Reminder: Anthony Davis doesn't shoot 3's

[JellosJigglin]

Anthony Davis not being being a great 3 point shooter is not a problem. It's the fact that he doesn't like playing the 5 and the Lakers' does not have an elite 3 point shooter on their team that can be on their closing lineup.

Define elite 3 point shooter.

Danny Green had one of the highest shooting percentages in the league on open 3 point shots.

Quinn Cook is a career 42% shooter from 3.
Dudley career 39%.
Troy Daniels career 40%.
Caruso career 40% (small sample size)
Bradley career 36%

They may not be elite but at least 2 of these guys can be on the court in a closing lineup with Lebron and AD. This isn't the same Laker roster as last season with 10 ball handlers and no shooters.

[iamworthy]

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[killmongrel]

Anthony Davis not being being a great 3 point shooter is not a problem. It's the fact that he doesn't like playing the 5 and the Lakers' does not have an elite 3 point shooter on their team that can be on their closing lineup.

Define elite 3 point shooter.

Danny Green had one of the highest shooting percentages in the league on open 3 point shots.

Quinn Cook is a career 42% shooter from 3.
Dudley career 39%.
Troy Daniels career 40%.
Caruso career 40% (small sample size)
Bradley career 36%

They may not be elite but at least 2 of these guys can be on the court in a closing lineup with Lebron and AD. This isn't the same Laker roster as last season with 10 ball handlers and no shooters.

I've had his discussion with another poster before and the answer is the same - most of the players you listed should not be playing significant minutes in the playoffs or should be closing games.

[BigRedDog]

Anthony Davis not being being a great 3 point shooter is not a problem. It's the fact that he doesn't like playing the 5 and the Lakers' does not have an elite 3 point shooter on their team that can be on their closing lineup.

Define elite 3 point shooter.

Danny Green had one of the highest shooting percentages in the league on open 3 point shots.

Quinn Cook is a career 42% shooter from 3.
Dudley career 39%.
Troy Daniels career 40%.
Caruso career 40% (small sample size)
Bradley career 36%

They may not be elite but at least 2 of these guys can be on the court in a closing lineup with Lebron and AD. This isn't the same Laker roster as last season with 10 ball handlers and no shooters.

Green is a great fit with Lebron/AD for sure.

Dudley is a good fit as well as long as his body holds up another season, he's a good player but he's at that "could fall off a cliff point"

Caruso hasn't shown much yet, this will be a make or break year for him.

Bradley is about as bad as it gets.

Cook is probably about as bad as it gets as far as players one tier below Bradley

Troy Daniels is about as unplayable as it gets as far as players who are one tier below Cook...

[The_Hater]

Clipper fans so salty

At what exactly they easily had the most prolific off season evar.

Ever? Not even close.

Just looking at recent seasons, the Heat in 2010 and the Cavs in 2014 had much better off-seasons. The Heat added the greatest player of his generation and another HOF level player without giving up 2 solid starters and a boatload of draft picks. They gave up absolutely nothing. And the Cavs only gave up Andrew Wiggins to add Bron/Love.

If we want to go back further than that, in 1996 the Lakers signed Shaquille O'Neal as a free agent and drafted Kobe Bryant. Putting arguably the best duo of all-time together in the same off-season would be more prolific right?

[The_Hater]

Anthony Davis not being being a great 3 point shooter is not a problem. It's the fact that he doesn't like playing the 5 and the Lakers' does not have an elite 3 point shooter on their team that can be on their closing lineup.

Define elite 3 point shooter.

Danny Green had one of the highest shooting percentages in the league on open 3 point shots.

Quinn Cook is a career 42% shooter from 3.
Dudley career 39%.
Troy Daniels career 40%.
Caruso career 40% (small sample size)
Bradley career 36%

They may not be elite but at least 2 of these guys can be on the court in a closing lineup with Lebron and AD. This isn't the same Laker roster as last season with 10 ball handlers and no shooters.

