conference.

What annoys me about Lowry and Siakam getting into the top 25 is they weren't looking like they would make it into the top 25 and then Raptors fans make a concerted effort to change the results.

Like if a bunch of Lakers fans used their numbers to have Kobe put onto the top 5 list.

I wouldn't say I'm upset. I'm just going to tell y'all y'all are wrong.

And you can come at me with weak questions like "if Dallas has the better top two players how come people expect them to be worse?????".

But that's a weak question. Because uhmm uhmm basketball isn't 2 vs 2

Or that other guy who disagreed with 1 of the 11 players I said play PG as well as Lowry or better.

He highlights ONE name and dismisses everything. So he agreed their are 10other PGs of similar ability to Lowry?

You guys are cry babies

Look how I get into with one Raptor fan and then I ended up getting quotes by about 5 different of you.

Y'all were a 50+ win team for about half a decade. Then traded one of your franchises most loyal and products players ever, for come year rental of an MVP contender.

Your team almost lost in the second round and then beat the regular season win leaders and the actual MVP in the ECF. In the finals your team played against the best dynasty since MJ but that team was missing it's (arguably) best and third best players. Their starting 5 missed most of the series and their backup 5 played through a broken collar bone.

Toronto won the series.

Toronto had:
Above average starting 5/great backup 5
Above average starting 4/???
MVP contender starting 3/???
Average to above average starting 2/???
Top 10 PG/great backup PG

And that's how you squeaked by Phiillly, beat Milwaukee, and beat injured Warriors

Congratulations bon beating Orlando too. Only about 14 teams could've done that last year.
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