The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III

Simmons25 · Post #1041 » by **Simmons25** » Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:33 am

I'm adamant that with all these scoring threats like Embiid, Horford, Richardson and Tobias out on the court with him I just don't see Ben taking an open jumper 10 seconds into a shot clock whilst wide open.... like every one of those guys would. It's just not in his makeup and I can't see an Alpha dog like Embiid being happy with watching the ball go over his head all the time without him touching it.

I can see the only jumpers Ben will take are those turnaround ones with less than 5 seconds left on the clock. I still think Brett Brown should draw up some actual plays that involve Ben getting open for a jumper. Not because he needs a play to get open... but so that it reinforces in Ben and every teammates mind that he is going to shoot a jumper. It should instill some confidence in him which is the most important thing he needs at this point. Hell for all I care BB can only call the play whilst up by 10 or something but at least it forces him to be unselfish... because I get the feeling Ben will never call his own number.

76ciology · Post #1042 » by **76ciology** » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:00 am

So will he be a better shooter than Giannis next season?

eyeatoma · Post #1043 » by **eyeatoma** » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:53 am

Simmons25 wrote:I'm adamant that with all these scoring threats like Embiid, Horford, Richardson and Tobias out on the court with him I just don't see Ben taking an open jumper 10 seconds into a shot clock whilst wide open.... like every one of those guys would. It's just not in his makeup and I can't see an Alpha dog like Embiid being happy with watching the ball go over his head all the time without him touching it.

I can see the only jumpers Ben will take are those turnaround ones with less than 5 seconds left on the clock. I still think Brett Brown should draw up some actual plays that involve Ben getting open for a jumper. Not because he needs a play to get open... but so that it reinforces in Ben and every teammates mind that he is going to shoot a jumper. It should instill some confidence in him which is the most important thing he needs at this point. Hell for all I care BB can only call the play whilst up by 10 or something but at least it forces him to be unselfish... because I get the feeling Ben will never call his own number.

Agree with this to an extent. Not sure I buy Jo not wanting him to shoot. He's pretty unselfish but wants to win. He knows it's in the teams great interest for Ben to be a threat.

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Simmons25 · Post #1044 » by **Simmons25** » Tue Aug 27, 2019 3:14 pm

76ciology wrote:So will he be a better shooter than Giannis next season?

He shouldn't be. He is in his 3rd season and probably his 1st year shooting the ball (If he does).... but Giannis has been in the league 6 years and took 200 x 3 pointers last year and only made 25%. Yikes. I'd like to think if Ben took 200 legitimate 3's he would do better than 25%.

michaelm · Post #1045 » by **michaelm** » Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:00 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
76ciology wrote:Ben just looks like he’s on a whole different tier on those clips.

I think his mid range can translate given he’s hitting them with confidence being defended. Would be interesting if Brett would allow those shots.

Comparing it with Hood’s frequency and makes, I dont think he’s making that much but it sure is progress.

I guarantee you it's not going to be Brett who is going to tell Ben not to take mid range or 3 point shots. I feel that is reserved more for players who have no conscience and will take whatever shot they can get. Ben is different, he needs to confidence. To tell Ben that he's not ready yet, is only going to stifle that confidence. They need to be nurturing him and letting him know that he can be vulnerable on the court, and that the team is will to give up a few points, runs, or games, so that Ben can develop. Unless he's taking them in game he's not going to improve. I see no sense in letting him keep doing that in practice, but not in a real game.

I believe he is a perfectionist who has a revulsion against not being good at something ie shooting. Perhaps he needs to let go of that for the good of the team, but I think it is a real wrench for him given how he functions/is built generally.

Coreyh88 · Post #1046 » by **Coreyh88** » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:01 pm

Those turnaround/stepback mid range jumpers were mostly what Kawhi was killing us with in the Finals (apart from 1 game where he couldn't miss a 3). If you can hit them consistently while being defended you can't be stopped really.

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Coreyh88 wrote:Those turnaround/stepback mid range jumpers were mostly what Kawhi was killing us with in the Finals (apart from 1 game where he couldn't miss a 3). If you can hit them consistently while being defended you can't be stopped really.

Are you serious? this is blasfemy, midrange jumpers in 2019? analytics say midrange shot is inefficient, it has to be either a layup or a 3pt shot. One needs to follow the current trend of 3pt spamming, not the other way around.

Damo25 · Post #1048 » by **Damo25** » Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:40 am

Really hope Ben comes out in the first few games and hits a couple jumpers, it will give him greater confidence going to the line and hitting his FTs

ILikeLollies · Post #1049 » by **ILikeLollies** » Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:59 am

Anyone who acts like we've seen this stuff before from Ben in the off-season is being deliberately obtuse.

We've seen nothing like this in previous years.

eyeatoma · Post #1050 » by **eyeatoma** » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:31 am

More from Ben today

Read on Twitter

kio80 · Post #1051 » by **kio80** » Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:51 pm

Too many open gym runs, practice 100,000 free throws a day please

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76ciology · Post #1052 » by **76ciology** » Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:04 pm

kio80 wrote:Too many open gym runs, practice 100,000 free throws a day please

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You do realize that doing 100,000 free throws takes more than 24 hours so its physically impossible to do.

It will take you around 28 hours to shoot 100,000 freethrows if it takes one second to shoot one.

stormi · Post #1053 » by **stormi** » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:04 pm

kio80 wrote:Too many open gym runs, practice 100,000 free throws a day please

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The Markelle / Hanlen route?

Pass lol

downtownpie · Post #1054 » by **downtownpie** » Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:06 pm

His handles have also improved.

Post #1055 » by **Stanford** » Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:12 pm

Read on Twitter

?

He's 8 feet tall

Post #1056 » by **Sixerscan** » Sun Sep 1, 2019 1:11 am

Hah Zhaire's overalls are great

kio80 · Post #1057 » by **kio80** » Sun Sep 1, 2019 6:26 am

76ciology wrote:
kio80 wrote:Too many open gym runs, practice 100,000 free throws a day please

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You do realize that doing 100,000 free throws takes more than 24 hours so its physically impossible to do.

It will take you around 28 hours to shoot 100,000 freethrows if it takes one second to shoot one.

Ok you got me, I was kidding

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kio80 · Post #1058 » by **kio80** » Sun Sep 1, 2019 6:26 am

stormi wrote:
kio80 wrote:Too many open gym runs, practice 100,000 free throws a day please

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The Markelle / Hanlen route?

Pass lol

Shooting them with his back on the floor? Probably won’t go that route

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kio80 · Post #1059 » by **kio80** » Sun Sep 1, 2019 6:28 am

Stanford wrote:

Read on Twitter
?

He's 8 feet tall

Will this guy ever stop growing? This time next year, him and embiid will he swapping positions

76ciology · Post #1060 » by **76ciology** » Sun Sep 1, 2019 5:54 pm

kio80 wrote:
Stanford wrote:

Read on Twitter
?

He's 8 feet tall

Will this guy ever stop growing? This time next year, him and embiid will he swapping positions

Yes. We can start by changing zhaire and Ben’s position on that picture.

Pretty sure Ben was standing on a higher ground