FIBA WORLD CUP 2019 | SPAIN are new WORLD CHAMPIONS

lambchop · Post #241 » by **lambchop** » Sat Aug 31, 2019 1:42 pm

Gooner wrote:
BadWolf wrote:FIBA wants to be fifa way to much. Basketball world juts isn't 32 deep.

Unfortunately not. It always surprises me that such a great sport like basketball doesn't have a bigger tradition worldwide.

The rules are too complicated and the sport is super expensive compared to soccer, where you can literally draw lines in the sand and use those as goalposts

UcanUwill · Post #242 » by **UcanUwill** » Sat Aug 31, 2019 1:46 pm

lambchop wrote:
Gooner wrote:
BadWolf wrote:FIBA wants to be fifa way to much. Basketball world juts isn't 32 deep.

Unfortunately not. It always surprises me that such a great sport like basketball doesn't have a bigger tradition worldwide.

The rules are too complicated and the sport is super expensive compared to soccer, where you can literally draw lines in the sand and use those as goalposts

Not to mention you need to be tall to went pro, just so many people in the world can really be great at the sport.

scrabbarista · Post #243 » by **scrabbarista** » Sat Aug 31, 2019 1:49 pm

I just started watching the Serbia-Angola highlights. Serbia won 109-59. They were up 15-13 when Jokic entered the game. (Yeah, he came off the bench.) Don't know what happened, but it seemed relevant. That's a 94-46 "run," if my math is correct.

Gooner · Post #244 » by **Gooner** » Sat Aug 31, 2019 1:53 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
lambchop wrote:
Gooner wrote:

Unfortunately not. It always surprises me that such a great sport like basketball doesn't have a bigger tradition worldwide.

The rules are too complicated and the sport is super expensive compared to soccer, where you can literally draw lines in the sand and use those as goalposts

Not to mention you need to be tall to went pro, just so many people in the world can really be great at the sport.

Rules are not that complicated. You have a sport like handball that has the similar rules, it's played by tall people and there is more contact allowed, so there is more toom for rule interpretation. That sport i's not popular in USA at all, but here in Europe, it probably has stronger tradition than basketball, and that's weird to me. Basketball is just a much more attractive sport.

lambchop · Post #245 » by **lambchop** » Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:01 pm

Gooner wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
lambchop wrote:
The rules are too complicated and the sport is super expensive compared to soccer, where you can literally draw lines in the sand and use those as goalposts

Not to mention you need to be tall to went pro, just so many people in the world can really be great at the sport.

Rules are not that complicated. You have a sport like handball that has the similar rules, it's played by tall people and there is more contact allowed, so there is more toom for rule interpretation. That sport i's not popular in USA at all, but here in Europe, it probably has stronger tradition than basketball, and that's weird to me. Basketball is just a much more attractive sport.

Dude please, basketball is super complicated. Just think about how often referees have to discuss and overthink decisions. There are entire threads on this forum about "Was this a travel?" and there's never a consensus. And there are videos where they ask Ronny Nunn to explain to basketball analysts why are certain call was legit, cause, yea, no one really understands the rules thoroughly.

UcanUwill · Post #246 » by **UcanUwill** » Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:03 pm

Gooner wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
lambchop wrote:
The rules are too complicated and the sport is super expensive compared to soccer, where you can literally draw lines in the sand and use those as goalposts

Not to mention you need to be tall to went pro, just so many people in the world can really be great at the sport.

Rules are not that complicated. You have a sport like handball that has the similar rules, it's played by tall people and there is more contact allowed, so there is more toom for rule interpretation. That sport i's not popular in USA at all, but here in Europe, it probably has stronger tradition than basketball, and that's weird to me. Basketball is just a much more attractive sport.

i agree with you, but I cant answer why some many part of the world dont care for basketball, I live in a 15 000 pop Lithuania town, and we probably have hundreds of outside hoops all around the town, thats not even an exaggeration, we love the wport, I am not sure why others dont. I understand Hockey and Football appeal, but Handball, Netball and all these other sports I just dont get how it is more popular than Basketball.

Gooner · Post #247 » by **Gooner** » Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:09 pm

lambchop wrote:
Gooner wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
Not to mention you need to be tall to went pro, just so many people in the world can really be great at the sport.

Rules are not that complicated. You have a sport like handball that has the similar rules, it's played by tall people and there is more contact allowed, so there is more toom for rule interpretation. That sport i's not popular in USA at all, but here in Europe, it probably has stronger tradition than basketball, and that's weird to me. Basketball is just a much more attractive sport.

Dude please, basketball is super complicated. Just think about how often referees have to discuss and overthink decisions. There are entire threads on this forum about "Was this a travel?" and there's never a consensus. And there are videos where they ask Ronny Nunn to explain to basketball analysts why are certain call was legit, cause, yea, no one really understands the rules thoroughly.

