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Re: FIBA World Cup 

Post#821 » by Big Joke Line » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:03 pm

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:That drill where players get hit with pads is one of the most useless drills, plus the risk for injury compared to the payout is terrible. If you want to learn to finish through contact, just lift weights. The rest will take care of itself.

I disagree. As someone who played a lot of competitive ball (not professionally) it definitely helped me get used to finishing through contact. And I’ve never heard of, seen or even thought about an injury during this drill. Now if you want to argue it’s a waste of time the way these guys are doing it I’d agree.
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Re: FIBA World Cup 

Post#822 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:48 pm

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CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:That drill where players get hit with pads is one of the most useless drills, plus the risk for injury compared to the payout is terrible. If you want to learn to finish through contact, just lift weights. The rest will take care of itself.

I disagree. As someone who played a lot of competitive ball (not professionally) it definitely helped me get used to finishing through contact. And I’ve never heard of, seen or even thought about an injury during this drill. Now if you want to argue it’s a waste of time the way these guys are doing it I’d agree.


When I used to coach, one of my players got hurt when he got hit with the pad and landed awkwardly and twisted his ankle. Then again, my guys were going full speed vs the stuff you see in the video. After that practice, we put the pads away for good because we didn't really see any improvement anyways.

When we wanted players to learn how to finish through contact, we would just run a gauntlet drill on the low block. No shots outside of the key, no fadeaway. Go up strong, jump into your guy's chest, finish.
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Re: FIBA World Cup 

Post#823 » by reload141 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:03 pm

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:
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CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:That drill where players get hit with pads is one of the most useless drills, plus the risk for injury compared to the payout is terrible. If you want to learn to finish through contact, just lift weights. The rest will take care of itself.

I disagree. As someone who played a lot of competitive ball (not professionally) it definitely helped me get used to finishing through contact. And I’ve never heard of, seen or even thought about an injury during this drill. Now if you want to argue it’s a waste of time the way these guys are doing it I’d agree.


When I used to coach, one of my players got hurt when he got hit with the pad and landed awkwardly on his ankle. Then again, my guys were going full speed vs the stuff you see in the video. After that practice, we put the pads away for good because we didn't really see any improvement anyways.

When we wanted players to learn how to finish through contact, we would just run a gauntlet drill on the low block. No shots outside of the key, no fadeaway. Go up strong, jump into your guy's chest, finish.


There’s alot of new “fads” and using pads I think is one of them. I’m with you here, functional weightlifting to get stronger across the board is all you need.
Get bigger and stronger and then just play the game and you’ll learn through experience with contact that way, pads aren’t “in” the game as it’s body on body contact so I don’t really get it.
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Re: FIBA World Cup 

Post#824 » by Parliament10 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:37 pm

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CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:That drill where players get hit with pads is one of the most useless drills, plus the risk for injury compared to the payout is terrible. If you want to learn to finish through contact, just lift weights. The rest will take care of itself.

I think that both things are helpful.
Lifting weights doesn't give you the actual action of coming in contact with a body.


Yes agreed. People who have never played basketball, don't know how tough it is to put up a shot off balance with contact.

This is exactly what Tatum has been talking about that he's working on with his trainers, going to the rim and finishing through contact.

Yeah. I think that people who don't actually play, particularly at that level, just really don't know.
I can imagine, that at NBA or FIBA speed and strength, it's way different than casual contact.

It's like a 2-Dimensional, when you're not actually in the game.
When you're in it, it's 3-D.
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Re: FIBA World Cup 

Post#825 » by Taget » Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:45 am

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Looks like history might repeat itself this year


Great video. I remember Dirk that year. That was when I knew he wasn't just a really good player but one destined for greatness. And Vlade and Peja were great players and the core members of a team that was robbed of an NBA championship. Argentina had NBA calibre players. Even more on their 2004 Olympic championship team. We just didn't know because many were still playing with European teams. Fun little fact I just noticed googling. Luis Scola is STILL playing professional basketball in China.

Unfortunately the real comparison if we lose this year to a team like Australia is the 2004 Olympics where we lost to a team for the silver who had no NBA talent whatsoever. Italy. Just a tough as nails team that played great defense and had dead eye shooting. The other teams we lost to had future and current NBA all-stars and hall of famers. Italy had none of that. Same thing for Australia this year.
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Re: FIBA World Cup 

Post#826 » by cloverleaf » Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:48 am

OldCeltics wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:
CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:That drill where players get hit with pads is one of the most useless drills, plus the risk for injury compared to the payout is terrible. If you want to learn to finish through contact, just lift weights. The rest will take care of itself.

I think that both things are helpful.
Lifting weights doesn't give you the actual action of coming in contact with a body.


Yes agreed. People who have never played basketball, don't know how tough it is to put up a shot off balance with contact.

This is exactly what Tatum has been talking about that he's working on with his trainers, going to the rim and finishing through contact.


I think it's his trainer Drew who has really articulated it and Tatum is the one guy who danced to minimize contact through this drill, however.
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Post#827 » by Celtics_History_Lesson » Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:43 pm

Cory Joseph has arrived in China.

So any chance that Team Canada had for winning is gone.

https://www.eurohoops.net/en/fibawc/925847/cory-joseph-at-china-canada-also-adds-conor-morgan/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter


Someone list the former Celtics, will only watch teams with Current Celtics, and maybe some with former Celtics.

