TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding"

[XxIronChainzxX]

So now I'm seeing that Demarcus got married over the weekend and this whole conversation was because he wanted his kid at the wedding and she wouldn't let the kid go, yet yall support this hoe

Who here has said that DeMarcus shouldn't get to have his son attend his wedding? We don't have enough information to really know their custody / visitation arrangement but I am going to go on a limb and say no one here thinks that a father shouldn't have his son at his wedding (unless there was a good reason e.g. violence or abuse).

[Laimbeer]

I don't know if that woman is a gold-digger using the kid as leverage and to make money via TMZ.
I don't know if Cousins is a deadbeat dad who isn't there the rest of the year, only to boldly demand his kid for photo ops at a wedding.

But I do know that the threat is a bad look in today's environment.
And that Cousins has said or done a lot of dumb things in his career... that tend to dissuade me from giving him the benefit of the doubt.

A bad look in today's environment? Yeah if it weren't for all this me-too PC crap guys could go back to threatening to murder their ex and it would be no big deal, like the good ole days.

[clyde21]

The red herring you've set up. You keep insisting that your not "absolving" Cousins. What you really mean is that you're not "fully" absolving him (even though I've never actually seen you condemn him since you came in to post a defence). But the whole point of posting "context" is to actually lessen the amount he's blamed - to convince people he's not done as much wrong.

We can also get into how you're apparently just making stuff up to do it too, and haven't read the TMZ report. As to do it you're saying the ex didn't report this to the police (according to TMZ she did) and that she sold it to TMZ (according to TMZ they got it from the court file).

no, I mean i'm not absolving Cousins. he shouldn't have said that. pointblank. but context matters. just like how in murder trials context matters. it's the difference between murder and manslaughter. get it?

Provocation doesn't turn murder into manslaughter. The bitch had it coming - as it turns out - is not a recognized defence. This is why I am harping on this point.

The reasons a defence lawyer brings up context is, actually, to absolve the accused of some of the blame attaching to his or her conduct. You're taking the position of the defence lawyer, standing up for Cousin's conduct. You're doing it because you don't actually think it's that blameworthy (unless like an advocate he's actually laying you).

Lost in all of this - as I've said - is that you've rushed so quickly to defend Cousins that you've seemingly gotten all this context wrong: the ex reported it to the police and didn't sell it to TMZ (according to TMZ itself).

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of course I'm defending Cousins, and it's not lost in this at all, that's been the primary conversation in this thread actually. just like I have low tolerance for threatening women, I also have low tolerance for hood rats that continuously leverage their children/pregnancies to put pro athletes in bad situations.

and this is not 'bitch had it coming argument'...it's providing context in that Cousins, who's a volatile character, was clearly baited into this, and this woman's intentions have been made clear by the fact that she immediately went to TMZ and sold the recording (and yes, she did sell it, they HAVE to say she didn't).... to pretend that context doesn't matter here is ridiculous. of course it does.

and please get the **** off your high horse, your posts are a drag to read.

[clyde21]

So now I'm seeing that Demarcus got married over the weekend and this whole conversation was because he wanted his kid at the wedding and she wouldn't let the kid go, yet yall support this hoe

Who here has said that DeMarcus shouldn't get to have his son attend his wedding? We don't have enough information to really know their custody / visitation arrangement but I am going to go on a limb and say no one here thinks that a father shouldn't have his son at his wedding (unless there was a good reason e.g. violence or abuse).

wait, you mean just like how no one is saying it was cool for Cousins to say that?

[Snakebites]

Wow a gold digging lady with likely low morals out to expose the person who probably pays for all her bills through child support. Why do I find it hard to feel bad for her?

I don’t know about feeling sympathy for her, but the primary criticism should be leveled at the person who made the threat.

And it’s not even close.

Obviously Cousins shouldn't be making death threats especially in this day & age, but I personally have a hard time pitying someone biting the hand that feeds her.

We don’t know the full context though. Maybe this is a pattern of behavior.

I also don’t really like the “hand that feeds her” language here. He’s obligated to provide child support both legally and morally. The fact that he’s paying it doesn’t mean she doesn’t have the right to call out abusive behavior.

I don’t think we should be crucifying this lady based on what we know. We’ve got enough to be critical of Cousins behavior. The tape is sufficient. Until more is known that’s what the point here ought to be.