There are always some borderline calls, but that never stopped me from playing, or anyone else who loves the game. I'm not buying that.

sunsbg · Post #248 » by **sunsbg** » Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:11 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
Gooner wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
Not to mention you need to be tall to went pro, just so many people in the world can really be great at the sport.

Rules are not that complicated. You have a sport like handball that has the similar rules, it's played by tall people and there is more contact allowed, so there is more toom for rule interpretation. That sport i's not popular in USA at all, but here in Europe, it probably has stronger tradition than basketball, and that's weird to me. Basketball is just a much more attractive sport.

i agree with you, but I cant answer why some many part of the world dont care for basketball, I live in a 15 000 pop Lithuania town, and we probably have hundreds of outside hoops all around the town, thats not even an exaggeration, we love the wport, I am not sure why others dont. I understand Hockey and Football appeal, but Handball, Netball and all these other sports I just dont get how it is more popular than Basketball.

Traditions and it's easier to put two stones or draw two lines like someone mentioned and start playing football. The reason basketball is more popular in Lithuania is probably the same as why football is more popular in other countries. I don't think handball or hockey are more popular in general, two or three countries - maybe.

sunsbg · Post #249 » by **sunsbg** » Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:13 pm

Gooner wrote:
lambchop wrote:
Gooner wrote:
Rules are not that complicated. You have a sport like handball that has the similar rules, it's played by tall people and there is more contact allowed, so there is more toom for rule interpretation. That sport i's not popular in USA at all, but here in Europe, it probably has stronger tradition than basketball, and that's weird to me. Basketball is just a much more attractive sport.

Dude please, basketball is super complicated. Just think about how often referees have to discuss and overthink decisions. There are entire threads on this forum about "Was this a travel?" and there's never a consensus. And there are videos where they ask Ronny Nunn to explain to basketball analysts why are certain call was legit, cause, yea, no one really understands the rules thoroughly.

There are always some borderline calls, but that never stopped me from playing, or anyone else who loves the game. I'm not buying that.

Agreed. You either love it or not. It's not like there are no reviews in a football game.

Someone said there are no 32 good BB countries in the world. Well, I guess that's FIBA's job, make it more popular, so more people love it. This will lead to more/better good teams around the world.

HeartBreakKid · Post #250 » by **HeartBreakKid** » Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:20 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
Gooner wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
Not to mention you need to be tall to went pro, just so many people in the world can really be great at the sport.

Rules are not that complicated. You have a sport like handball that has the similar rules, it's played by tall people and there is more contact allowed, so there is more toom for rule interpretation. That sport i's not popular in USA at all, but here in Europe, it probably has stronger tradition than basketball, and that's weird to me. Basketball is just a much more attractive sport.

i agree with you, but I cant answer why some many part of the world dont care for basketball, I live in a 15 000 pop Lithuania town, and we probably have hundreds of outside hoops all around the town, thats not even an exaggeration, we love the wport, I am not sure why others dont. I understand Hockey and Football appeal, but Handball, Netball and all these other sports I just dont get how it is more popular than Basketball.

Basketball is like the 2nd or 3rd most popular spectator sport worldwide - 4th at worst, and it is a very fast growing sport.

Basketball was exposed to most countries not that long ago, that's probably the biggest reason.

LuDux1 · Post #251 » by **LuDux1** » Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:26 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
Gooner wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
Not to mention you need to be tall to went pro, just so many people in the world can really be great at the sport.

Rules are not that complicated. You have a sport like handball that has the similar rules, it's played by tall people and there is more contact allowed, so there is more toom for rule interpretation. That sport i's not popular in USA at all, but here in Europe, it probably has stronger tradition than basketball, and that's weird to me. Basketball is just a much more attractive sport.

i agree with you, but I cant answer why some many part of the world dont care for basketball, I live in a 15 000 pop Lithuania town, and we probably have hundreds of outside hoops all around the town, thats not even an exaggeration, we love the wport, I am not sure why others dont. I understand Hockey and Football appeal, but Handball, Netball and all these other sports I just dont get how it is more popular than Basketball.

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Gooner · Post #252 » by **Gooner** » Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:33 pm

sunsbg wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
Gooner wrote:
Rules are not that complicated. You have a sport like handball that has the similar rules, it's played by tall people and there is more contact allowed, so there is more toom for rule interpretation. That sport i's not popular in USA at all, but here in Europe, it probably has stronger tradition than basketball, and that's weird to me. Basketball is just a much more attractive sport.

i agree with you, but I cant answer why some many part of the world dont care for basketball, I live in a 15 000 pop Lithuania town, and we probably have hundreds of outside hoops all around the town, thats not even an exaggeration, we love the wport, I am not sure why others dont. I understand Hockey and Football appeal, but Handball, Netball and all these other sports I just dont get how it is more popular than Basketball.