Green is a great fit with Lebron/AD for sure.

Dudley is a good fit as well as long as his body holds up another season, he's a good player but he's at that "could fall off a cliff point"

Caruso hasn't shown much yet, this will be a make or break year for him.

Bradley is about as bad as it gets.

Cook is probably about as bad as it gets as far as players one tier below Bradley

Troy Daniels is about as unplayable as it gets as far as players who are one tier below Cook...

I don't think Dudley is going to play much and Cook is not very good at all.

But Bradley played great after leaving the Clippers last season. If you look at his entire career, it's been very consistent and productive except for the 55 games he played for Doc Rivers which were awful. I think he's going to be an important cog for them with his backcourt defense and spacing.

[illuminati666]

Neither did Timofey Mozgov... and that duo carried that 2015 Cavs team to the finals and almost to a championship

[Pantsman]

I think he’ll be alright

[ballup]

While it is true stretch bigs help Lebron out with spacing, what OP is majorly glossing over is that the Lakers don't have a second heavy usage ball handler playing alongside Lebron and AD. Both AD and Lebron will get their shots and it helps that AD is more of a play finisher.

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[Spens1]

He doesn't shoot 3's? He attempted 2.5 a game which isn't bad for a big man and that's with him as a focal point of that Pels offense.

[nbhadja]

Lebron worked best with bigmen who can shoot 3's like Kevin Love. AD doesn't shoot 3's.

Chris Bosh didn't shoot 3's either. Also the Cavs won that title despite Kevin Love. He was nearly unplayable against the warriors.

AD will be by far the best big man Lebron has played with. He has never had a true defensive anchor, elite scorer, and rim protector like AD. Plus AD is an elite rebounder. Lebron + AD will shock people this year and Lebron will win MVP.

[nbhadja]

You understand that Bosh in ‘11 and ‘12 didn’t shoot many 3s at all right? It wasn’t ‘till he came back at the end of the ‘12 ECFs that he showcased that he’s been working on it hard and from there on out he started launching from deep with regularity. Prior to that though, him and LeBron worked just fine.

So 1) AD can improve his 3pt shot, which he already takes with regularity, and 2) hypothetically, if you want to assume he won’t shoot any with LeBron on the floor with him, liken him to a much better Ilgauskas, whom LeBron had great chemistry with.

the game was different back in '11 and '12, shooting 3's wasn't that important compared to today. Lebron also was in his prime in '11 and '12, Lebron in 2019 is 2 years away from retirement.

Lebron had great chemistry with Ilgauskas, so what? They didn't win a title

Lebron is still an elite superstar and he will prove that he is still the best player in the NBA. Also AD is an elite player today so your comment about the game changing is irrelevant. We aren't talking about Kevin Love or Roy Hibbert here. In fact, AD is the perfect modern day center.

Comparing Ad to big Z is insane. Big Z was a tiny fraction of the player AD is. That is like comparing Delonte West to Dwayne Wade.

[Lalouie]

ad wants to be a 4.
lebron will make him shoot 3s.
a match made in heaven.

[BigRedDog]

Define elite 3 point shooter.

Danny Green had one of the highest shooting percentages in the league on open 3 point shots.

Quinn Cook is a career 42% shooter from 3.
Dudley career 39%.
Troy Daniels career 40%.
Caruso career 40% (small sample size)
Bradley career 36%

They may not be elite but at least 2 of these guys can be on the court in a closing lineup with Lebron and AD. This isn't the same Laker roster as last season with 10 ball handlers and no shooters.

Green is a great fit with Lebron/AD for sure.

Dudley is a good fit as well as long as his body holds up another season, he's a good player but he's at that "could fall off a cliff point"

Caruso hasn't shown much yet, this will be a make or break year for him.

Bradley is about as bad as it gets.

