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Re: FIBA WORLD CUP 2019 

Post#1161 » by Sphynx » Thu Sep 5, 2019 12:03 pm

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Sphynx wrote:The Australian B team spanking Lith.


It's not a B team.


It’s missing at least 2 starters, arguably 3 and their best player.

All 3 their most athletic as well.
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Post#1162 » by seorang » Thu Sep 5, 2019 12:06 pm

Ozzies playing great ball here
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Post#1163 » by Gooner » Thu Sep 5, 2019 12:07 pm

Sphynx wrote:
Gooner wrote:
Sphynx wrote:The Australian B team spanking Lith.


It's not a B team.


It’s missing at least 2 starters, arguably 3 and their best player.

All 3 their most athletic as well.


I'm not sure that best player would be a great fit on this team. This system is all about ball movement and three point shooting, Simmons would change their style a bit.
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Post#1164 » by Gooner » Thu Sep 5, 2019 12:08 pm

seorang wrote:Ozzies playing great ball here


They have like 10 threes at the half, 5 by their big men. That's hard to stop.
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Re: FIBA WORLD CUP 2019 

Post#1165 » by Sphynx » Thu Sep 5, 2019 12:10 pm

Gooner wrote:
Sphynx wrote:
Gooner wrote:
It's not a B team.


It’s missing at least 2 starters, arguably 3 and their best player.

All 3 their most athletic as well.


I'm not sure that best player would be a great fit on this team. This system is all about ball movement and three point shooting, Simmons would change their style a bit.


One of the best passers in the NBA playing the point wouldnt make a ball movement side better.....ok

Not to mention his size and defending.

Simmons, Bolden and Exum would kill it in FIBA ball with their athleticism. Unlike the USA kids, they grew up with FIBA ball.
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Post#1166 » by Bob8 » Thu Sep 5, 2019 12:13 pm

I have to say that I really doubt that Thanasis would have been in Greek team if he have had different name. His career EuroLeague stats are 4/2/0. People might believe he’s very good defender, but even that is very questionable, because he’s just foul machine. He can play in Oaka, because referees are allowing anything there. He would fouled out in a minute in Nba.
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Post#1167 » by UcanUwill » Thu Sep 5, 2019 12:13 pm

Sphynx wrote:
Gooner wrote:
Sphynx wrote:
It’s missing at least 2 starters, arguably 3 and their best player.

All 3 their most athletic as well.


I'm not sure that best player would be a great fit on this team. This system is all about ball movement and three point shooting, Simmons would change their style a bit.


One of the best passes in the NBA playing the point wouldnt make a ball movement side better.....ok

Not to mention his size and defending.

Simmons, Bolden and Exum would kill it in FIBA ball with their athleticism. Unlike the USA kids, they grew up with FIBA ball.


I much rather play against Simmons than Mills. You are nothing in international basketball if you cant shoot.

Anyway, Lithuania made countless team defense errors, they obviously scared of their shooters and it hurts in pick and roll defense. That said, Australia cant shoot this well for entire game now can they?
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Post#1168 » by seorang » Thu Sep 5, 2019 12:16 pm

Sphynx wrote:
Gooner wrote:
Sphynx wrote:
It’s missing at least 2 starters, arguably 3 and their best player.

All 3 their most athletic as well.


I'm not sure that best player would be a great fit on this team. This system is all about ball movement and three point shooting, Simmons would change their style a bit.


One of the best passers in the NBA playing the point wouldnt make a ball movement side better.....ok

Not to mention his size and defending.

Simmons, Bolden and Exum would kill it in FIBA ball with their athleticism. Unlike the USA kids, they grew up with FIBA ball.

We're seeing how Giannis - who Simmons is a poor version of, struggling in FIBA ball, Simmons would be much worse.
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Post#1169 » by Sphynx » Thu Sep 5, 2019 12:18 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
Sphynx wrote:
Gooner wrote:
I'm not sure that best player would be a great fit on this team. This system is all about ball movement and three point shooting, Simmons would change their style a bit.


One of the best passes in the NBA playing the point wouldnt make a ball movement side better.....ok

Not to mention his size and defending.

Simmons, Bolden and Exum would kill it in FIBA ball with their athleticism. Unlike the USA kids, they grew up with FIBA ball.


I much rather play against Simmons than Mills. You are nothing in international basketball if you cant shoot.

Anyway, Lithuania made countless team defense errors, they obviously scared of their shooters and it hurts in pick and roll defense. That said, Australia cant shoot this well for entire game now can they?


Yeah, full time NBA sides struggle to stop him even without shooting, I’m sure the Euro sides would easily be able to do it...ffs.
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Post#1170 » by Sphynx » Thu Sep 5, 2019 12:19 pm

seorang wrote:
Sphynx wrote:
Gooner wrote:
I'm not sure that best player would be a great fit on this team. This system is all about ball movement and three point shooting, Simmons would change their style a bit.


One of the best passers in the NBA playing the point wouldnt make a ball movement side better.....ok

Not to mention his size and defending.

Simmons, Bolden and Exum would kill it in FIBA ball with their athleticism. Unlike the USA kids, they grew up with FIBA ball.

We're seeing how Giannis - who Simmons is a poor version of, struggling in FIBA ball, Simmons would be much worse.



Greece don’t have half the side of a full strength Australian lineup.

Also, Giannis isn’t anything really like Simmons at all, Simmons is by nature a pass first player from his Australian roots.
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Post#1171 » by notericjr » Thu Sep 5, 2019 12:21 pm

seorang wrote:
Sphynx wrote:
Gooner wrote:
I'm not sure that best player would be a great fit on this team. This system is all about ball movement and three point shooting, Simmons would change their style a bit.