Traditions and it's easier to put two stones or draw two lines like someone mentioned and start playing football. The reason basketball is more popular in Lithuania is probably the same as why football is more popular in other countries. I don't think handball or hockey are more popular in general, two or three countries - maybe.

Football is untouchable, no one is questioning that. I don't think handball is more popular right now, but it has longer tradition in many big European countries, like France, Germany, all the Scandinavian countries apart from Finland, Poland, Hungary, Switzerland...

Pachinko_ · Post #253 » by **Pachinko_** » Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:37 pm

Ι don't really care how popular it is, actually I wish all the soccer fans would **** right off the basketball courts and let us watch in peace. Basketball in Europe was always a niche sport in my mind and I'm fine with that.

scrabbarista · Post #254 » by **scrabbarista** » Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:07 pm

LuDux1 wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
Gooner wrote:
Rules are not that complicated. You have a sport like handball that has the similar rules, it's played by tall people and there is more contact allowed, so there is more toom for rule interpretation. That sport i's not popular in USA at all, but here in Europe, it probably has stronger tradition than basketball, and that's weird to me. Basketball is just a much more attractive sport.

i agree with you, but I cant answer why some many part of the world dont care for basketball, I live in a 15 000 pop Lithuania town, and we probably have hundreds of outside hoops all around the town, thats not even an exaggeration, we love the wport, I am not sure why others dont. I understand Hockey and Football appeal, but Handball, Netball and all these other sports I just dont get how it is more popular than Basketball.

Oblig

Watch on YouTube

That's definitely Kyrie Irving.

Also, I agree, basketball is the best sport on earth.

Alyosha12 · Post #255 » by **Alyosha12** » Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:14 pm

Also football is way easier to play as a begginer then bball. Its way harder to play, learn handles, shooting, using both hands etc. Then to simply kick the ball and run. Which is why football is more intuitivne to play.

UcanUwill · Post #256 » by **UcanUwill** » Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:24 pm

Alyosha12 wrote:Also football is way easier to play as a begginer then bball. Its way harder to play, learn handles, shooting, using both hands etc. Then to simply kick the ball and run. Which is why football is more intuitivne to play.

As a person who was terrible at sports, I think both requires skill. People who never played Football often take shots at it that its just kicking, but theres tons of skill in that. Football is hard to master because it requires high Football IQ, watching Pro teams, the way they defend using offside trap, you always need to be in right place, positioning is key or you finished, and on offense, the creativity in passing and the way you position to avoid offsides and stuff, that sport is very hard to play.

TheScout31 · Post #257 » by **TheScout31** » Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:44 pm

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peja_the_legend · Post #258 » by **peja_the_legend** » Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:50 pm

Football is more fair and open to everyone .In football the best player in the world is barely 1.70 metres.In basketball you just cant be a pro with this height.Basketball is too dependent on height which leaves a lot of "short" countries with a huge disadvantage.South Korea last summer beat world champs Germany in football world cup.I was watching them against Argentina today and felt sorry for them.They are just too short.And this is a disadvantage they can not get over.Why would South Koreans pick basketball over football.

MrSparkle · Post #259 » by **MrSparkle** » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:27 pm

32 teams might’ve been too much. Is it that fun watching your country be walloped by 60 points? Basketball is pretty unforgiving. If you’re undersized or not athletic enough, or you can’t shoot at an elite level, then you will be crushed for 40min straight by any team with NBA/EuroLeague talent. That’s not even including chemistry and coaching. The “C” Team USA isn’t gonna have an easy tournament, even with star NBA players and Popovich.

But oh well, the tournament really does zip by. What is it, 2 weeks? I guess it doesn’t hurt to have more involved. Still surprised Slovenia was excluded.

Alyosha12 · Post #260 » by **Alyosha12** » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:33 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
Alyosha12 wrote:Also football is way easier to play as a begginer then bball. Its way harder to play, learn handles, shooting, using both hands etc. Then to simply kick the ball and run. Which is why football is more intuitivne to play.

As a person who was terrible at sports, I think both requires skill. People who never played Football often take shots at it that its just kicking, but theres tons of skill in that. Football is hard to master because it requires high Football IQ, watching Pro teams, the way they defend using offside trap, you always need to be in right place, positioning is key or you finished, and on offense, the creativity in passing and the way you position to avoid offsides and stuff, that sport is very hard to play.

Ofcourse its a skill, but the level of skill you need to Just play pick up basketball is far greater as pick up football. People need to learn the lay up, which is the most Basic basketball skill, and it takes them on average a few weeks or even months to do it WITHOUT teaveling, where as you can at least pass and shoot in soccer.

The point is That the point of entry for both sports is very different. For basketball you First have to learn to dribble, shoot, lay up before you can actively play. You dont need that for football.