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Re: FIBA World Cup 

Post#1081 » by ddb » Wed Sep 4, 2019 6:23 pm

JB is worth no more than 15mil per year on an extension
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Post#1082 » by Edug27 » Wed Sep 4, 2019 6:41 pm

ddb wrote:JB is worth no more than 15mil per year on an extension


Don't tell him that..
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Re: FIBA World Cup 

Post#1083 » by 5InOfLouisville » Wed Sep 4, 2019 6:44 pm

ddb wrote:JB is worth no more than 15mil per year on an extension



The market sets the value. 15 million is cheap for Jaylen.
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Post#1084 » by SmartWentCrazy » Wed Sep 4, 2019 7:15 pm

ddb wrote:JB is worth no more than 15mil per year on an extension


If thats the fine line then you better trade him because he will get more than that.
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Post#1085 » by FlatearthZorro » Wed Sep 4, 2019 8:15 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
ddb wrote:JB is worth no more than 15mil per year on an extension


If thats the fine line then you better trade him because he will get more than that.


True. To me Barnes ain't worth 20 mils, but he's been getting them for what 4 years and will continue getting that type of money. As I said Murray is not worth 32 mils a year in any way shape or form but obviously he got that from the Nuggets.
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Re: FIBA World Cup 

Post#1086 » by GoGreen » Wed Sep 4, 2019 8:29 pm

Jaylen is getting 20, easy. I have a feeling he'll struggle outside of Brads system, too. He is really reliant on open 3s, fastbreaks, and cutting to the basket for points. Kid struggles to create his own offense. Really wonder what's out there for him, though...
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Post#1087 » by return2glory » Thu Sep 5, 2019 1:25 am

FlatearthZorro wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
ddb wrote:JB is worth no more than 15mil per year on an extension


If thats the fine line then you better trade him because he will get more than that.


True. To me Barnes ain't worth 20 mils, but he's been getting them for what 4 years and will continue getting that type of money. As I said Murray is not worth 32 mils a year in any way shape or form but obviously he got that from the Nuggets.


I know a lot of Celtic fans don’t want to here this, but Murray is so much better than Brown. The gap isn’t close. Murray and Joker were carrying the Nuggets in the playoffs.

I feel Brown has 8-12 weeks to show Ainge something for them to pay him around $20 million a year. If he continues to be the same player, Ainge should look to trade him if he can at the deadline.
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Re: FIBA World Cup 

Post#1088 » by return2glory » Thu Sep 5, 2019 1:32 am

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NuckyPowell wrote:Tatum looks bigger and more explosive in that highlight from the Turkey game. Kemba is just nice with that smooth step back that he looks like he could get any time he wants it.


He said he wanted to get to the line more and he got bigger and is more aggressive with his takes to the hoop. Its definitely a promising start— many of the FIBA no calls will be 2 FTs in the NBA.


Those are 2 of the 3 things I’m looking for Tatum to improve on, getting to the line about 2-4 times more a game and getting stronger. The other part of his game in hoping he improves on is his rebounding. His passing is a bonus and it’s only FIBA, but I’ve seen some improvements in that area too.
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Post#1089 » by Celtics_History_Lesson » Thu Sep 5, 2019 2:16 am

Just watched all of Serbia v Italia.

Saw Datome, he was very polite to me when he was a Celtic.

Italy forced him to play big in this game, wasn't a good idea. Had Gallinari at center, not a good idea.

Some brouhaha in the final minutes.

All Serbian fans in the crowd looked like Gronk.

Not enough Boban. Haven't checked stats, maybe he had another game without missing a shot.


Rui might be a better player than half those on this Team USA. The Bullets would not take Joe Harris in trade for Rui. Wouldn't take Smart, H Barnes, Lopez, one of those Plumlees. It would take White and a few first rounders for Washington to even think about sending out Rui to the Spurs.


No Tatum for 2 or 3 games. Will still watch.
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Re: FIBA World Cup 

Post#1090 » by Shak_Celts » Thu Sep 5, 2019 6:20 am

Edug27 wrote:
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Edug27 wrote:Kemba must feel like he’s playing for the Hornets all over again.

Jaylen lowering his trade value each and every FIBA game.



Because FIBA matter so much to the NBA. :roll:


Well, last season didn’t help either... or did that not matter as well?



even though you tried to be snarky and changed the subject, I'll play. in what way did he lower it last season? cant wait for this made up reason.
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Re: FIBA World Cup 

Post#1091 » by GoGreen » Thu Sep 5, 2019 6:21 am

return2glory wrote:
FlatearthZorro wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
If thats the fine line then you better trade him because he will get more than that.


True. To me Barnes ain't worth 20 mils, but he's been getting them for what 4 years and will continue getting that type of money. As I said Murray is not worth 32 mils a year in any way shape or form but obviously he got that from the Nuggets.


I know a lot of Celtic fans don’t want to here this, but Murray is so much better than Brown. The gap isn’t close. Murray and Joker were carrying the Nuggets in the playoffs.

I feel Brown has 8-12 weeks to show Ainge something for them to pay him around $20 million a year. If he continues to be the same player, Ainge should look to trade him if he can at the deadline.


Brown is a great kid. Smart, and by all accounts, a good dude. But it's painful seeing the success of Murray, and especially Hield. I wanted Buddy real bad in the draft, but Danny had to go with the athletic kid who can't shoot.
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Re: FIBA World Cup 

Post#1092 » by FlatearthZorro » Thu Sep 5, 2019 8:17 am

return2glory wrote:
FlatearthZorro wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
If thats the fine line then you better trade him because he will get more than that.


