Political Roundtable Part XXVI

[dobrojim]

Completely ethical. So easy to understand how he has the evangelical vote locked up.

[Zonkerbl]

Completely ethical. So easy to understand how he has the evangelical vote locked up.

I mean, assuming they think he's the Anti Christ, heralding the coming of the end times so everyone finally gets to go to heaven, something they all very very much want to happen, you would assume they want him to be as evil as possible, the more evil the better.

[JWizmentality]

So, not exaggerating, the Trump administration is trying to murder immigrant children with cancer (and other rare, deadly diseases) now:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/08/26/immigrant-families-with-severely-ill-children-face-deportation-advocates-say/EMXZQURTzE0U25L6xQlYBN/story.html

I'm sure daoneandonly is beside himself.

[pancakes3]

best case scenario: "useful idiot" or "currying favor for business deals once he leaves office"

https://www.insider.com/spies-react-trump-g7-summit-russian-asset-2019-8

[pancakes3]

So, not exaggerating, the Trump administration is trying to murder immigrant children who have cancer (and other rare, deadly diseases) now:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/08/26/immigrant-families-with-severely-ill-children-face-deportation-advocates-say/EMXZQURTzE0U25L6xQlYBN/story.html

they weren't even providing soap or toothpaste. this is to be expected.

in fact, "Dems want to give illegal invaders FREE HEALTH CARE" is one of the right's main campaign points. this is a feature, not a bug in their eyes. it's insane.

[daoneandonly]

You should be THANKING me. You're new here, so I'll repeat what I've said before: I'm not going to hide my opinions behind emotionally manipulative fake civility. If I think an opinion you hold is vile despicable crap I'm going to tell you to your face, giving you an opportunity to learn from my wisdom and become a better man. You're welcome.

Not only that but I will explain to you WHY your opinion is vile and despicable crap. I grew up in a town of 4000 people in south west Ohio screwing daughters of fathers like you. Your lousy parenting affects me. Instead of spending time having a loving and emotionally healthy relationship, and screwing like bunnies, I have to spend time with your daughter cleaning up the emotional sewage you vomited all over her, because you won't admit your delusion about murdering babies directly and pretty obviously implies you think she's not a person but just property, just a baby cannon, reinforcing the same sense of worthlessness that all of current US society dumps on her, for being too fat/too slutty/too bitchy, and if she gets raped by some guy she knew and thought was safe, it's her fault because she's just a plaything, not a person. THERE'S some constructive criticism your daughter's boyfriend probably doesn't feel comfortable saying to your face. *You're welcome.*

And when your simple minded Handmaid's Tale horsecrap drives your daughter to move three time zones away from you the first opportunity she gets and you're wondering why she hasn't talked to you for five years, well now you know. You're welcome!

And You're Welcome for paying 6x as much in taxes than you do to make your life easier. But yeah you have your poster girl AOC fighting for you to make the same as people who actually work jobs that require specific skillsets and education. You're welcome for using a fraction of the services that you do, while doing the heavy lifting in paying for it.

There's only one argument for abortion in the case of an accidental pregnancy, YOU, you being aborted would have likely been a positive. For your parents, coworkers, society as a whole, for your wife, and for the kids who you think are yours, but I'll place a bet are not.

There we go live up to those Christian values that you profess. I think I vaguely remember Jesus saying something about someone that disagreed with him should have been aborted. That was in the gospel of Matthew right?

Actually there's a reason why Jesus came to Earth, to save sinners like you and I who continue to sin and do wrong, just like I did above. But it's funny how you call me out (which you should, I was wrong) but ignore Zonk's heartless words about my daughter being raped, but I guess the left see no wrong in the other right?

[daoneandonly]

So, not exaggerating, the Trump administration is trying to murder immigrant children with cancer (and other rare, deadly diseases) now:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/08/26/immigrant-families-with-severely-ill-children-face-deportation-advocates-say/EMXZQURTzE0U25L6xQlYBN/story.html

I'm sure daoneandonly is beside himself.

If this is in fact true, you damn right I am. It's truly disheartening, I care for kids and anyone who is dealing with a health issue, the latter especially is something I can absolutely understand and empathize with. But unlike the progressive left, I don't just think children who pass a birth canal should be loved and cherished, I think the ones in the womb should as well. All children matter.

[verbal8]

There we go live up to those Christian values that you profess. I think I vaguely remember Jesus saying something about someone that disagreed with him should have been aborted. That was in the gospel of Matthew right?

I think that is in the new "book of Trump" that the RWNJs want to add.

