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Re: FIBA WORLD CUP 2019 

Post#1101 » by Porz » Wed Sep 4, 2019 4:24 pm

The Rodzilla wrote:I don't understand why Australia is $34 to win the tournament behind 6 teams

for some reason Lithuania and Greece are rated a better chance, did delly get injured or something?



Well for the little ive seen so far, i saw Lithuania being up on Senegal 50 points or smt. Australia almost got their butt kicked by Senegal. Tomorrow will bring you the wreal answer though, when these two meet up. Rooting for my Baltic brothers! Australia is very sympatethic team though, i hope they pull through with Lithuania. Only two get to go on, right?
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Re: FIBA WORLD CUP 2019 

Post#1102 » by Sgt Major » Wed Sep 4, 2019 4:24 pm

Is Rudy injured? He left the game today holding for his thigh like his hamstring was hurt.
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Re: FIBA WORLD CUP 2019 

Post#1103 » by edmunder_prc » Wed Sep 4, 2019 4:31 pm

USA defense looked poor against Turkey.

Good luck but doesn’t seem likely to win it all.
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Post#1104 » by G R E Y » Wed Sep 4, 2019 4:35 pm

stoo wrote:
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GREY 1769 wrote:Some info clarifying the whole points differential carry over to the second round. I still think this is an unbalanced method, but here it is:
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That is perfectly fine. Because if you have tiebrakers, point differential considered is only among those teams

Hmm well I can't say it sounds all that simple as they carry over to further rounds for some reason so it can hurt a team that is playing stronger competition, yes? Perhaps as others have suggested it's the way of international play and simply takes some getting used to, but for now, it's more like this:
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GREY 1769 wrote:Some info clarifying the whole points differential carry over to the second round. I still think this is an unbalanced method, but here it is:
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Post#1105 » by draftnightsuit » Wed Sep 4, 2019 4:43 pm

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Post#1106 » by stoo » Wed Sep 4, 2019 5:01 pm

GREY 1769 wrote:
stoo wrote:
Spoiler:
GREY 1769 wrote:Some info clarifying the whole points differential carry over to the second round. I still think this is an unbalanced method, but here it is:
Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter


That is perfectly fine. Because if you have tiebrakers, point differential considered is only among those teams

Hmm well I can't say it sounds all that simple as they carry over to further rounds for some reason so it can hurt a team that is playing stronger competition, yes? Perhaps as others have suggested it's the way of international play and simply takes some getting used to, but for now, it's more like this:
pootbrah wrote:
Spoiler:
GREY 1769 wrote:Some info clarifying the whole points differential carry over to the second round. I still think this is an unbalanced method, but here it is:
Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

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U do carry over, but if there is a tiebraker, point differential with teams not in particular tiebrake is irrelevant. That's what is written in your post
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Re: FIBA WORLD CUP 2019 

Post#1107 » by SlowPaced » Wed Sep 4, 2019 5:27 pm

Serbia is a class above USA on offense.

If USA can beat them, it'll be because of a defensive edge, one that they haven't displayed yet but have the upside for.
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Post#1108 » by Mirotic12 » Wed Sep 4, 2019 5:39 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
Hroz wrote:research says Jokic hasnt started in any game.


In interntional basketball, there really is no big deal who starts and who not, many Euroleague MVPs were bench players. I never understood why NBA players care if they start or come of the bench, its a meaningless title. Serbias coach obvioualy likes introducing Jokic few minutes later into the game, doesnt mean he is not their most important player.


The NBA / USA basketball in general still being stuck on the whole caste system that a team must have set starters and set bench players is one of the stranger things to me about current US sports.

It's been proven for years that it's optimal for the coach to be able to use any matches he wants, at any situation, with any opponent - yet NBA still has this archaic starters and bench system. It's really an outdated and stupid thing.
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Post#1109 » by a-French-Fan » Wed Sep 4, 2019 5:41 pm

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Post#1110 » by SFour » Wed Sep 4, 2019 6:08 pm

Really impressed with Bogdanovic....hope Serbia wins gold
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Post#1111 » by limbo » Wed Sep 4, 2019 6:39 pm

Is Serbia really not going to get tested until Semifinals? That's kinda weak... Looks like the biggest challenge til then is Italy they've already beaten 3x in the last month and Spain who's struggling to break away from teams like Iran and Puerto Rico...

