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Re: Predicting Year 3 Lauri 

Post#61 » by kulaz3000 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:39 am

ZOMG wrote:We all know that offseason workout videos and/or interviews are often nothing but useless fluff, edited to show a player in the best possible light.

However...

I can't seem to shake the nagging feeling that we should've heard or seen something from Lauri this summer. He's literally given zero hints that he's actually been working hard to eliminate the specific holes in his game. While nobody forces him to keep the fanbase up to date on these things, it does speak of a lack of urgency by him regarding his development as a player.

Lauri is simply not at a level where he can spend the offseason chilling with friends and family, campaigning against climate change and building even more mass in the weight room (something we HAVE seem him doing, unfortunately). This should be the time where he's really laying the foundation for his next big contract. If he comes to training camp with a game identical to last season, I'm going to be shocked and disappointed.

That means the team is either giving him bad advice or he's not taking the right advice seriously enough.

Here's the million dollar question... Is Lauri really hungry? I'd like nothing more than to confidently be able to say "of course he is".

But I just can't.


Don't buy into the media and social media hype.

If you see videos online showing workouts, doesn't mean they are actually working out hard. And when you don't see anything, it doesn't mean it isn't happening behind closed doors.

That said, I've seen posts of him working out abroad, and recently of him at the Advocate Centre along with some of the younger players. So there is that.
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Re: Predicting Year 3 Lauri 

Post#62 » by rygar » Thu Aug 29, 2019 6:00 am

ZOMG wrote:We all know that offseason workout videos and/or interviews are often nothing but useless fluff, edited to show a player in the best possible light.

However...

I can't seem to shake the nagging feeling that we should've heard or seen something from Lauri this summer. He's literally given zero hints that he's actually been working hard to eliminate the specific holes in his game. While nobody forces him to keep the fanbase up to date on these things, it does speak of a lack of urgency by him regarding his development as a player.

Lauri is simply not at a level where he can spend the offseason chilling with friends and family, campaigning against climate change and building even more mass in the weight room (something we HAVE seem him doing, unfortunately). This should be the time where he's really laying the foundation for his next big contract. If he comes to training camp with a game identical to last season, I'm going to be shocked and disappointed.

That means the team is either giving him bad advice or he's not taking the right advice seriously enough.

Here's the million dollar question... Is Lauri really hungry? I'd like nothing more than to confidently be able to say "of course he is".

But I just can't.


Lauri said last offseason that he is not into posting offseason workout videos on social media because he finds them corny and rather let his game speak for itself. In a Finnish interview, he said he has been focusing on his conditioning (without extra muscle mass), more consistent shot and ballhandling this summer. Right things IMO. We'll see soon if he's improved in those aspects, but training videos don't mean anything.
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Re: Predicting Year 3 Lauri 

Post#63 » by bledredwine » Thu Aug 29, 2019 3:21 pm

I can’t predict what Lauri will do, but make no mistake. This season WILL be his breakout year. I’ve been saying it for a year now.
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Re: Predicting Year 3 Lauri 

Post#64 » by PaKii94 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:39 pm

ZOMG wrote:We all know that offseason workout videos and/or interviews are often nothing but useless fluff, edited to show a player in the best possible light.

However...

I can't seem to shake the nagging feeling that we should've heard or seen something from Lauri this summer. He's literally given zero hints that he's actually been working hard to eliminate the specific holes in his game. While nobody forces him to keep the fanbase up to date on these things, it does speak of a lack of urgency by him regarding his development as a player.

Lauri is simply not at a level where he can spend the offseason chilling with friends and family, campaigning against climate change and building even more mass in the weight room (something we HAVE seem him doing, unfortunately). This should be the time where he's really laying the foundation for his next big contract. If he comes to training camp with a game identical to last season, I'm going to be shocked and disappointed.

That means the team is either giving him bad advice or he's not taking the right advice seriously enough.

Here's the million dollar question... Is Lauri really hungry? I'd like nothing more than to confidently be able to say "of course he is".

But I just can't.



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Re: Predicting Year 3 Lauri 

Post#65 » by Axolotl » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:02 am

"Why Lauri Markkanen's ceiling is the face of the Bulls' franchise" https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls/why-lauri-markkanens-ceiling-face-bulls-franchise

"Year 3 holds such promise. He’s accomplished so much in two seasons despite having little to no stability around him and his health getting in his way. There’s a clean slate – and more hope for his team – this upcoming season and beyond."