[daoneandonly]

There we go live up to those Christian values that you profess. I think I vaguely remember Jesus saying something about someone that disagreed with him should have been aborted. That was in the gospel of Matthew right?

I think that is in the new "book of Trump" that the RWNJs want to add.

No its more someone who went on attack mode because a near 50 year old retired mod suggested his daughter be raped as an argument for being pro choice. And yet the right winger still admitted he was wrong.

[JWizmentality]

So, not exaggerating, the Trump administration is trying to murder immigrant children with cancer (and other rare, deadly diseases) now:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/08/26/immigrant-families-with-severely-ill-children-face-deportation-advocates-say/EMXZQURTzE0U25L6xQlYBN/story.html

I'm sure daoneandonly is beside himself.

If this is in fact true, you damn right I am. It's truly disheartening, I care for kids and anyone who is dealing with a health issue, the latter especially is something I can absolutely understand and empathize with. But unlike the progressive left, I don't just think children who pass a birth canal should be loved and cherished, I think the ones in the womb should as well. All children matter.

Spare me you modern day Pharisee. You don't give a damn about children. You voted for a man that walked in on naked teenage girls. You got your 12 pieces of silver.

[Zonkerbl]

There we go live up to those Christian values that you profess. I think I vaguely remember Jesus saying something about someone that disagreed with him should have been aborted. That was in the gospel of Matthew right?

I think that is in the new "book of Trump" that the RWNJs want to add.

No its more someone who went on attack mode because a near 50 year old retired mod suggested his daughter be raped as an argument for being pro choice. And yet the right winger still admitted he was wrong.

You want to start this again? I've got more material, if you want to keep at it. Or you can just admit you were wrong and shut the hell up. I don't have time for you.

[payitforward]

It's been months since I dropped in on this thread. I'm sorry to see the vituperation.

Because I have a high regard for Zonkerbl, & because I think daoneandonly is a jackass, & because I absolutely hate Donald Trump for the horrible human being he is, I am tempted to assume this is all daoneandonly's fault.

But, of course, I don't know that. One thing I do know: this exchange has no chance to be enlightening.

As to you, JWizmentality, don't you be talking down the Pharisees! You know nothing of them. Now, I want you to read Pirkei Avot (The Sayings of the Fathers) -- https://www.sefaria.org/Pirkei_Avot.2?lang=en -- & report on what you find there.

[daoneandonly]

I'm sure daoneandonly is beside himself.

If this is in fact true, you damn right I am. It's truly disheartening, I care for kids and anyone who is dealing with a health issue, the latter especially is something I can absolutely understand and empathize with. But unlike the progressive left, I don't just think children who pass a birth canal should be loved and cherished, I think the ones in the womb should as well. All children matter.

Spare me you modern day Pharisee. You don't give a damn about children. You voted for a man that walked in on naked teenage girls. You got your 12 pieces of silver.

And spare me the same, I have nothing to prove to you about how much of a heart I have for kids, my personal life & time speaks to it.

You don't hate Trump because of your BS story about teenage girl, or his asinine acts with the border. You hate him because he makes your life and business harder, you have to be more accountable and work your way to success in a Republican run country, unlike team everything free Liberal USA.

[Bonscott]

Hey guys !!!!
This is my first post and probably my last as it will probably get me banned,I read a lot of the posts in this thread so I know anyone who has different thoughts or ideas are quickly banished
!. Why do you talk so much about children in cages but you didn't have a problem with it when Obama was doing it?
2.You talk about Trump not being faithful to his wife but it was no problem when it was Clinton?
HRC had Benghazi Uranium one and the Hillary victory fund
I'm not saying Trump is great,honest or a perfect guy but good lord open your eyes
Also instead of blaming Trump you need to be mad at the democrat nitwits in DC for not putting anybody decent against him
But at least it's good to see that most of the people here see what an idiot Biden is so the next election should be a better choice

1. Under Obama there was a directive to keep families together. Under Trump, the zero tolerance policy means that anyone caught is immediately prosecuted in criminal court and therefore families are routinely separated. A few seconds search on google will show you that. Under Obama there were more deportations, but they were overwhelmingly of undocumented immigrants with criminal behavior. Check the APNews or Snopes.com or the Pulitzer Prize winning site Politifact which has links to sources.

2. Nobody on this site has mentioned that. You're trolling. If you want to argue about it, the largest knock on Trump in this case has been that he lied about hush money payments to porn stars and directed campaign funds to be paid to cover it up. This is a violation of law. Then he obstructed justice multiple times and suborned perjury from his lawyer to cover this up and other matters. His former lawyer is now serving a sentence for this admitted and proven activity. Under DOJ directive Trump cannot be indicted for this while he is in office. For now.