You have to believe Spain will be better in knockout stage than what we're seeing, right? I mean, they're not as strong as they were in the past, but they still have guys like Gasol, Willy & Juancho Hernangomez and Rubio - all NBA players (Gasol and Rubio starter caliber players on playoff teams), Rudy Fernandez, former NBA player, although past his prime, Lull who is one of the best guards in Euroleague and a bunch of guys who play together regularly at Barcelona.

If nothing else, i'm always counting on their experience to shine through in most important games. We'll see.
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Post#1112 » by rale93lfc » Wed Sep 4, 2019 6:45 pm

limbo wrote:Is Serbia really not going to get tested until Semifinals? That's kinda weak... Looks like the biggest challenge til then is Italy they've already beaten 3x in the last month and Spain who's struggling to break away from teams like Iran and Puerto Rico...

You have to believe Spain will be better in knockout stage than what we're seeing, right? I mean, they're not as strong as they were in the past, but they still have guys like Gasol, Willy & Juancho Hernangomez and Rubio - all NBA players (Gasol and Rubio starter caliber players on playoff teams), Rudy Fernandez, former NBA player, although past his prime, Lull who is one of the best guards in Euroleague and a bunch of guys who play together regularly at Barcelona.

If nothing else, i'm always counting on their experience to shine through in most important games. We'll see.


You confused me with your post. :D First you said Spain is weak and you finished like they are great. And yeah looks like we have clear path to semi finals...
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Post#1113 » by limbo » Wed Sep 4, 2019 6:51 pm

Yeah, what i'm trying to say is that they're performing below expectations for me. On paper they look far stronger than how they are playing. They really shouldn't be tied up with Puerto Rico and Iran going into 4th quarter of games.

Makes you really consider appreciating Pau Gasol and Juan Carlos Navarro. From the looks of it, those two really were the driving force of Spain, especially on offense. Way different ball game than having Rubio and Marc Gasol as your primary options offensively.
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Post#1114 » by mixerball » Wed Sep 4, 2019 6:55 pm

but they are winning. good seasoned teams do that. any team can have a bad day. serbia will have a bad day.
remember when spain almost didnt make it out group stage at euro 2015 but later won it all?

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rale93lfc wrote:Odd on Serbia vs Italy is 1.07.

I mean, I know that we are good but are we that better? Italy got pretty solid team.


Serbia absolutely destroyed in their previous 2 games, that's why the odds are so low. I got -12,5 myself, should be ez.


Won a bet, we relaxed again at the end, started shooting 3s from 10m... Keep betting on us. :D

Now Serbia and Italy makes new group with Spain and Puerto Rico. Should be easy going to 1/4 finals for us. And that 1/4 finals should not be a problem cause opponent would be Argentina/Russia/Poland/Venezuela. Clear path to 1/2 finals for Serbia. Unless there is no some huge upset.

be careful. you are gonna jinx it.
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Re: FIBA WORLD CUP 2019 

Post#1115 » by TheNG » Wed Sep 4, 2019 7:08 pm

Mirotic12 wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
Hroz wrote:research says Jokic hasnt started in any game.


In interntional basketball, there really is no big deal who starts and who not, many Euroleague MVPs were bench players. I never understood why NBA players care if they start or come of the bench, its a meaningless title. Serbias coach obvioualy likes introducing Jokic few minutes later into the game, doesnt mean he is not their most important player.


The NBA / USA basketball in general still being stuck on the whole caste system that a team must have set starters and set bench players is one of the stranger things to me about current US sports.

It's been proven for years that it's optimal for the coach to be able to use any matches he wants, at any situation, with any opponent - yet NBA still has this archaic starters and bench system. It's really an outdated and stupid thing.

Yes I agree. That's because the NBA is not about winning but about egoes.
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Post#1116 » by rale93lfc » Wed Sep 4, 2019 7:13 pm

mixerball wrote:but they are winning. good seasoned teams do that. any team can have a bad day. serbia will have a bad day.
remember when spain almost didnt make it out group stage at euro 2015 but later won it all?

rale93lfc wrote:
gh123 wrote:
Serbia absolutely destroyed in their previous 2 games, that's why the odds are so low. I got -12,5 myself, should be ez.


