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Post#2241 » by Oakville_Raptor » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:17 am

Men against boys against the US...Canada is terrible.
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Post#2242 » by Jstock12 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:19 am

Oakville_Raptor wrote:Men against boys against the US...Canada is terrible.


Pangos needs to be more of a focal point with his offensive skills.
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Post#2243 » by OntZags » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:28 am

Oakville_Raptor wrote:Men against boys against the US...Canada is terrible.


I'm gonna disagree. I know the first quarter shooting was atrocious but I thought they played reasonable.

The defense has been strong on the whole and much stronger than I anticipated with this particular group.

They got plenty of reasonable looks that just didn't go down. It happens. Better to get a cold shooting night out of the way in a meaningless game.

Everybody knows this is far from Canada's top squad. But they've got more than a punchers' to get out of group. They'll just need at least 1 hot shooting night.
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Post#2244 » by RaptorHusky » Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:01 am

OntZags wrote:
Oakville_Raptor wrote:Men against boys against the US...Canada is terrible.


I'm gonna disagree. I know the first quarter shooting was atrocious but I thought they played reasonable.

The defense has been strong on the whole and much stronger than I anticipated with this particular group.

They got plenty of reasonable looks that just didn't go down. It happens. Better to get a cold shooting night out of the way in a meaningless game.

Everybody knows this is far from Canada's top squad. But they've got more than a punchers' to get out of group. They'll just need at least 1 hot shooting night.


Not only shooting - 4 AST over 24 mins is far from nice to see. You can't beat even actual level USA without moving damn ball
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Post#2245 » by WellYouKnow » Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:37 am

Wiltjer needs to start. Hes a legitimate offensive talent and if they're not collectively shooting the lights out from 3 they are gonna struggle offensively


The defense really wasn't that bad today but there was just so many missed shots and turnovers that they never had a chance.

Feel like they lost their confidence during that horrendous shooting slump in the 1st and never fully recovered. They're kinda lucky the score differential wasn't alot bigger
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Post#2246 » by RaptorHusky » Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:11 pm

WellYouKnow wrote:Wiltjer needs to start. Hes a legitimate offensive talent and if they're not collectively shooting the lights out from 3 they are gonna struggle offensively


The defense really wasn't that bad today but there was just so many missed shots and turnovers that they never had a chance.

Feel like they lost their confidence during that horrendous shooting slump in the 1st and never fully recovered. They're kinda lucky the score differential wasn't alot bigger


Wiltjer can't defend lighting pole and is lazy on rebounding. I doubt that starting him is a good idea.

Pangos has to stop incarnating in FVV or CoJo with his dribbles over 15-20 seconds. He still keeps Zags' record for 3's made so why the hell he doesn't shoot even when wide open?
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Post#2247 » by WellYouKnow » Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:18 pm

RaptorHusky wrote:
WellYouKnow wrote:Wiltjer needs to start. Hes a legitimate offensive talent and if they're not collectively shooting the lights out from 3 they are gonna struggle offensively


The defense really wasn't that bad today but there was just so many missed shots and turnovers that they never had a chance.

Feel like they lost their confidence during that horrendous shooting slump in the 1st and never fully recovered. They're kinda lucky the score differential wasn't alot bigger


Wiltjer can't defend lighting pole and is lazy on rebounding. I doubt that starting him is a good idea.

Pangos has to stop incarnating in FVV or CoJo with his dribbles over 15-20 seconds. He still keeps Zags' record for 3's made so why the hell he doesn't shoot even when wide open?

Between Birch, Ejim and Cory, i think we should be decent enough defensively. They are going to struggle to score at times and Wiltjer can do that probably better than anybody on this team


I dont think Pangos has been hesitant to shoot through these warm up games at all. He was clearly struggling with his shot today though
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Post#2248 » by And1Skip » Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:18 pm

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Post#2249 » by WellYouKnow » Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:00 pm

Apparently Brissett is out now? Something happened to his knee.

This is horrendous. He was looking good throughout these games.