Cook is probably about as bad as it gets as far as players one tier below Bradley

Troy Daniels is about as unplayable as it gets as far as players who are one tier below Cook...

I don't think Dudley is going to play much and Cook is not very good at all.

But Bradley played great after leaving the Clippers last season. If you look at his entire career, it's been very consistent and productive except for the 55 games he played for Doc Rivers which were awful. I think he's going to be an important cog for them with his backcourt defense and spacing.

Kinda tough to overlook how horrific he was in Detroit. I'lll grant that it's possible he goes back to being forgettable like he was in boston but he's old, worn down, and lacks skill. A lot of guys on the wrong side of 25 with a total lack size or skill find themselves out of the league as their athleticism declines precipitiously.

[PistolPeteJR]

You understand that Bosh in ‘11 and ‘12 didn’t shoot many 3s at all right? It wasn’t ‘till he came back at the end of the ‘12 ECFs that he showcased that he’s been working on it hard and from there on out he started launching from deep with regularity. Prior to that though, him and LeBron worked just fine.

So 1) AD can improve his 3pt shot, which he already takes with regularity, and 2) hypothetically, if you want to assume he won’t shoot any with LeBron on the floor with him, liken him to a much better Ilgauskas, whom LeBron had great chemistry with.

the game was different back in '11 and '12, shooting 3's wasn't that important compared to today. Lebron also was in his prime in '11 and '12, Lebron in 2019 is 2 years away from retirement.

Lebron had great chemistry with Ilgauskas, so what? They didn't win a title

Lebron is still an elite superstar and he will prove that he is still the best player in the NBA. Also AD is an elite player today so your comment about the game changing is irrelevant. We aren't talking about Kevin Love or Roy Hibbert here. In fact, AD is the perfect modern day center.

Comparing Ad to big Z is insane. Big Z was a tiny fraction of the player AD is. That is like comparing Delonte West to Dwayne Wade.

For crying out loud lol, no one’s comparing Z to AD. It was an extreme example in response to the “can’t shoot 3s” thing.

[abark]

Reminder: Anthony Davis is really ****ing good

[ProspectPark]

Lebron worked best with bigmen who can shoot 3's like Kevin Love. AD doesn't shoot 3's.

Chris Bosh didn't shoot 3's either. Also the Cavs won that title despite Kevin Love. He was nearly unplayable against the warriors.

AD will be by far the best big man Lebron has played with. He has never had a true defensive anchor, elite scorer, and rim protector like AD. Plus AD is an elite rebounder. Lebron + AD will shock people this year and Lebron will win MVP.

Unplayable? So in Game 7 of the 2016 Finals, Kevin Love lead both teams in rebounds and plus minus.

In a game where the Final Score was 93-89... Kevin Love was a PLUS 19 and had 14 rebounds.

How is that “unplayable”?

I get Lebron probably taught you how to read and cured your grandma’s cancer, but why do fan boys always have to trash every teammate he’s ever had?

Not sure if you’ve noticed, but pretty much every Center struggles against the W’s. The fact that K. Love could play 30+ minutes and still be a net positive is actually pretty impressive.

[lakerz12]

Anthony Davis not being being a great 3 point shooter is not a problem. It's the fact that he doesn't like playing the 5 and the Lakers' does not have an elite 3 point shooter on their team that can be on their closing lineup.

Define elite 3 point shooter.

Danny Green had one of the highest shooting percentages in the league on open 3 point shots.

Quinn Cook is a career 42% shooter from 3.
Dudley career 39%.
Troy Daniels career 40%.
Caruso career 40% (small sample size)
Bradley career 36%

They may not be elite but at least 2 of these guys can be on the court in a closing lineup with Lebron and AD. This isn't the same Laker roster as last season with 10 ball handlers and no shooters.

I've had his discussion with another poster before and the answer is the same - most of the players you listed should not be playing significant minutes in the playoffs or should be closing games.

"Most of the players you listed"--- what a cop out.