"...the decision to take Carter made the front office’s intentions clear: They were building around Markkanen. Everything Carter did well – protect the rim, clean up around the basket, pass out of the pocket – were areas Markkanen struggled with during his rookie season."

"...consistency will be the key for Markkanen. It’s cliché but it’s true."
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Re: Predicting Year 3 Lauri 

Post#66 » by ZOMG » Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:31 pm

PaKii94 wrote:
ZOMG wrote:We all know that offseason workout videos and/or interviews are often nothing but useless fluff, edited to show a player in the best possible light.

However...

I can't seem to shake the nagging feeling that we should've heard or seen something from Lauri this summer. He's literally given zero hints that he's actually been working hard to eliminate the specific holes in his game. While nobody forces him to keep the fanbase up to date on these things, it does speak of a lack of urgency by him regarding his development as a player.

Lauri is simply not at a level where he can spend the offseason chilling with friends and family, campaigning against climate change and building even more mass in the weight room (something we HAVE seem him doing, unfortunately). This should be the time where he's really laying the foundation for his next big contract. If he comes to training camp with a game identical to last season, I'm going to be shocked and disappointed.

That means the team is either giving him bad advice or he's not taking the right advice seriously enough.

Here's the million dollar question... Is Lauri really hungry? I'd like nothing more than to confidently be able to say "of course he is".

But I just can't.



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Oh God.

Why...???
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Re: Predicting Year 3 Lauri 

Post#67 » by PaKii94 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:37 pm

ZOMG wrote:
PaKii94 wrote:
ZOMG wrote:We all know that offseason workout videos and/or interviews are often nothing but useless fluff, edited to show a player in the best possible light.

However...

I can't seem to shake the nagging feeling that we should've heard or seen something from Lauri this summer. He's literally given zero hints that he's actually been working hard to eliminate the specific holes in his game. While nobody forces him to keep the fanbase up to date on these things, it does speak of a lack of urgency by him regarding his development as a player.

Lauri is simply not at a level where he can spend the offseason chilling with friends and family, campaigning against climate change and building even more mass in the weight room (something we HAVE seem him doing, unfortunately). This should be the time where he's really laying the foundation for his next big contract. If he comes to training camp with a game identical to last season, I'm going to be shocked and disappointed.

That means the team is either giving him bad advice or he's not taking the right advice seriously enough.

Here's the million dollar question... Is Lauri really hungry? I'd like nothing more than to confidently be able to say "of course he is".

But I just can't.



:lol: :lol: he read your post

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Oh God.

Why...???



don't worry. He also had some pics of him shooting the ball and practicing game situations :lol:
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Re: Predicting Year 3 Lauri 

Post#68 » by transplant » Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:00 pm

Haha, summer is a bitch for NBA fans. We desperately want to KNOW what’s going to happen, but since that’s not possible, we grab whatever info (or lack of info apparently) and speculate our little asses off.

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Re: Predicting Year 3 Lauri 

Post#69 » by ZOMG » Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:12 pm

PaKii94 wrote:
ZOMG wrote:
PaKii94 wrote:

:lol: :lol: he read your post

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Oh God.

Why...???



don't worry. He also had some pics of him shooting the ball and practicing game situations :lol:


Probably staged
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Post#70 » by ZOMG » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:48 pm

Seriously, Lauri is approaching Karl Malone territory here. If he suddenly starts wearing cowboy hats, it's time to be very afraid.
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Re: Predicting Year 3 Lauri 

Post#71 » by sco » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:33 pm

ZOMG wrote:
PaKii94 wrote:
ZOMG wrote:
Oh God.

Why...???



don't worry. He also had some pics of him shooting the ball and practicing game situations :lol:


Probably staged

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Re: Predicting Year 3 Lauri 

Post#72 » by WindyCityBorn » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:26 am

Lauri
22/10. 38 percent from 3.

Zach
25/5/5. 39 percent from 3

Otto
17/6/3. 42 percent from 3
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Post#73 » by sco » Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:11 pm

WindyCityBorn wrote:Lauri
22/10. 38 percent from 3.

Zach
25/5/5. 39 percent from 3

Otto
17/6/3. 42 percent from 3

Something tells me Lauri is gonna be 18/8 shooting 35%. The Bulls just don't get the new NBA. They had a nimble shooter and they're gonna turn him into another big white stiff.

rotoworld wrote:The Bulls "want to boost" Lauri Markkanen's minutes at center this season, according to Darnell Mayberry of The Athletic.