I would guess the team is set and Notice probably gets cut unless there's a surprise

Pangos Nembhard Keane
Cory Scrubb Heslip
Ejim best
Wiltjer T Scrubb
Birch Klassen


We're extremely undersized. Really disappointing news about Oshae.

Hopefully the guys can pull off an upset against Australia or Lithuania but it's probably a pretty big long shot at this point
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Post#2250 » by Kenter16 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:32 pm

WellYouKnow wrote:
RaptorHusky wrote:
WellYouKnow wrote:Wiltjer needs to start. Hes a legitimate offensive talent and if they're not collectively shooting the lights out from 3 they are gonna struggle offensively


The defense really wasn't that bad today but there was just so many missed shots and turnovers that they never had a chance.

Feel like they lost their confidence during that horrendous shooting slump in the 1st and never fully recovered. They're kinda lucky the score differential wasn't alot bigger


Wiltjer can't defend lighting pole and is lazy on rebounding. I doubt that starting him is a good idea.

Pangos has to stop incarnating in FVV or CoJo with his dribbles over 15-20 seconds. He still keeps Zags' record for 3's made so why the hell he doesn't shoot even when wide open?

Between Birch, Ejim and Cory, i think we should be decent enough defensively. They are going to struggle to score at times and Wiltjer can do that probably better than anybody on this team


I dont think Pangos has been hesitant to shoot through these warm up games at all. He was clearly struggling with his shot today though




With Brissett out now, Wiltjer will have to play a ton. It won't matter if he can't defend, we don't have anyone else to play in the front court. The upside is that no one can shoot like him and we have limited offensive weapons. Hopefully he gets hot in a game or two.
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Post#2251 » by Vorticity » Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:12 pm

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Post#2252 » by joseph227 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:17 pm

We finally get a competent coach afters years of Triano and Co. and every nba player drops out. wtf
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Post#2253 » by Mirotic12 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:41 pm

WellYouKnow wrote:Between Birch, Ejim and Cory, i think we should be decent enough defensively. They are going to struggle to score at times and Wiltjer can do that probably better than anybody on this team


I dont think Pangos has been hesitant to shoot through these warm up games at all. He was clearly struggling with his shot today though


This forum generally really overrates Pangos. He's seen as an elite player in EuroLeague, or at least an elite point guard in EuroLeague. In reality, he's nowhere near to that level. He's an average player for a good EuroLeague team. That's reality.

He's a very good shooter and ball handler, but he always struggles a lot against size and athleticism, and against good EuroLeague teams he has to come off of ball screens to be able to hit his shot. Without ball screens, he really has problems getting his shot off.
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Post#2254 » by RaptorHusky » Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:43 pm

Mirotic12 wrote:
WellYouKnow wrote:Between Birch, Ejim and Cory, i think we should be decent enough defensively. They are going to struggle to score at times and Wiltjer can do that probably better than anybody on this team


I dont think Pangos has been hesitant to shoot through these warm up games at all. He was clearly struggling with his shot today though


This forum generally really overrates Pangos. He's sen as an elite player in EuroLeague, or at least an elite point guard in EuroLeague. In reality, he's nowhere near to that level. He's an average player for a good EuroLeague team. That's reality.

He's a very good shooter and ball handler, but he always struggles a lot against size and athleticism, and against good EuroLeague teams he has to come off of balls screens to be able to hit his shot. Without ball screens he really has problems getting his shot off.


Same with Wiltjer - both need 2 feet space at least
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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread V2.0 

Post#2255 » by BilboBanginz » Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:43 pm

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Post#2256 » by mojo13 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:51 pm

Mirotic12 wrote:
WellYouKnow wrote:Between Birch, Ejim and Cory, i think we should be decent enough defensively. They are going to struggle to score at times and Wiltjer can do that probably better than anybody on this team


I dont think Pangos has been hesitant to shoot through these warm up games at all. He was clearly struggling with his shot today though


This forum generally really overrates Pangos. He's seen as an elite player in EuroLeague, or at least an elite point guard in EuroLeague. In reality, he's nowhere near to that level. He's an average player for a good EuroLeague team. That's reality.