[XxIronChainzxX]

no, I mean i'm not absolving Cousins. he shouldn't have said that. pointblank. but context matters. just like how in murder trials context matters. it's the difference between murder and manslaughter. get it?

Provocation doesn't turn murder into manslaughter. The bitch had it coming - as it turns out - is not a recognized defence. This is why I am harping on this point.

The reasons a defence lawyer brings up context is, actually, to absolve the accused of some of the blame attaching to his or her conduct. You're taking the position of the defence lawyer, standing up for Cousin's conduct. You're doing it because you don't actually think it's that blameworthy (unless like an advocate he's actually laying you).

Lost in all of this - as I've said - is that you've rushed so quickly to defend Cousins that you've seemingly gotten all this context wrong: the ex reported it to the police and didn't sell it to TMZ (according to TMZ itself).

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of course I'm defending Cousins, and it's not lost in this at all, that's been the primary conversation in this thread actually. just like I have low tolerance for threatening women, I also have low tolerance for hood rats that continuously leverage their children/pregnancies to put pro athletes in bad situations.

and this is not 'bitch had it coming argument'...it's providing context in that Cousins, who's a volatile character, was clearly baited into this, and this woman's intentions have been made clear by the fact that she immediately went to TMZ and sold the recording. to pretend that context doesn't matter here is ridiculous. of course it does.

and please get the **** off your high horse, your posts are a drag to read.

You seem to have quite the high tolerance for threatening women seeing that you think he's been "clearly baited into this" and that you're "defending Cousins" for actually threatening a woman. And it's not any threat: it's a threat to murder her by shooting her in the head.

It's particularly telling that you're doing this based on a fantasy scenario.

I'm going to post this again because it seems that I need to: where do you get this allegation that she sold the recording to TMZ? That is not what TMZ says.

TMZ reports that the source is a public court document:
"TMZ Sports has obtained court docs and a police report filed by DC's ex-girlfriend, Christy West -- claiming the NBA star threatened her on August 23, just one day before Cousins was set to marry his new girlfriend, Morgan Lang, in Atlanta."

The link is below:

https://www.tmz.com/2019/08/27/demarcus-cousins-accused-threatening-shoot-baby-mama-before-wedding/

[Swish1906]

2019 - the time where the guy threatening to shoot someone is just the victim of a hood rat/hoe/bitch. Or that a potential baiting is the bigger crime

oh boy

[clyde21]

Provocation doesn't turn murder into manslaughter. The bitch had it coming - as it turns out - is not a recognized defence. This is why I am harping on this point.

The reasons a defence lawyer brings up context is, actually, to absolve the accused of some of the blame attaching to his or her conduct. You're taking the position of the defence lawyer, standing up for Cousin's conduct. You're doing it because you don't actually think it's that blameworthy (unless like an advocate he's actually laying you).

Lost in all of this - as I've said - is that you've rushed so quickly to defend Cousins that you've seemingly gotten all this context wrong: the ex reported it to the police and didn't sell it to TMZ (according to TMZ itself).

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of course I'm defending Cousins, and it's not lost in this at all, that's been the primary conversation in this thread actually. just like I have low tolerance for threatening women, I also have low tolerance for hood rats that continuously leverage their children/pregnancies to put pro athletes in bad situations.

and this is not 'bitch had it coming argument'...it's providing context in that Cousins, who's a volatile character, was clearly baited into this, and this woman's intentions have been made clear by the fact that she immediately went to TMZ and sold the recording. to pretend that context doesn't matter here is ridiculous. of course it does.

and please get the **** off your high horse, your posts are a drag to read.

You seem to have quite the high tolerance for threatening women seeing that you think he's been "clearly baited into this" and that you're "defending Cousins" for actually threatening a woman. It's particularly telling that you're doing this based on a fantasy scenario.

I'm going to post this again because it seems that I need to: where do you get this allegation that she sold the recording to TMZ? That is not what TMZ says.

TMZ reports that the source is a public court document:
"TMZ Sports has obtained court docs and a police report filed by DC's ex-girlfriend, Christy West -- claiming the NBA star threatened her on August 23, just one day before Cousins was set to marry his new girlfriend, Morgan Lang, in Atlanta."

The link is below:

https://www.tmz.com/2019/08/27/demarcus-cousins-accused-threatening-shoot-baby-mama-before-wedding/

I am able to multi-task and have low tolerance for more than one thing at a time, I know shocking.

and you don't have to link me to the article, I already read it twice. it says NOTHING about getting the RECORDING from the court (why the **** would the court just give the recording to TMZ if it was part of the investigation)?

