Woj: LeVert signs 3 year extension

[Prokorov]

And those guys were saying very clearly that they were re signing in Boston and weren’t going to consider any other offers. If Ainge had traded them then, I think we’d complain about Ainge not keeping guys that wanted to be there.

Guys changed their minds. We all publicly saw it and were mostly surprised ourselves. We expecting Ainge to be psychic and see these backtracks in advance?

it was 10% clear there was a 0.0% chance kyrie was not staying. the team knew, ainge new, anyone with a clue knew.

you also have to understand you have a team where on one is happy and expect guys to be a flight risk, ainge never chose a direction, he hedged and he got burned for it. either use assets to get stars or trade vets for more assets

The first reports out of the blue that Kyrie might have been hedging on his promise came on February 1, where he didn’t guarantee he would return but said Boston was still the top team on his list by far. The trade deadline was February 7. Kyrie carefully repeated for weeks that he was still most likely to return to Boston and that it was the top of his list.

If you in any way think it was 100% that Kyrie was leaving and that Boston should have known, you’re an absolute psychic, you should never get anything wrong ever, and why aren’t you running a 20 time defending championship team rather than posting here?

its not predicting, this was known at the time. it was all lipservice from kyrie he was staying. anyone who knew his agents or kyrie knew he wasnt coming back. ainge felt that adding AD would change that. but he wasnt prepared to give what it took and by then kyrie was worn out with all the drama between his young teammates.

ainge new, he thought he could fix it, he was wrong

it was never in doubt kyrie intent was to leave.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Besides this summer, where they've let Kyrie get to free agency, who has Ainge not paid who he should have?

its about letting guys walk for nothing:

Kyrie, Horford, Morris, Baynes i think too?

Rozier was going to be let walk for nothing until the Walker sign and trade happened.. which still didn't result in much for them. It was meant to let them keep Horford, and he still left.
Kelly Olynyk is another one they let walk.

This is factually incorrect. The only way Boston could keep Horford and add Kemba would be to S&T Kyrie to the Nets, something Brooklyn/Kyrie obviously was unwilling to do at anything other than an extortion-level price. The Celtics did that trade to allow Rozier to get paid while picking up a future 2nd rounder.

[Scoot McGroot]

its not predicting, this was known at the time. it was all lipservice from kyrie he was staying. anyone who knew his agents or kyrie knew he wasnt coming back. ainge felt that adding AD would change that. but he wasnt prepared to give what it took and by then kyrie was worn out with all the drama between his young teammates.

ainge new, he thought he could fix it, he was wrong

it was never in doubt kyrie intent was to leave.

Again, that all broke post trade deadline, and ready closer to April/May. But, sounds like you work for the Celtics. As I posted, the news started less than a week before the deadline when Kyrie was still firmly talking about staying. He started changing that publicly well after the deadline.

And, I assume, if Ainge had tried to trade Kyrie, then all the posts this summer would be “Man, Ainge had a superstar that talked about wanting to stay and he just traded him away!”

[Trader_Joe]

its about letting guys walk for nothing:

Kyrie, Horford, Morris, Baynes i think too?

Rozier was going to be let walk for nothing until the Walker sign and trade happened.. which still didn't result in much for them. It was meant to let them keep Horford, and he still left.
Kelly Olynyk is another one they let walk.

This is factually incorrect. The only way Boston could keep Horford and add Kemba would be to S&T Kyrie to the Nets, something Brooklyn/Kyrie obviously was unwilling to do at anything other than an extortion-level price. The Celtics did that trade to allow Rozier to get paid while picking up a future 2nd rounder.

Gotcha.
Just reread articles and yeah it looks like it was possible, but complicated and ultimately required incentive to the Nets to make it happen.

[Trader_Joe]

its not predicting, this was known at the time. it was all lipservice from kyrie he was staying. anyone who knew his agents or kyrie knew he wasnt coming back. ainge felt that adding AD would change that. but he wasnt prepared to give what it took and by then kyrie was worn out with all the drama between his young teammates.

ainge new, he thought he could fix it, he was wrong

it was never in doubt kyrie intent was to leave.

Again, that all broke post trade deadline, and ready closer to April/May. But, sounds like you work for the Celtics. As I posted, the news started less than a week before the deadline when Kyrie was still firmly talking about staying. He started changing that publicly well after the deadline.

And, I assume, if Ainge had tried to trade Kyrie, then all the posts this summer would be “Man, Ainge had a superstar that talked about wanting to stay and he just traded him away!”