True. To me Barnes ain't worth 20 mils, but he's been getting them for what 4 years and will continue getting that type of money. As I said Murray is not worth 32 mils a year in any way shape or form but obviously he got that from the Nuggets.


I know a lot of Celtic fans don’t want to here this, but Murray is so much better than Brown. The gap isn’t close. Murray and Joker were carrying the Nuggets in the playoffs.

I feel Brown has 8-12 weeks to show Ainge something for them to pay him around $20 million a year. If he continues to be the same player, Ainge should look to trade him if he can at the deadline.


Murray averaged 17 pts on .420 from the field as 2nd option on the Nuggets. He's a better passer and ball handler than Brown. Doesn't do anything else better than Brown- shoot, defend, rebound(even the 3s and Murray was known to be a shooter).
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Re: FIBA World Cup 

Post#1093 » by cloverleaf » Thu Sep 5, 2019 10:54 am

FlatearthZorro wrote:
return2glory wrote:
FlatearthZorro wrote:
True. To me Barnes ain't worth 20 mils, but he's been getting them for what 4 years and will continue getting that type of money. As I said Murray is not worth 32 mils a year in any way shape or form but obviously he got that from the Nuggets.


I know a lot of Celtic fans don’t want to here this, but Murray is so much better than Brown. The gap isn’t close. Murray and Joker were carrying the Nuggets in the playoffs.

I feel Brown has 8-12 weeks to show Ainge something for them to pay him around $20 million a year. If he continues to be the same player, Ainge should look to trade him if he can at the deadline.


Murray averaged 17 pts on .420 from the field as 2nd option on the Nuggets. He's a better passer and ball handler than Brown. Doesn't do anything else better than Brown- shoot, defend, rebound(even the 3s and Murray was known to be a shooter).


Murray is a year younger than JB, yet his career shooting includes .476 on 2's, .362 from the 3 and .879 on FTs on 23.3% usg to JB's .516, .365 and .658 on 20.8%. JB has been .030 better from 0-3', but Murray of course much better on FTs. Most advanced stats (WS, PER, BPM, etc.) favor Murray to date.

But I'm happy to roll with JB. His athleticism could still pay off beyond his skill limitations as a complement to more ball-handling scorers (eg, KW, JT and GH) in a starting lineup.
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Re: FIBA World Cup 

Post#1094 » by Parliament10 » Thu Sep 5, 2019 12:09 pm

cloverleaf wrote:
FlatearthZorro wrote:
return2glory wrote:
I know a lot of Celtic fans don’t want to here this, but Murray is so much better than Brown. The gap isn’t close. Murray and Joker were carrying the Nuggets in the playoffs.

I feel Brown has 8-12 weeks to show Ainge something for them to pay him around $20 million a year. If he continues to be the same player, Ainge should look to trade him if he can at the deadline.


Murray averaged 17 pts on .420 from the field as 2nd option on the Nuggets. He's a better passer and ball handler than Brown. Doesn't do anything else better than Brown- shoot, defend, rebound(even the 3s and Murray was known to be a shooter).


Murray is a year younger than JB, yet his career shooting includes .476 on 2's, .362 from the 3 and .879 on FTs on 23.3% usg to JB's .516, .365 and .658 on 20.8%. JB has been .030 better from 0-3', but Murray of course much better on FTs. Most advanced stats (WS, PER, BPM, etc.) favor Murray to date.

But I'm happy to roll with JB. His athleticism could still pay off beyond his skill limitations as a complement to more ball-handling scorers (eg, KW, JT and GH) in a starting lineup.

I'd really like to see Jaylen Brown improve his ballhandling. At the very least, bring the ball up.
If both JB and JT improve in that area, then they could negate Celtics need for a bona fide secondary ballhandler.

Of course, if Hayward is up to par, then that lessens the need for other ballhandlers.
This is Hayward's swansong, though. I lean toward trading him, if he's not back to Utah form.
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Re: FIBA World Cup 

Post#1095 » by Parliament10 » Thu Sep 5, 2019 12:23 pm

Greece and New Zealand playing for a spot in the 2nd Round.
The winner will be in "Group K" with likely, USA, Czech Republic and Brazil.
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Post#1096 » by Parliament10 » Thu Sep 5, 2019 12:35 pm

11-0 run to Start the game; USA.
This is going to be a rough game for Japan.
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Post#1097 » by Parliament10 » Thu Sep 5, 2019 12:38 pm

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Post#1098 » by BillTheGOAT » Thu Sep 5, 2019 12:46 pm

This will be a laugher.

If NZ could pull of the upset against Greece we won't face Giannis on Saturday.
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Post#1099 » by big-shot-ROB » Thu Sep 5, 2019 12:47 pm

Brown doesn't look good moving in half court sets
Robert Horry is better than MJ, because everybody knows that 7>6.
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Post#1100 » by Parliament10 » Thu Sep 5, 2019 12:52 pm

BillTheGOAT wrote:This will be a laugher.

If NZ could pull of the upset against Greece we won't face Giannis on Saturday.

This really is hard watch. Reminiscent of the Dream Team scores.

Greece is ahead. It'll be a bit tough, but I can't see them losing.
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