He listed 6 guys. Of course ~4 of them might not see significant playoff minutes.

Danny Green did play 29 minutes per game in the Playoffs for the team that won it all last year.

You said the Lakers don't have an elite 3 point shooter that can be in their closing lineup--yes they do. Danny Green. Not to mention LeBron, Pope, Cook and Kuzma if needed.

You're grasping at straws.

[killmongrel]

Define elite 3 point shooter.

Danny Green had one of the highest shooting percentages in the league on open 3 point shots.

Quinn Cook is a career 42% shooter from 3.
Dudley career 39%.
Troy Daniels career 40%.
Caruso career 40% (small sample size)
Bradley career 36%

They may not be elite but at least 2 of these guys can be on the court in a closing lineup with Lebron and AD. This isn't the same Laker roster as last season with 10 ball handlers and no shooters.

I've had his discussion with another poster before and the answer is the same - most of the players you listed should not be playing significant minutes in the playoffs or should be closing games.

"Most of the players you listed"--- what a cop out.

He listed 6 guys. Of course ~4 of them might not see significant playoff minutes.

Danny Green did play 29 minutes per game in the Playoffs for the team that won it all last year.

You said the Lakers don't have an elite 3 point shooter that can be in their closing lineup--yes they do. Danny Green. Not to mention LeBron, Pope, Cook and Kuzma if needed.

You're grasping at straws.

Danny Green shot 32% from 3 these last playoffs. Like I said, the closing lineup might be light on elite 3 point shooting.

Kuzma ain't it. Pope in the closing lineup? You really talking about Cook in he closing lineup or playing significant minutes in the playoffs?

So that's the problem going forward with the Lakers - the elite 3 point shooters should not be playing significant minutes in the playoffs or be in the closing lineups. And the players who should be playing significant minutes in the playoffs or be in the closing lineup need to take a leap forward with their shooting like Kuzma or at least shoot somewhere around their career averages.

It's not grasping at straws. It's a legitimate argument towards the idea that the Lakers might not have the shooting they need. Doesn't mean they won't, just that it's actually a possibility.

[lakerz12]

I've had his discussion with another poster before and the answer is the same - most of the players you listed should not be playing significant minutes in the playoffs or should be closing games.

"Most of the players you listed"--- what a cop out.

He listed 6 guys. Of course ~4 of them might not see significant playoff minutes.

Danny Green did play 29 minutes per game in the Playoffs for the team that won it all last year.

You said the Lakers don't have an elite 3 point shooter that can be in their closing lineup--yes they do. Danny Green. Not to mention LeBron, Pope, Cook and Kuzma if needed.

You're grasping at straws.

Danny Green shot 32% from 3 these last playoffs. Like I said, the closing lineup might be light on elite 3 point shooting.

Kuzma ain't it. Pope in the closing lineup? You really talking about Cook in he closing lineup or playing significant minutes in the playoffs?

So that's the problem going forward with the Lakers - the elite 3 point shooters should not be playing significant minutes in the playoffs or be in the closing lineups. And the players who should be playing significant minutes in the playoffs or be in the closing lineup need to take a leap forward with their shooting like Kuzma or at least shoot somewhere around their career averages.

It's not grasping at straws. It's a legitimate argument towards the idea that the Lakers might not have the shooting they need. Doesn't mean they won't, just that it's actually a possibility.

Danny Green shot 32% in the Playoffs. Okay...he could just as easily shoot 42% in the next Playoffs.

We all know he has the capability.

Your premise that "elite" 3 pt shooters must fill the closing lineup is a straw man and a fallacy.

Besides the Warriors, most of the Championship teams the last 30 years have only had 1-2 "elite" 3 pt shooters on the court at the end of the game.

Prove to me that you need all of these "elite" 3 pt shooters on the court at once, to win.

Any evidence for that theory?

1-2 seems good enough based on past championships.