3. Hillary. Even years later with all the septic bilge that Trump spews out every day, the Trump supporters run back to throw rocks at the corpse of Hillary. Is that the last win you have? Who on here do you read is pumping up HIllary? She was a centrist moderate democrat and as such she was taking big money from big money donors. Probably some of that money comes from dirty sources. Same old same. I would have had more problems with her than I did with Obama. But: She has nothing to do with Trump. She is only ever mentioned by Trump supporters. Anyone questioning the rise of big money in politics over small d democracy had issues with Hillary. Still. She released her taxes. Her campaign has opened the books.

In short, repeat: you're trolling. Every thing you are mentioning is easily debunked and irrelevant. And for what. So you can try to scrape kitty litter over your mistakes?

You admit Trump is not good and dishonest. Yeah. He's a bad guy. Are you just making an excuse for yourself by blaming the Democrats and wishing they had given you a better option. Because otherwise it comes off as: "Well she did it toooooo....."

Okay, even without arguing that point (snopes.com and politifact both cite their sources): did you not pay attention in kindergarten when teachers said "two wrongs don't make a right"? That is not an argument for keeping this guy in office. Or even continuing to support him publicly. He's an embarrassment. An international laughingstock. And dangerous, possibly with deteriorating mental capabilities. It's time to admit the mistake and not double down on it. How, by blaming the Democrats that we elected Trump> (With Russian interference, and despite losing the popular vote)?

Don't follow the example of a dishonest and dirty guy by hiding your mistakes behind someone else. Hillary isn't giving trillion dollar tax cuts to billionaires and destroying family farms and american small businesses with disastrous trade wars etc. Stop it. He's a bad guy.

And yeah I don't like Biden either. Happy you expect the next election will be a better choice than Trump. Who do you like on the Democrat side?

I'm a republican but I have no issue voting Democrat.I voted for Obama the first time and Clinton the second time so with that said I won't vote until we have a democrat winner and then decide.If it's Biden then I'll vote for Trump again.Warren maybe,I don't really know enough about Bernie

[daoneandonly]

I think that is in the new "book of Trump" that the RWNJs want to add.

No its more someone who went on attack mode because a near 50 year old retired mod suggested his daughter be raped as an argument for being pro choice. And yet the right winger still admitted he was wrong.

You want to start this again? I've got more material, if you want to keep at it. Or you can just admit you were wrong and shut the hell up. I don't have time for you.

Why dont you try acting your age, you're 49 and you're as petulant as a teenager, or Trump himself. Just because you have lap dogs like pancake & j wiz who hang on to every word you say doesn't mean you're as important as you think you are.

[Bonscott]

Hey guys !!!!
This is my first post and probably my last as it will probably get me banned,I read a lot of the posts in this thread so I know anyone who has different thoughts or ideas are quickly banished
!. Why do you talk so much about children in cages but you didn't have a problem with it when Obama was doing it?
2.You talk about Trump not being faithful to his wife but it was no problem when it was Clinton?
HRC had Benghazi Uranium one and the Hillary victory fund
I'm not saying Trump is great,honest or a perfect guy but good lord open your eyes
Also instead of blaming Trump you need to be mad at the democrat nitwits in DC for not putting anybody decent against him
But at least it's good to see that most of the people here see what an idiot Biden is so the next election should be a better choice

1. Under Obama there was a directive to keep families together. Under Trump, the zero tolerance policy means that anyone caught is immediately prosecuted in criminal court and therefore families are routinely separated. A few seconds search on google will show you that. Under Obama there were more deportations, but they were overwhelmingly of undocumented immigrants with criminal behavior. Check the APNews or Snopes.com or the Pulitzer Prize winning site Politifact which has links to sources.

2. Nobody on this site has mentioned that. You're trolling. If you want to argue about it, the largest knock on Trump in this case has been that he lied about hush money payments to porn stars and directed campaign funds to be paid to cover it up. This is a violation of law. Then he obstructed justice multiple times and suborned perjury from his lawyer to cover this up and other matters. His former lawyer is now serving a sentence for this admitted and proven activity. Under DOJ directive Trump cannot be indicted for this while he is in office. For now.

3. Hillary. Even years later with all the septic bilge that Trump spews out every day, the Trump supporters run back to throw rocks at the corpse of Hillary. Is that the last win you have? Who on here do you read is pumping up HIllary? She was a centrist moderate democrat and as such she was taking big money from big money donors. Probably some of that money comes from dirty sources. Same old same. I would have had more problems with her than I did with Obama. But: She has nothing to do with Trump. She is only ever mentioned by Trump supporters. Anyone questioning the rise of big money in politics over small d democracy had issues with Hillary. Still. She released her taxes. Her campaign has opened the books.

