FIBA WORLD CUP 2019 | SPAIN are new WORLD CHAMPIONS

[TheNG]

Actually I think USA were lucky to have this tough match against Turkey. It'll probably be a big lesson for them and they will be more humble in the upcoming games which are more and more important. They must see this game as a wake up call.

[Zombiesonics]

Actually I think USA were lucky to have this tough match against Turkey. It'll probably be a big lesson for them and they will be more humble in the upcoming games which are more and more important. They must see this game as a wake up call.

The turkish team played an A+ game, they are extremely well coached. They have some nba players too so that helps. I think the USA struggled mightily vs their junk zone; any team that beats USA will use zone for large portions of the game imo. This is where jay wright should come in handy as using zone as a talent equalizer is college basketball's bread and butter... USA players need to be confident on letting shots fly and quit the pump fake record scratches.

[Jstock12]

This is by far the worst overall Team USA roster since 2002 talent wise.

They’re going to have to win with strategy and teamwork because they won’t out-talent anybody with this team. There are some teams in the league that could beat this roster.

There are like 10-12 NBA teams that would beat this roster (most WC playoff teams, and a few EC playoff teams). Because superstars win in the NBA, and this current USA squad has no superstars. My definition of a superstar is not diluted quite enough to include Kemba on that list.

Pelton says this roster would be the best team in the league...

LMAO

[theFireBlanket]

damn Giannis got exposed by a grandpa, so embarrassing. The nba is so watered down compared to real international ball where most NBA stars would be considered average role players

Yeah, Giannis weak. Bring back Melo. Baby a5s Giannis.

Even Thanasis has Melo.

[manlisten]

Actually I think USA were lucky to have this tough match against Turkey. It'll probably be a big lesson for them and they will be more humble in the upcoming games which are more and more important. They must see this game as a wake up call.

This was the sentiment coming from members of the team after the loss to Australia and then they came out and played an uninspired game against Canada which should've been a lot more competitive than the final score if Canada didn't have so many wide open bricks and unforced errors. This USA team doesn't have a switch to flip, they simply aren't built to win this tournament.

[Mirotic12]

Obviously, the US still has more talent than the rest of the world, but the gap has been clearly narrowed. In the past, the US could win with any team. No longer.

USA couldn't win with any team for 20 years now. This is nothing new.

i've never seen a USA team that cant RUN.No fastbreaks at all.No pushing the rhythm.

This just doesnt feel like USA team. They took FIBA like players I get that, but its like they assembled a team to match other FIBA teams. Thats not what USA does with that massive pool of talent, USA force a match ups and game speed, they do not adapt to whats normal for FIBA. This team barely has any athletes.

Dogus Balbay looked like the most athletic player on the floor.

Greece lost to Brazil and they have the best player in the tournament (maybe the NBA)

Giannis is not really the best player in this World Cup, he is much better in NBA... He got exposed already in this World Cup by 39 years old Brazilian veteran.

USA have NBA players at every position. Miles Plumlee would be a top 5 player on most teams.

Definitely not on the good teams........on the typical good teams at this tournament, he would be a 3rd string center.

[kulaz3000]

Giannis is overrated in general. The Raptors already exposed him.

His entire game is based on barreling into the paint on a straight line and he gets away with traveling. He tries to force Eurosteps into congested lanes in the half court. If he’s not in transition or working with an open floor then he’s pretty much useless.

Pack the paint, put a big on him and sag off.

Just because he doesn't have the same production in the international game, doesn't mean he is an overrated NBA player.

The NBA is an different league, with different rules and a different style of play, to which GIannis is perfectly suited for. There are plenty players who weren't great in International competition who dominated at the NBA level, first player which comes to mind is Derrick Rose. He was reglated as a defensive player believe it or not, and a few months later he had an MVP season.

On the flip side, there are international player who played to prominance in the FIBA tournament, and came to the NBA and was bad. Though it's still basketball at the end of the day, slight adjustments in the rules and how the game is officiated can make a great deal of difference.

Now if your intent of saying that he is overrated by saying he isn't a trancendent player who can play great at any level of basketball, then perhaps, but let's not get it twisted, he is far from being a complete player as he is still improving his game on a year to year basis.

[Triples333]

Does anyone have the link to the correct player stats for the tournament? Google is not being my friend.