One of the best passers in the NBA playing the point wouldnt make a ball movement side better.....ok

Not to mention his size and defending.

Simmons, Bolden and Exum would kill it in FIBA ball with their athleticism. Unlike the USA kids, they grew up with FIBA ball.

We're seeing how Giannis - who Simmons is a poor version of, struggling in FIBA ball, Simmons would be much worse.

giannis can't pass the ball like ben

lol imagine making the argument that a squad would somehow be worse off with the addition of a current nba all star
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Post#1172 » by rale93lfc » Thu Sep 5, 2019 12:21 pm

seorang wrote:
Sphynx wrote:
Gooner wrote:
I'm not sure that best player would be a great fit on this team. This system is all about ball movement and three point shooting, Simmons would change their style a bit.


One of the best passers in the NBA playing the point wouldnt make a ball movement side better.....ok

Not to mention his size and defending.

Simmons, Bolden and Exum would kill it in FIBA ball with their athleticism. Unlike the USA kids, they grew up with FIBA ball.

We're seeing how Giannis - who Simmons is a poor version of, struggling in FIBA ball, Simmons would be much worse.


I agree with you. Simmons would be easily to stop on FIBA rules. Patty Mills and Delly are more valuable to this Aus team then him. And Im not joking or being sarcastic.
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Post#1173 » by Royale81 » Thu Sep 5, 2019 12:23 pm

Anyone who says Simmons wouldn't make this Boomers squad a vastly better team doesn't know basketball.

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Post#1174 » by Sphynx » Thu Sep 5, 2019 12:25 pm

rale93lfc wrote:
seorang wrote:
Sphynx wrote:
One of the best passers in the NBA playing the point wouldnt make a ball movement side better.....ok

Not to mention his size and defending.

Simmons, Bolden and Exum would kill it in FIBA ball with their athleticism. Unlike the USA kids, they grew up with FIBA ball.

We're seeing how Giannis - who Simmons is a poor version of, struggling in FIBA ball, Simmons would be much worse.


I agree with you. Simmons would be easily to stop on FIBA rules. Petty Mills and Delly are more valuable to this Aus team then him. And Im not joking or being sarcastic.


What’s your definition of stop?

This is where he differs from Giannis.

Delly has been turnover merchant the first two rounds, Simmons as one of the best playmakers in the NBA is obviously a huge **** improvement.

Simmons would average something like 8/14/8 in this side in this comp.
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Post#1175 » by UcanUwill » Thu Sep 5, 2019 12:27 pm

rale93lfc wrote:
seorang wrote:
Sphynx wrote:
One of the best passers in the NBA playing the point wouldnt make a ball movement side better.....ok

Not to mention his size and defending.

Simmons, Bolden and Exum would kill it in FIBA ball with their athleticism. Unlike the USA kids, they grew up with FIBA ball.

We're seeing how Giannis - who Simmons is a poor version of, struggling in FIBA ball, Simmons would be much worse.


I agree with you. Simmons would be easily to stop on FIBA rules. Patty Mills and Delly are more valuable to this Aus team then him. And Im not joking or being sarcastic.


Australia is leading because all players can shoot and did hit a 3, even bigs Landale and Baynes. I wish Simmons was in this game, I guess he could be good as Center, but put him at perimeter and he is total liability

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Post#1176 » by BarbaGrizz » Thu Sep 5, 2019 12:29 pm

Don't want to bite my tongue but Bruno Caboclo is the best defender of the WC so far.
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Post#1177 » by Sofia » Thu Sep 5, 2019 12:29 pm

lol @ Baynes being forced to sub out because he had an NBA logo on his arm sleeve.
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Post#1178 » by Sphynx » Thu Sep 5, 2019 12:32 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
rale93lfc wrote:
seorang wrote:We're seeing how Giannis - who Simmons is a poor version of, struggling in FIBA ball, Simmons would be much worse.


I agree with you. Simmons would be easily to stop on FIBA rules. Patty Mills and Delly are more valuable to this Aus team then him. And Im not joking or being sarcastic.


Australia is leading because all players can shoot and did hit a 3, even bigs Landale and Baynes. I wish Simmons was in this game, I guess he could be good as Center, but put him at perimeter and he is total liability

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Yes, current NBA All-Star, a 6”10 PG, who averages 8 assists a game over a his career would be a total liability on the perimeter against vastly weaker opposition. Lol

If Delly looks like a creative star what do you reckon Simmons would look like?
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Post#1179 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Sep 5, 2019 12:32 pm

Does Australia have any young guards in their development pipeline to replace Mills and Delly? (outside of Simmons and Exum)
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Post#1180 » by rale93lfc » Thu Sep 5, 2019 12:35 pm

Sphynx wrote:
rale93lfc wrote:
seorang wrote:We're seeing how Giannis - who Simmons is a poor version of, struggling in FIBA ball, Simmons would be much worse.


I agree with you. Simmons would be easily to stop on FIBA rules. Petty Mills and Delly are more valuable to this Aus team then him. And Im not joking or being sarcastic.


What’s your definition of stop?

This is where he differs from Giannis.

Delly has been turnover merchant the first two rounds, Simmons as one of the best playmakers in the NBA is obviously a huge **** improvement.

Simmons would average something like 8/14/8 in this side in this comp.


Maybe if they would put him on C or PF. He would have less assists then NBA because of FIBA rules and players would shrink the floor and stay in paint even longer, so it's harder to get assists. For F sake Giannis is struggling with this rules, Simmons would be even worser.

I would literally play Mills insted of him at PG.

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