Team Canada Basketball Thread V2.0

[almatic]

In the scenario that Canada wins tomorrow and then Australia beats Lithuania. Canada would finish in 2nd Australia would be 3-0.
These records carry over to the second round, making it almost IMPOSSIBLE for Canada to make the knock stage. France will go 3-0 as well. Germany 2-1. You only play 2 games in the second round. Australia would have the tie breakers against us. So we would have to beat France and Germany, while also hoping Australia beats them both or Australia loses both. Those are the only clear ways we get in. Every other scenario goes to tie breakers. Very confusing. Very unnecessary.

This world cup format is dumb. The second round should exist. Play each team in your pool twice and go to the knockout round.

It's hard enough to have that second round before the knockout stage. The tournament is long enough as it is, add more possible games.and it's tougher to get co-operation with their pro clubs.

[Too Late Crew]

Schroeder got his $70mil contract already. I wonder how many times he played for Germany’s senior team before that?
It sucks for us but most of the young guys skipping out have a semi-logical excuse. Even though they still have peers for other counties playing - and I still think they should be playing. Murray, KO, TT, Nicholson, Powell and of course Wiggins less so and deserve more scorn than say Barrett, Boucher or SGA.

You really should get your facts straight before busting in certain guys who did not play. Murray is hurt and in a walking boot. Ko played and then hurt his knee playing for team Canada. Nicholson wasn’t that even invited.

Why would any of those guys deserve “scorn”.

Murray did a publicity event where he dedicated some outdoor basketball courts at some low income housing projects in Kitchener a few weeks ago and he was walking, running, jumping and playing basketball, so not sure what you’re talking about.

https://milehighsports.com/jamal-murray-to-miss-fiba-world-cup-with-ankle-issue/

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-waterloo/jamal-murray-waterloo-basketball-court-backups-1.5251177

Dedicating a court and sitting behind a table handing backpacks is hardly the same as playing 30 mpg in the World Cup.

[mojo13]

It seems you have a difficult time discerning between a legitimate injury and a convenient excuse. It seems we all do though. Quoting a team fan page that is extremely happy he is not playing is a little naive frankly.

Olynyk sure made it seem like he was fine and would be back in a week or sob - that was until he was recalled to Miami to be looked at by the Heat doctors. Once we heard that - the people with half a brain knew exactly was was happening - no matter the seriousness of the injury.
This doesn’t seem worth debating anymore. There is always going to be an excuse for guys who don’t want to play and even guys who clearly wanted to play like Olynyk. Some legitimate, some iffy and some are transparently garbage.

[Dtown84]

In the scenario that Canada wins tomorrow and then Australia beats Lithuania. Canada would finish in 2nd Australia would be 3-0.
These records carry over to the second round, making it almost IMPOSSIBLE for Canada to make the knock stage. France will go 3-0 as well. Germany 2-1. You only play 2 games in the second round. Australia would have the tie breakers against us. So we would have to beat France and Germany, while also hoping Australia beats them both or Australia loses both. Those are the only clear ways we get in. Every other scenario goes to tie breakers. Very confusing. Very unnecessary.

This world cup format is dumb. The second round should exist. Play each team in your pool twice and go to the knockout round.

It's hard enough to have that second round before the knockout stage. The tournament is long enough as it is, add more possible games.and it's tougher to get co-operation with their pro clubs.

Actually the tournament is 1 game shorter than it used to be.

In 2014 it took 5 games and then they moved on to the knock out stage of 16 teams.

Now five games gets you to the knockout round of 8.

It's only grueling because Canada get screwed on the draw, so not only did they wind up in the group of death they're paired with France/Germany if they make the second round. Compare with say Serbia/Italy who bored to tears and want to get down to 16 teams.

[GreenGarlic]

Lithuania got screwed the most on the draw out of all group H teams We got by far strongest possible opponents from pot 3 and pot 6. Canada and Australia could get Serbia instead of Lithuania from pot 2.

By the way, can anyone explain why Canada went to the 6th pot in the draw despite being ranked higher (23) than Czech (24), Poland (25) and Iran (27)?

It's only grueling because Canada get screwed on the draw, so not only did they wind up in the group of death they're paired with France/Germany if they make the second round. Compare with say Serbia/Italy who bored to tears and want to get down to 16 teams.

[Mattd97]

Lithuania got screwed the most on the draw out of all group H teams We got by far strongest possible opponents from pot 3 and pot 6. Canada and Australia could get Serbia instead of Lithuania from pot 2.

By the way, can anyone explain why Canada went to the 6th pot in the draw despite being ranked higher (23) than Czech (24), Poland (25) and Iran (27)?

It's only grueling because Canada get screwed on the draw, so not only did they wind up in the group of death they're paired with France/Germany if they make the second round. Compare with say Serbia/Italy who bored to tears and want to get down to 16 teams.

I believe official reason was trying to separate teams geographically.

[dagger]

While everyone is free to play or not to play for Canada, if any NBA player from Canada wants to get commercial endorsements in Canada, they should play for Canada internationally. The sport is growing in this country and so are commercial opportunities for the players, but make no mistake, I am not buying the products of any player who shirks an invitation to compete for Canada at the worlds or Olympics.

[InfraRedshaw]

Maybe it's been brought up here (I'm sure it has) but do yall think the time zone is weighing on peoples opinions to play? You could ball out and nobody would have watched because the game was played at 3am...