[Catchall]

Actually I think USA were lucky to have this tough match against Turkey. It'll probably be a big lesson for them and they will be more humble in the upcoming games which are more and more important. They must see this game as a wake up call.

I think Popovich is still experimenting with line-ups and taking advantage of pool play to do it. USA was going to beat Japan and advance regardless of what happened with Turkey. But that said, Turkey hit some tough, contested shots today and USA missed a bunch of looks and made some boneheaded plays.

One thing that should be a concern for Team USA is their inability to contain PGs coming off screens. It happened with Patty Mills, and happened quite a bit today. There were a number of defensive breakdowns.

[Hroz]

Any Canadians on the board.

Do you think the NBA players will turn up for the qualifying tournament for the Olympics?

For those who don't know
The top 2 Americas / 2 European / 1 African / 1 Asian / 1 Oceanian team from the world cup qualify for the Olympics with the hosts (Japan)

Then the last 4 spots are won in a qualifying tournament. Germany Canada are the first 2 big name teams unable to qualify through the world cup (Slovenia didn't qualify through European qualifiers as well)

[pootbrah]

Just watching us turkey replay. What a game lmao. The Ersan tip in had me going crazy even though I knew the outcome and then that terrible Cedi foul for 3 free throws hahahaha oh **** and OT

[stoo]

Does anyone have the link to the correct player stats for the tournament? Google is not being my friend.

http://www.fiba.basketball/basketballworldcup/2019/playerstats

[pootbrah]

Umm so 9 sec left in OT turkeys possession and an unsportsmanlike on US. How do they lose! What the hell is going on hahahaha what a game

Mahmatouglu is my favourite player

[pootbrah]

4 straight missed free throws hahahahahahaha. **** me what a game

[Benedict_Boozer]

Who is the best NBA FIBA guy ever? I’d say Durant - he was a monster regardless because of his shooting and skill level, but he also has the athleticism to dominate NBA rules.


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[manlisten]

Just watching us turkey replay. What a game lmao. The Ersan tip in had me going crazy even though I knew the outcome and then that terrible Cedi foul for 3 free throws hahahaha oh **** and OT

Where do you find the replay? Message me if you must.

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[Pipp33]

As already mentioned, there is a pretty big difference between the NBA game and the FIBA game.

Where the US team is actually at a disadvantage is that the majority of other countries best players who are in the NBA (Serbia/Spain/Australia/Lithuania/Argentina etc), have been exposed to the FIBA game throughout their youth and then adult careers for a large number of games. This means that they already understand the subtle nuances required to adjust their games and bring that to the team game.

Guys like Jokic, Ingles, Gasol, Mills, Ersan, Bogdanovic have been playing this way for years and understand how to play within their National Teams. Most of these players have also been part of the National teams for MANY years, where the US start fresh with a team every tournament essentially.

As the rest of the world's talent has deepened, so too has the toughness of the Tournaments. Whereas there used to be maybe one or two tough teams to match up against for the US, there's now at least 5 quality teams with real depth and then a handful of others who are getting there. Yes, the US is missing many great players, but the rest of the world can only play against what turns up. Other countries, like Spain/Australia/Canada are missing multiple players that would be part of their core team too and whilst they are not the big names like LBJ and Durant, they are very valuable to these teams in FIBA basketball.

I still think the US can win this, but there's also a chance they lose in a Qtr final

[gorz]

Giannis is overrated in general. The Raptors already exposed him.

His entire game is based on barreling into the paint on a straight line and he gets away with traveling. He tries to force Eurosteps into congested lanes in the half court. If he’s not in transition or working with an open floor then he’s pretty much useless.

Pack the paint, put a big on him and sag off.

Dead on. How ppl had him 2nd best player in the league is beyond me. Don't get me wrong hes very good player but top 2? Arguably the best in the league? Next face of the league in the 2020s? Hell no. I don't care if he won mvp last season hes not better than AD. Offense defense AD is better than him.

[pootbrah]

Just watching us turkey replay. What a game lmao. The Ersan tip in had me going crazy even though I knew the outcome and then that terrible Cedi foul for 3 free throws hahahaha oh **** and OT

Where do you find the replay? Message me if you must.

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Kayo sports. I don't know if only available in Australia? I signed up to a betting site (beteasy I think) deposited 5 bucks and got 3 months free...

[Sphynx]

Ingles has morphed into Larry Legend when he hits FIBA ball.

Bodes well for the knockout rounds.