He's a very good shooter and ball handler, but he always struggles a lot against size and athleticism, and against good EuroLeague teams he has to come off of ball screens to be able to hit his shot. Without ball screens, he really has problems getting his shot off.


Yes, because that is exactly WellYouKnow is saying. I can read it right there, he clearly called Pangos an elite EuroLeague player over and over.
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I think most of us here are well aware of Pangos' abilities and limitations. I think we are all struggling with who actually showed up for this team and are looking for any positives we can. Clearly we need Pangos to be aggressive as a lead PG and hopefully shoot well for us to have any chance at Australia or Lithuania. And the team seems much better off with him as a lead PG rather than as a back up PG to CoJo or off ball to CoJo. They are our two best guards and need a heavy dose of minutes, even if CoJo is out of shape and unprepared by missing almost all of camp, CoJo needs to play and have a big role if we are going to do anything.

I still think this is an utter disaster for Canada Basketball and my expectations are in the dirt - it is a self preservation mechanism as at this point as I am not sure I can be disappointed in the results. There is only upside for me!
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Post#2257 » by BilboBanginz » Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:44 pm

Lindell Wigginton says he has several offers for an NBA deal.

https://www.thechronicleherald.ca/sports/nova-scotia-hoops-star-wigginton-has-several-offers-for-nba-deal-345049/?fbclid=IwAR23ER_NMTOGkhPXC4NmsJ7scTGToiL6eeoJhYr19UrgyGZvF_V-X2AtEs4

“There are a few offers on the table right now,” the 21-year-old guard from Dartmouth said in an interview Friday evening. “I know something will be signed by this week, if not leading up to training camp. Something will happen."

“My options are open. At this point, it’s just who comes with the best offer and what the best situation is for me. I think my agent is doing the best job that he can to put me in the right position. I’m just doing what I can, working and grinding every day.”

“It doesn’t have to be with the Raptors,” Wigginton said. “Whatever the best situation is for me. That’s what I want to do and that’s what my agent is pushing for me to do.”
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Post#2258 » by frumble » Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:59 pm

BilboBanginz wrote:Notice has been cut.

Read on Twitter


I figure it must mean Joseph has arrived (or at the very least is definitively en route). I doubt they are that confident in Brissett's status.

But I still hope Brissett does recover in time - the front court is undermanned relative to the guards.
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Post#2259 » by mojo13 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:39 pm

BilboBanginz wrote:Lindell Wigginton says he has several offers for an NBA deal.

https://www.thechronicleherald.ca/sports/nova-scotia-hoops-star-wigginton-has-several-offers-for-nba-deal-345049/?fbclid=IwAR23ER_NMTOGkhPXC4NmsJ7scTGToiL6eeoJhYr19UrgyGZvF_V-X2AtEs4

“There are a few offers on the table right now,” the 21-year-old guard from Dartmouth said in an interview Friday evening. “I know something will be signed by this week, if not leading up to training camp. Something will happen."

“My options are open. At this point, it’s just who comes with the best offer and what the best situation is for me. I think my agent is doing the best job that he can to put me in the right position. I’m just doing what I can, working and grinding every day.”

“It doesn’t have to be with the Raptors,” Wigginton said. “Whatever the best situation is for me. That’s what I want to do and that’s what my agent is pushing for me to do.”



"A few offers on the table" - I assume that means an Exhibit 10 camp deal (at best) or an offer to come to camp with a shot at an the G-League affiliate player designation.
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Post#2260 » by gundysmullet » Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:00 pm

After just finishing watching the entire USA/Canada game I am convinced now more than ever that if Murray, SGA, Wiggins, Brooks and Powell had actually sacrificed a few weeks of their summer and played for Canada they could have beaten USA today and actually played for the gold. So, so, so disappointed

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