[dan-man]

Oh gosh, like Cousins didn't have enough going on. Hope he's able to de-escalate things w/the baby mama before someone gets shot and another gets locked up.

[ATLTimekeeper]

Context is that she claimed he choked her before. Before he threatened her. What you confuse as context is actually just your opinion about some women. The details appear to be that she did go to the authorities first. That's been brought up in this thread.

His own volatility isn't additional context that can be used to defend him

[dan-man]

I don't know if that woman is a gold-digger using the kid as leverage and to make money via TMZ.
I don't know if Cousins is a deadbeat dad who isn't there the rest of the year, only to boldly demand his kid for photo ops at a wedding.

But I do know that the threat is a bad look in today's environment.
And that Cousins has said or done a lot of dumb things in his career... that tend to dissuade me from giving him the benefit of the doubt.

A bad look in today's environment? Yeah if it weren't for all this me-too PC crap guys could go back to threatening to murder their ex and it would be no big deal, like the good ole days.

It seems more like a booty call than an ex. Not sure if that changes the situation.

[clyde21]

Context is that she claimed he choked her before. Before he threatened her. What you confuse as context is actually just your opinion about some women. The details appear to be that she did go to the authorities first. That's been brought up in this thread.

His own volatility isn't additional context that can be used to defend him

definitely seems like a legit complaint:

In the court docs, Christy also claims Cousins had choked her during a previous incident -- but she didn't provide any specific details.

[wade44]

I don’t know about feeling sympathy for her, but the primary criticism should be leveled at the person who made the threat.

And it’s not even close.

Obviously Cousins shouldn't be making death threats especially in this day & age, but I personally have a hard time pitying someone biting the hand that feeds her.

We don’t know the full context though. Maybe this is a pattern of behavior.

I also don’t really like the “hand that feeds her” language here. He’s obligated to provide child support both legally and morally. The fact that he’s paying it doesn’t mean she doesn’t have the right to call out abusive behavior.

I don’t think we should be crucifying this lady based on what we know. We’ve got enough to be critical of Cousins behavior. The tape is sufficient. Until more is known that’s what the point here ought to be.

She has every right to call out abusive behavior. Whether it will sit well with people is another story.

If some random thot wants to pop out a kid with an NBA player for 18 years of child support more power to her, I don't have to respect her decision to publicly shame the child & probably scar that kid for life

[XxIronChainzxX]

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of course I'm defending Cousins, and it's not lost in this at all, that's been the primary conversation in this thread actually. just like I have low tolerance for threatening women, I also have low tolerance for hood rats that continuously leverage their children/pregnancies to put pro athletes in bad situations.

and this is not 'bitch had it coming argument'...it's providing context in that Cousins, who's a volatile character, was clearly baited into this, and this woman's intentions have been made clear by the fact that she immediately went to TMZ and sold the recording. to pretend that context doesn't matter here is ridiculous. of course it does.

and please get the **** off your high horse, your posts are a drag to read.

You seem to have quite the high tolerance for threatening women seeing that you think he's been "clearly baited into this" and that you're "defending Cousins" for actually threatening a woman. It's particularly telling that you're doing this based on a fantasy scenario.

I'm going to post this again because it seems that I need to: where do you get this allegation that she sold the recording to TMZ? That is not what TMZ says.

TMZ reports that the source is a public court document:
"TMZ Sports has obtained court docs and a police report filed by DC's ex-girlfriend, Christy West -- claiming the NBA star threatened her on August 23, just one day before Cousins was set to marry his new girlfriend, Morgan Lang, in Atlanta."

The link is below:

https://www.tmz.com/2019/08/27/demarcus-cousins-accused-threatening-shoot-baby-mama-before-wedding/

I am able to multi-task and have low tolerance for more than one thing at a time, I know shocking.

and you don't have to link me to the article, I already read it twice. it says NOTHING about getting the RECORDING from the court (why the **** would the court just give the recording to TMZ if it was part of the investigation)?

The court file is a public record. You could - right now - access any court file that you want. Reporters get access to lots of legal documents from court files. The only way a member of the public would be barred from accessing a court file would be a protective of confidentiality order from a court.

The principle of open courts is a fundamental part of the modern justice system. Anyone - including you - could just walk up to a court house and get any legal document that you want from any case whatsoever, subject to any local laws purporting to restrict this right (and further subject to constitutional / legal challenges to those laws).