Won a bet, we relaxed again at the end, started shooting 3s from 10m... Keep betting on us. :D

Now Serbia and Italy makes new group with Spain and Puerto Rico. Should be easy going to 1/4 finals for us. And that 1/4 finals should not be a problem cause opponent would be Argentina/Russia/Poland/Venezuela. Clear path to 1/2 finals for Serbia. Unless there is no some huge upset.

be careful. you are gonna jinx it.


That's why I put ,,Unless there is no some huge upset,, to not jinx it. :D
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Re: FIBA WORLD CUP 2019 

Post#1117 » by Hroz » Wed Sep 4, 2019 9:21 pm

rale93lfc wrote:
mixerball wrote:but they are winning. good seasoned teams do that. any team can have a bad day. serbia will have a bad day.
remember when spain almost didnt make it out group stage at euro 2015 but later won it all?

rale93lfc wrote:
Won a bet, we relaxed again at the end, started shooting 3s from 10m... Keep betting on us. :D

Now Serbia and Italy makes new group with Spain and Puerto Rico. Should be easy going to 1/4 finals for us. And that 1/4 finals should not be a problem cause opponent would be Argentina/Russia/Poland/Venezuela. Clear path to 1/2 finals for Serbia. Unless there is no some huge upset.

be careful. you are gonna jinx it.


That's why I put ,,Unless there is no some huge upset,, to not jinx it. :D


Spain & Argentina should not be underestimated.
Both will be coming in thinking anything less than a medal is a failure.

But Serbia looks better than every other team @ the WC atm.
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Post#1118 » by manlisten » Wed Sep 4, 2019 9:54 pm

SlowPaced wrote:Serbia is a class above USA on offense.

If USA can beat them, it'll be because of a defensive edge, one that they haven't displayed yet but have the upside for.
I honestly don't even think they have much defensive upside. All their centers are terrible on perimeter switches, no real power forward so their forwards get bullied and then Kemba and Mitchell are below average.

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Post#1119 » by The Rodzilla » Thu Sep 5, 2019 12:08 am

Porz wrote:
The Rodzilla wrote:I don't understand why Australia is $34 to win the tournament behind 6 teams

for some reason Lithuania and Greece are rated a better chance, did delly get injured or something?



Well for the little ive seen so far, i saw Lithuania being up on Senegal 50 points or smt. Australia almost got their butt kicked by Senegal. Tomorrow will bring you the wreal answer though, when these two meet up. Rooting for my Baltic brothers! Australia is very sympatethic team though, i hope they pull through with Lithuania. Only two get to go on, right?


you should watch more basketball, like when australia beat usa and beat lithuiana at the last olympics by 26pts in the knockout round

the senegal doesnt mean anything, australia thought they could just show up and win by 40
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Re: FIBA WORLD CUP 2019 

Post#1120 » by AussieCeltic » Thu Sep 5, 2019 1:59 am

The Rodzilla wrote:
Porz wrote:
The Rodzilla wrote:I don't understand why Australia is $34 to win the tournament behind 6 teams

for some reason Lithuania and Greece are rated a better chance, did delly get injured or something?



Well for the little ive seen so far, i saw Lithuania being up on Senegal 50 points or smt. Australia almost got their butt kicked by Senegal. Tomorrow will bring you the wreal answer though, when these two meet up. Rooting for my Baltic brothers! Australia is very sympatethic team though, i hope they pull through with Lithuania. Only two get to go on, right?


you should watch more basketball, like when australia beat usa and beat lithuiana at the last olympics by 26pts in the knockout round

the senegal doesnt mean anything, australia thought they could just show up and win by 40


Australia always and I mean ALWAYS plays bad against really weak opponents. It's a bad trait that has been around for a long time. On the plus side, we usually turn up for the big games. Tonight against Lithuania will be a big test. Australia's biggest problem is that coach Lemanis can't make in game adjustments. Like in the Senegal game, they were beating up the Boomers on the boards and in the paint yet he kept going back to a 3 guard lineup even though they have capable bigs (Baynes/Bogut/Landale).. I'm afraid he'll do the same against Lithuania tonight. If he does, guys like Sabonis/Valanciunas will feast.
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