In short, repeat: you're trolling. Every thing you are mentioning is easily debunked and irrelevant. And for what. So you can try to scrape kitty litter over your mistakes?

You admit Trump is not good and dishonest. Yeah. He's a bad guy. Are you just making an excuse for yourself by blaming the Democrats and wishing they had given you a better option. Because otherwise it comes off as: "Well she did it toooooo....."

Okay, even without arguing that point (snopes.com and politifact both cite their sources): did you not pay attention in kindergarten when teachers said "two wrongs don't make a right"? That is not an argument for keeping this guy in office. Or even continuing to support him publicly. He's an embarrassment. An international laughingstock. And dangerous, possibly with deteriorating mental capabilities. It's time to admit the mistake and not double down on it. How, by blaming the Democrats that we elected Trump> (With Russian interference, and despite losing the popular vote)?

Don't follow the example of a dishonest and dirty guy by hiding your mistakes behind someone else. Hillary isn't giving trillion dollar tax cuts to billionaires and destroying family farms and american small businesses with disastrous trade wars etc. Stop it. He's a bad guy.

And yeah I don't like Biden either. Happy you expect the next election will be a better choice than Trump. Who do you like on the Democrat side?

As far as everything else goes the photos were 100% from the Obama era more than 1 news outlet figured that out.
And how do you know that porn stars were paid money? Did you see it?
ALL politicians are liars thats just a fact not just republicans not just democrats
An honest politician does not exist period
Democratic corruption is rampant between Obama,the Clintons,Pelosi and even Comey unfortunately the Republican party aren't angels either
Just one time I want a president who is nothing but honest but alas it'll never happen

[Zonkerbl]

Alright fine. I'm not wrong. But I have chosen to cause daoneandonly as much pain as possible, because he's clearly a jackass and I don't like him. I could also choose to engage him in good faith, which I really really do not want to do. Because that needs to be earned. And he clearly has earned my disdain, not my respect.

Everything I said I stand by. Every last word. But I will add this:

Daoneandonly, you are clearly a smart guy, who can spell and string sentences together in a logical way, and yet you CHOOSE to be a jerk. You CHOOSE to ignore the logical implications of your words, and that makes you a jackass who I don't like at all, and I would be more than happy to cause you more pain with my words, because you deserve it. And lord, could I.

Unfortunately it's become pretty clear that you have a daughter, so for her sake only I'm going to choose not to screw with you and say this ONCE AND ONLY ONCE:

If you're saying horsecrap like this online, more than likely you're saying it in front of your family, and your daughter, who not being an idiot, understands the logical implications of your words, that you think women are property. If she gets pregnant, SHE DEFINITELY ISN'T TALKING TO YOU ABOUT IT. If she gets raped, THERE'S NO WAY IN HELL SHE'S TALKING TO YOU ABOUT IT.

If you want to have a constructive and not harmful role in your daughters' emotional well being, you will ADMIT TO YOURSELF that you think women are property. What if your daughter gets pregnant? Who gets to decide if she gets an abortion, you or her?

Nothing I say will matter anyway, because you're a stubborn, intentionally ignorant jerk. I hate you and I wish there was some way for you to suffer tremendous pain without that also affecting the rest of your family. But that's not the world we live in, so listen to me for your daughter's sake. Jerk.

Alright, that's it. All other responses to daoneandonly will be to cause him as much emotional pain as possible because he deserves it. I'm done being the nice guy.

[JWizmentality]

If this is in fact true, you damn right I am. It's truly disheartening, I care for kids and anyone who is dealing with a health issue, the latter especially is something I can absolutely understand and empathize with. But unlike the progressive left, I don't just think children who pass a birth canal should be loved and cherished, I think the ones in the womb should as well. All children matter.

Spare me you modern day Pharisee. You don't give a damn about children. You voted for a man that walked in on naked teenage girls. You got your 12 pieces of silver.

And spare me the same, I have nothing to prove to you about how much of a heart I have for kids, my personal life & time speaks to it.

You don't hate Trump because of your BS story about teenage girl, or his asinine acts with the border. You hate him because he makes your life and business harder, you have to be more accountable and work your way to success in a Republican run country, unlike team everything free Liberal USA.

Make my life harder? Lol. All you do is speak in talking points and tired stereotypes of what you conservatives think liberals are. What are you gong to do when your boy gets booted and we unleash unfettered abortions and open the border?

[pancakes3]

lol, what a dummy.

[montestewart]

It's cheap, it's easy.