It doesn't even make sense for TMZ to pay for what they're reporting. They can get it for free.

I have not heard - nor does it intuitively make sense - that TMZ would be under an obligation to report whenever they don't pay for a story. Or indeed any news agency. They may have an obligation to disclose when they did pay for a story - but I'm honestly sceptical that such a rule would exist.

But let's assume you are right - that the ex sold the court file and the court documents such as the police report to TMZ. She would have done all of this after she actually reported everything to the police. So your condemnation that she went to TMZ first is still a fantasy.

So I come back to my original point: it's telling that you've spent a lot of time defending Cousins threatening to shoot the mother of his child in the head while calling the mother psychotic based - at least in part if not wholly - made up facts and your imagination.

[NBAFan93]

I wonder how Cousins new wife feels hearing that tape.

[TheNewEra]

This is definitely going to need more context. This has to be the perfect wedding gift from her to him. The PR hit from this alone will likely end him and if he has to play through a suspension it won’t be worth the distraction.

[MrDollarBills]

Grow up, you petulant child.

Right after you stop carrying a flag for women, they are grown and independent; they don't need you screaming your head off in their defense.....

Beta's gunna beta.

Found the incel.

[TheNewEra]

I wonder how Cousins new wife feels hearing that tape.

Going to take his side more times than not partners know how messy baby momma/daddy situations can be and if anything sees this as the mother baiting him

[Swish1906]

Could a mod clean all the "bitch" "hoe" etc?

Thank you

What size capes do you wear

size "adult".

Looks like they are a little bit too big for your "talks like a tough 15y old internet badass" size.

[clyde21]

You seem to have quite the high tolerance for threatening women seeing that you think he's been "clearly baited into this" and that you're "defending Cousins" for actually threatening a woman. It's particularly telling that you're doing this based on a fantasy scenario.

I'm going to post this again because it seems that I need to: where do you get this allegation that she sold the recording to TMZ? That is not what TMZ says.

TMZ reports that the source is a public court document:
"TMZ Sports has obtained court docs and a police report filed by DC's ex-girlfriend, Christy West -- claiming the NBA star threatened her on August 23, just one day before Cousins was set to marry his new girlfriend, Morgan Lang, in Atlanta."

The link is below:

https://www.tmz.com/2019/08/27/demarcus-cousins-accused-threatening-shoot-baby-mama-before-wedding/

I am able to multi-task and have low tolerance for more than one thing at a time, I know shocking.

and you don't have to link me to the article, I already read it twice. it says NOTHING about getting the RECORDING from the court (why the **** would the court just give the recording to TMZ if it was part of the investigation)?

The court file is a public record. You could - right now - access any court file that you want. Reporters get access to lots of legal documents from court files. The only way a member of the public would be barred from accessing a court file would be a protective of confidentiality order from a court.

The principle of open courts is a fundamental part of the modern justice system. Anyone - including you - could just walk up to a court house and get any legal document that you want from any case whatsoever, subject to any local laws purporting to restrict this right (and further subject to constitutional / legal challenges to those laws).

It doesn't even make sense for TMZ to pay for what they're reporting. They can get it for free.

I have not heard - nor does it intuitively make sense - that TMZ would be under an obligation to report whenever they don't pay for a story. Or indeed any news agency. They may have an obligation to disclose when they did pay for a story - but I'm honestly sceptical that such a rule would exist.

But let's assume you are right - that the ex sold the court file and the court documents such as the police report to TMZ. She would have done all of this after she actually reported everything to the police. So your condemnation that she went to TMZ first is still a fantasy.

So I come back to my original point: it's telling that you've spent a lot of time defending Cousins threatening to shoot the mother of his child in the head while calling the mother psychotic based - at least in part if not wholly - made up facts and your imagination.

TMZ doesn't have to disclose who/where they're resources are or where they obtain their recordings or vids or anything if they don't have to, and the court doesn't just release pertaining evidence in the midst of an investigation to the public.

and even if she went to the police first, it still doesn't make a difference regarding the overall intention, especially in this filing itself she literally says she's 'fine with her kid seeing Cousins'. she's all over the **** place.

and I'm defending Cousins by providing appropriate context to the situation, in which you and other self-righteous individuals are willing to completely ignore to flex nuts about how much of a white knight you are at the expense of the kid who probably just wants to see his father.