Datome!

Erden, Baynes, Barbosa, those teams are not very exciting to watch.


USA, France, Germany, have current Celtics?

No Tacko is bad.



If Serbia have Boban and Jokic on the court together a lot, tournament over. They have the BogdanBogdan too, hard to stop.



Derrick White and Joe Harris? Terrible.

The elderly coach with no idea, famous only for his Timmy Tank, he just said the only player on his team who knows how to win is Harrison Barnes.
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Post#828 » by Parliament10 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:27 pm




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Re: FIBA World Cup 

Post#829 » by Parliament10 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:26 pm

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Re: FIBA World Cup 

Post#830 » by Parliament10 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:41 pm

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A Good amount of Camaraderie there.
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Re: FIBA World Cup 

Post#831 » by Parliament10 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:41 am

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Post#832 » by zoyathedestroya » Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:51 am

Huh. So FOUR Celtics players really made it to the US Basketball team? I'm 12 yo, so I don't know much about Celtics/world basketball history. Has that ever happened in previous USA national team iterations, even it's not for the Olympics?
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Re: FIBA World Cup 

Post#833 » by Parliament10 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:14 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:Huh. So FOUR Celtics players really made it to the US Basketball team? I'm 12 yo, so I don't know much about Celtics/world basketball history. Has that ever happened in previous USA national team iterations, even it's not for the Olympics?

I don't remember 3 players ever being from the same team.
1992 was the first time that active NBA players could be on the team. So it hasn't been that long.
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Post#834 » by CeltsfanNLA » Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:25 am

So I have espn and nbatv. Am I not able to watch the FIBA games unless I have espn+ or something?
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Post#835 » by zoyathedestroya » Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:03 am

CeltsfanNLA wrote:So I have espn and nbatv. Am I not able to watch the FIBA games unless I have espn+ or something?

Dunno the answer to that.

Alternative option: ESPN5 YouTube channel right here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXDG9ue-emCN8Ad3h7lERqQ
I'm not sure if they're airing all the games though.
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Re: FIBA World Cup 

Post#836 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:40 am

Parliament10 wrote:
zoyathedestroya wrote:Huh. So FOUR Celtics players really made it to the US Basketball team? I'm 12 yo, so I don't know much about Celtics/world basketball history. Has that ever happened in previous USA national team iterations, even it's not for the Olympics?

I don't remember 3 players ever being from the same team.
1992 was the first time that active NBA players could be on the team. So it hasn't been that long.


3 players has happened twice before:

KD, Klay and Dray in 2016
Durant, Westbrook and Harden in 2012

4 has never happened before.
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Post#837 » by Celtics_History_Lesson » Sat Aug 31, 2019 12:59 pm

Why am I watching Tunisia?

How did Tunisia get the lead?




Am 24 hours early. Team Tatum versus Team Czechia.

Jiří Welsch !



You're actually going to watch basketball games where Aeroflot buys the courtside advertising sign?

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Boban!

FOSHAN (China) - Inspired by Bogdan Bognanovic, Serbia trounced Angola 105-59 in the opener of the FIBA Basketball World Cup 2019 on Saturday in Foshan to take a commanding Group D lead.

The Sacramento Kings guard was a one-man show in front of a 14,000 plus crowd, converting eight of his field-goal attempts to finish with a game-high 24 points. Nikola Jokic added 14 points, 6 assists and 5 rebounds off the bench, Nikola Milutinov came up with 14 points, and Boban Marjanovic contributed a double-double 12 points and 10 rebounds





Tunisia 29 - Spain 25


Rudy Fernandez was drafted by a pick that the Celtics sent for Rondo? Nearly makes him a Celtic. Rudy just hit a 3 for the lead.
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Post#838 » by zoyathedestroya » Sat Aug 31, 2019 1:14 pm

If Gallinari and co. thought they could double us up OR score 50 more points, they had another thing coming! Italy 108, Philippines 62. Hahaha.

Dray Blatche is our very poor man's Boogie Cousins. Also, we should've sent our secret weapon along with the National team. Multiple world titles, just the wrong sport...

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Jokic and co., you're next!!
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Post#839 » by JJHondo17 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 1:59 pm

I don't know, maybe I'm naive or just not paying attention but we can't watch these games unless we give ESPN $4.99 a month for useless inside drivel?? This is brutal. I invested my time watching the exhibition games on NBA TV and now I'm denied the opportunity to watch the real thing because ESPN needs to make a buck?? I checked NBA TV to see if there might be replays available but I'm not seeing it. I'll be damned if I give ESPN one dollar!! It's all very disappointing.
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Post#840 » by Tiny ball » Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:48 pm

JJHondo17 wrote:I don't know, maybe I'm naive or just not paying attention but we can't watch these games unless we give ESPN $4.99 a month for useless inside drivel?? This is brutal. I invested my time watching the exhibition games on NBA TV and now I'm denied the opportunity to watch the real thing because ESPN needs to make a buck?? I checked NBA TV to see if there might be replays available but I'm not seeing it. I'll be damned if I give ESPN one dollar!! It's all very disappointing.
I'm in Asia and don't care about live as have terrible tv here. I don't really watch tv. I just want to watch replay on my laptop? Are there going to be replays?

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