The Bulls only gave Lauri 79 minutes without Wendell Carter Jr., Robin Lopez, Cris Felicio and Bobby Portis on the floor, so he clearly has a lot of room for growth. For what it's worth in that sample, he was terrific with per-36 stats of 29.6 points, 8.2 boards, 0.9 dimes, 0.9 steals, 0.5 blocks and 5.9 treys. Markkanen could be making a big step forward next season, but some health concerns will likely knock him down to about 50 in standard leagues. He could curse that value, if healthy.
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Re: Predicting Year 3 Lauri 

Post#74 » by Red Larrivee » Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:13 pm

sco wrote:
WindyCityBorn wrote:Lauri
22/10. 38 percent from 3.

Zach
25/5/5. 39 percent from 3

Otto
17/6/3. 42 percent from 3

Something tells me Lauri is gonna be 18/8 shooting 35%. I don't think he gets that 3pt shooting and speed are the way to his success - the way he seems so enamored with bulking up.


Adding lean muscle doesn't really decrease your speed though.
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Post#75 » by sco » Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:18 pm

Red Larrivee wrote:
sco wrote:
WindyCityBorn wrote:Lauri
22/10. 38 percent from 3.

Zach
25/5/5. 39 percent from 3

Otto
17/6/3. 42 percent from 3

Something tells me Lauri is gonna be 18/8 shooting 35%. I don't think he gets that 3pt shooting and speed are the way to his success - the way he seems so enamored with bulking up.


Adding lean muscle doesn't really decrease your speed though.

It very we could...if he goes from 225 to 250, he'll be slower and, IMO, more prone to knee and back issues, but mainly big bulky biceps mean less shooting touch.
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Re: Predicting Year 3 Lauri 

Post#76 » by Red Larrivee » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:38 pm

sco wrote:
Red Larrivee wrote:
sco wrote:Something tells me Lauri is gonna be 18/8 shooting 35%. I don't think he gets that 3pt shooting and speed are the way to his success - the way he seems so enamored with bulking up.


Adding lean muscle doesn't really decrease your speed though.


It very we could...if he goes from 225 to 250, he'll be slower and, IMO, more prone to knee and back issues, but mainly big bulky biceps mean less shooting touch.


When was he 250 though? It's really hard to make big judgment here based on a few lifting pictures. He definitely shouldn't be advised against gaining muscle. He needs to improve core and lower body strength to have more success posting up smaller players.

Either way, he's working with NBA trainers. So, I'm sure they're more informed to steer him in the right direction.
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Re: Predicting Year 3 Lauri 

Post#77 » by samwana » Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:35 pm

Lauri should be getting stronger at his lower body not his upper body. Did the Bulls ever learn from the Rose disaster? Ever since Rose bulked up his upper body injuries got the best of him.

For Lauri his speed his footwork and his quick shot are his strength. If he bulks up his upper body too much, I fear he will lose too much of that and the power that works on his joints will be too much.

Work on your base Lauri not too much on your upper body

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Post#78 » by sco » Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:01 pm

Red Larrivee wrote:
sco wrote:
Red Larrivee wrote:
Adding lean muscle doesn't really decrease your speed though.


It very we could...if he goes from 225 to 250, he'll be slower and, IMO, more prone to knee and back issues, but mainly big bulky biceps mean less shooting touch.


When was he 250 though? It's really hard to make big judgment here based on a few lifting pictures. He definitely shouldn't be advised against gaining muscle. He needs to improve core and lower body strength to have more success posting up smaller players.

[url]Either way, he's working with NBA trainers. So, I'm sure they're more informed to steer him in the right direction[/url].

Yeah, color me skeptical. I think many of these guys have the same folks who helped them when they were teens because of the long-standing relationship, but I am of the mind that many of these guys are not top drawer talent.
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Post#79 » by PaKii94 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:50 pm

Strong arms help with keeping a consistent shooting motion when contested and bumped. Y'all acting like he should stay scrawny. Strength gain obviously has to be balanced
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Post#80 » by ZOMG » Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:37 pm

PaKii94 wrote:Strong arms help with keeping a consistent shooting motion when contested and bumped. Y'all acting like he should stay scrawny. Strength gain obviously has to be balanced


The thing is, he was never scrawny. Lauri came into the NBA with a perfectly good modern NBA PF body.

For some reason he’s now aiming for a WWE body.

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