I bet if the games were any where closer to us time wise, the pressure to play would be greater, since people would actually watch the games

[mojo13]

Maybe it's been brought up here (I'm sure it has) but do yall think the time zone is weighing on peoples opinions to play? You could ball out and nobody would have watched because the game was played at 3am...

I bet if the games were any where closer to us time wise, the pressure to play would be greater, since people would actually watch the games

Well that’s not good news if true. Next Olympics are in Tokyo and next WC is in the Philippines.

[And1Skip]

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[Patman]

Maybe it's been brought up here (I'm sure it has) but do yall think the time zone is weighing on peoples opinions to play? You could ball out and nobody would have watched because the game was played at 3am...

I bet if the games were any where closer to us time wise, the pressure to play would be greater, since people would actually watch the games

Well that’s not good news if true. Next Olympics are in Tokyo and next WC is in the Philippines.

Why the **** would FIBA do this? I hope the NBA/NBPA creates their own tourney similar to how the NHL/NHLPA collaborated on the cool World Cup format. Play it with NBA rules. Similar to the WC of Hockey, the opening round can be held in separate regions, and then the elimination round is in one location. They can have the inaugural one held in Vegas, for example.

You can field the following teams:

USA
Spain
France
Serbia
Australia
Canada

And then you can have some mashup teams also like how hockey does it:

Young Stars (24 and Under, includes both US and non-US players)
Central and South America
Asia and Oceania (essentially Asian players plus Steven Adams lol)
Africa
Europe (excluding Spain/France/Serbia)

[steadysoul]

Maybe it's been brought up here (I'm sure it has) but do yall think the time zone is weighing on peoples opinions to play? You could ball out and nobody would have watched because the game was played at 3am...

I bet if the games were any where closer to us time wise, the pressure to play would be greater, since people would actually watch the games

Well that’s not good news if true. Next Olympics are in Tokyo and next WC is in the Philippines.

Why the **** would FIBA do this? I hope the NBA/NBPA creates their own tourney similar to how the NHL/NHLPA collaborated on the cool World Cup format. Play it with NBA rules. Similar to the WC of Hockey, the opening round can be held in separate regions, and then the elimination round is in one location. They can have the inaugural one held in Vegas, for example.

You can field the following teams:

USA
Spain
France
Serbia
Australia
Canada

And then you can have some mashup teams also like how hockey does it:

Young Stars (24 and Under, includes both US and non-US players)
Central and South America
Asia and Oceania (essentially Asian players plus Steven Adams lol)
Africa
Europe (excluding Spain/France/Serbia)

I mean fiba can't force people to host it. China and the Philippines were the only ones vying for 2019. It's not as if everyone has the infrastructure to host the event.

[Yeezus_]

Is this being streamed on CBC?

[Calinks]

Problem is, at least in the US, there is little to no coverage. The Olympics they would be having replays runing all day. NBA TV at least should have picked this up, aired the games live and then aired the reruns for most of the day. But nope, no one gives a crap.

[OntZags]

So Australia looked quite underwhelming in their win over Senegal. Hate putting too much stock in common opponent results but it doesn't bode well for Canada against Lithuania.

Also looked at the tiebreakers and if Canada can knock off Lithuania but Lithuania beats Australia, it will boil down to point differential between the three teams. Canada letting Australia pull away late and win by 16 may prove problematic even if Canada wins against Lithuania.

[Jstock12]

So Australia looked quite underwhelming in their win over Senegal. Hate putting too much stock in common opponent results but it doesn't bode well for Canada against Lithuania.

Also looked at the tiebreakers and if Canada can knock off Lithuania but Lithuania beats Australia, it will boil down to point differential between the three teams. Canada letting Australia pull away late and win by 16 may prove problematic even if Canada wins against Lithuania.

Senegal looked much better today, complete opposite from their game with Lithuania. And Australia looked lethargic. I wouldn't put too much stock into the point differentials between the LTU-SEN and the AUS-SEN games.

[GreenGarlic]

Australia just like Canada has an undersized backcourt. In my opinion, Senegal with its height, length and athleticism is a bad matchup for both teams. While Lithuanian pg Kalnietis is 6'6 in shoes, sg Grigonis is 6'7 in shoes. There is only one player under 6'6 on our roster. Lithuania's bench is much deeper compared to Australia, too. It is much easier for us to get a big result against weaker opponents. Australia has lots of palyers from Australian league, not the highest level of basketball. At the same time, their starting 5 is amazing. One of the best in the tournament. Dellavedova and Ingles are fully capable of hiding Mills on defense. Australia is well balanced and has enough talent to beat anyone in this tournament.

So Australia looked quite underwhelming in their win over Senegal. Hate putting too much stock in common opponent results but it doesn't bode well for Canada against Lithuania.

Also looked at the tiebreakers and if Canada can knock off Lithuania but Lithuania beats Australia, it will boil down to point differential between the three teams. Canada letting Australia pull away late and win by 16 may prove problematic even if Canada wins against Lithuania.

[OntZags]

Well Dominican just upset Germany and are through to the next round. Olympic qualifying prospects just got even harder.

[YogiStewart]

anyone know if this morning's game will be streamed or on tv?

[OntZags]

anyone know if this morning's game will be streamed or on tv?

No TV coverage afaik.

It's on DAZN for sure. CBC sports videos may have a stream, I'd check there at game time if DAZN isn't an option for you.

You can also check out reddit.com/r/nbathunder or the r/nba twitch for alternative streams.