In Proks defense he's been saying Irving was a goner for at least a year with 100% certainty. Not saying he had insider knowledge but at least his intuition/logic seemed right if he didn't. I don't think Irving wanted to be there either, but wasn't as certain. Ainge said he had the sense since March he wanted to go home and the Nets not the Knicks. I feel he might have known longer but wouldn't want to say he knew or felt that way prior to the deadline.

[SmartWentCrazy]

its not predicting, this was known at the time. it was all lipservice from kyrie he was staying. anyone who knew his agents or kyrie knew he wasnt coming back. ainge felt that adding AD would change that. but he wasnt prepared to give what it took and by then kyrie was worn out with all the drama between his young teammates.

ainge new, he thought he could fix it, he was wrong

it was never in doubt kyrie intent was to leave.

Again, that all broke post trade deadline, and ready closer to April/May. But, sounds like you work for the Celtics. As I posted, the news started less than a week before the deadline when Kyrie was still firmly talking about staying. He started changing that publicly well after the deadline.

And, I assume, if Ainge had tried to trade Kyrie, then all the posts this summer would be “Man, Ainge had a superstar that talked about wanting to stay and he just traded him away!”

In Proks defense he's been saying Irving was a goner for at least a year with 100% certainty. Not saying he had insider knowledge but at least his intuition/logic seemed right if he didn't. I don't think Irving wanted to be there either, but wasn't as certain. Ainge said he had the sense since March he wanted to go home and the Nets not the Knicks. I feel he might have known longer but wouldn't want to say he knew or felt that way prior to the deadline.

Prok has no sources— he has a friend who works in production for the Celtics who described what he personally thought would happen. He’s speaking matter of factly for ‘lulz’ when the reality is that everyone would clown on Ainge if he dealt Kyrie.

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1729319&p=68054630&hilit=Friend+celtics#p68054630

Regarding the ‘March’ comments by Ainge, Kyrie always had a comment back around the magic plane ride that always stood out to me:

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2019/03/06/celtics-warriors-blowout-kyrie-irving-cross-country-flight-jaylen-brown-brad-stevens-nba/

“Talking with Brad was very helpful, talking with Danny [Ainge] was very helpful, and just expressing myself rather than keeping it all in,” he said. “That made it very easy to just go out and just have fun playing basketball.”

I said it at the time and maintain it to this day, this was when Kyrie told them he was out at the end of the year, letting the weight off his chest.

[Prokorov]

Again, that all broke post trade deadline, and ready closer to April/May. But, sounds like you work for the Celtics. As I posted, the news started less than a week before the deadline when Kyrie was still firmly talking about staying. He started changing that publicly well after the deadline.

And, I assume, if Ainge had tried to trade Kyrie, then all the posts this summer would be “Man, Ainge had a superstar that talked about wanting to stay and he just traded him away!”

In Proks defense he's been saying Irving was a goner for at least a year with 100% certainty. Not saying he had insider knowledge but at least his intuition/logic seemed right if he didn't. I don't think Irving wanted to be there either, but wasn't as certain. Ainge said he had the sense since March he wanted to go home and the Nets not the Knicks. I feel he might have known longer but wouldn't want to say he knew or felt that way prior to the deadline.

Prok has no sources— he has a friend who works in production for the Celtics who described what he personally thought would happen. He’s speaking matter of factly for ‘lulz’ when the reality is that everyone would clown on Ainge if he dealt Kyrie.

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1729319&p=68054630&hilit=Friend+celtics#p68054630

Regarding the ‘March’ comments by Ainge, Kyrie always had a comment back around the magic plane ride that always stood out to me:

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2019/03/06/celtics-warriors-blowout-kyrie-irving-cross-country-flight-jaylen-brown-brad-stevens-nba/

“Talking with Brad was very helpful, talking with Danny [Ainge] was very helpful, and just expressing myself rather than keeping it all in,” he said. “That made it very easy to just go out and just have fun playing basketball.”

I said it at the time and maintain it to this day, this was when Kyrie told them he was out at the end of the year, letting the weight off his chest.

this was true at one time. ive since gotten closer to these situations through a close friend who works in advertising and endorsements for NESN. ive met and got friendly with several people who work as or for agents of several players. you go out for drinks and they start spilling the good stuff.

ive also met brian scalabrine on many occasions who is an awesome dude always willing to talk sports. he isnt a source but he gives alot of insight