FIBA WORLD CUP 2019 | SPAIN are new WORLD CHAMPIONS

[Royale81]

100% Correct, we always struggle against teams we should beat. It has cost us before at tournaments.

Lemanis is a TERRIBLE coach, who's lucky to be coach of an NBL side. Thankfully Bogut/Ingles/Patty/Delly are there with their high Ball IQ's as you can see them talking heaps in timeouts and breaks. Why Landale only played a handful of minutes against Senega, I have no idea. They had 4 players on the court over 6'7 and we were playing Delly/Patty/Goulding and then Ingles or Kay at the 4 and getting killed on the O Boards.

I laugh at the lack of respect we get shown by the European fans. We've finished 4th at four Olympics (robbed of Bronze at the last Olympics) and made 4 x Semi finals and 6 x Qtr finals at Olympics. And this is our deepest lineup, even whilst missing at least 4 players who would be in our best 10.

Our biggest problem is now coaching and I hope we realise that before next year's Olympics

It's no lack of respect. Every European fan that knows the game, respects Australia's basketball, even their league. The thing that is true, that Europeans say, is Australia has a ridiculous built in advantage, especially versus European teams. If Australia was in Europe's qualifying system, they wouldn't even have made it to several of those tournaments.

It's just that Australia has a ridiculous level advantage, and that's annoying especially to European teams, because of how incredibly hard it is to qualify for these tournaments through Europe. It's nothing at all about a lack of respect for the Australian NT, or its level.

Also, once you get to the actual Olympics....this seems the same viewpoint from Australians as Americans - that Olympics is the superior basketball competition for international play of national teams. That's just completely wrong though. EuroBasket is the best level, then World Cup, and then the Olympics. It's the 3rd tournament in terms of the level of competition.

So judging Australia's level on them always being guaranteed to qualify, because of their incredibly easy road to the Olympics, and then judging just by play at the 3rd level competition - well, that is not very accurate at all. So no lack of respect from European fans, just more fairness and objectivity being applied to Australia's real situation.

The real situation is Australia just beat Lithuania.

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[pootbrah]

PATTY!!!

[Grits n Gravy]

Given ourselves a chance down 5 going into the 4th. I fully expect Greece to close it out. Need Corey Webster to get white hot if we are to have a chance.

[Porz]

Maui wovie, this was intense, like both are playing for Bronze or smt. I guess they wanted to avoid USA down the road.

[pootbrah]

Has Corey Webster been killing it all world cup? He fell off a cliff this past nbl season

[mixerball]

Really? Now people want to bring out the whole “see how tough FIBA is” bull?

When we brought some of our big guns, it wasn’t much of a competition, even Serbia got annihilated.

This team here is bang average, it’s not well constructed and most of all, it doesn’t have any chemistry because it was completely newly assembled. If the talent isn’t great enough to overcome the lack of team chemistry, this is the end result.

And as I said, this squad isn’t well constructed and just not that good.

With that being said, Turkey deserved the win but they choked.

its not bull. atleast for the nba in the last two years when you cant defend anymore.
also the rest of the world didnt regress or stayed the same. the rest of the world got better. this serbia team is complete and a lot better than before.

Still, if the likes of Durant, Curry, Harden etc. were to participate and if this team had put a little more emphasis on adding some actual big men, there wouldn't be a squad that could beat us. There have been better teams than this Serbia who challenged us.

honestly, with the emergence of jokic and serbia having a full roster i dont think there has been a better team to chellenge team US

about mega stars you mentioned. you may be right. but everything is hypothetical until it happens.

[Hroz]

Might wait to make sure Greece secure Australia s spot in the Olympics before I go to bed

[pootbrah]

Maui wovie, this was intense, like both are playing for Bronze or smt. I guess they wanted to avoid USA down the road.

Serbia is the team to avoid. I put the US on the same tier as France and Aus with Serbia as clear favourites.

[Grits n Gravy]

Has Corey Webster been killing it all world cup? He fell off a cliff this past nbl season

Yeah he's been good, he always crushes it on the national team for some reason. He's like our version of Patty Mills.

[rale93lfc]

When Simmons learn to do cross over like this, put Valenciunas on skates then hit a cluch 3pt, pm me.

What a shoot by Mills.

No one is talking to you. You just don't know basketball if all you look at is "shoot"

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Cant play modern basketball if you can't shoot. Even centers are hitting 3s easy these days. Hope Philly will trade him soon so they can win Eeast at least. Just look at his PO performance, it was terrible. He wasok during regular season doing fancy dunks and assist, but when it metters he is nowhere to be found.

[Hroz]

100% Correct, we always struggle against teams we should beat. It has cost us before at tournaments.

Lemanis is a TERRIBLE coach, who's lucky to be coach of an NBL side. Thankfully Bogut/Ingles/Patty/Delly are there with their high Ball IQ's as you can see them talking heaps in timeouts and breaks. Why Landale only played a handful of minutes against Senega, I have no idea. They had 4 players on the court over 6'7 and we were playing Delly/Patty/Goulding and then Ingles or Kay at the 4 and getting killed on the O Boards.

I laugh at the lack of respect we get shown by the European fans. We've finished 4th at four Olympics (robbed of Bronze at the last Olympics) and made 4 x Semi finals and 6 x Qtr finals at Olympics. And this is our deepest lineup, even whilst missing at least 4 players who would be in our best 10.

Our biggest problem is now coaching and I hope we realise that before next year's Olympics

It's no lack of respect. Every European fan that knows the game, respects Australia's basketball, even their league. The thing that is true, that Europeans say, is Australia has a ridiculous built in advantage, especially versus European teams. If Australia was in Europe's qualifying system, they wouldn't even have made it to several of those tournaments.

It's just that Australia has a ridiculous level advantage, and that's annoying especially to European teams, because of how incredibly hard it is to qualify for these tournaments through Europe. It's nothing at all about a lack of respect for the Australian NT, or its level.

Also, once you get to the actual Olympics....this seems the same viewpoint from Australians as Americans - that Olympics is the superior basketball competition for international play of national teams. That's just completely wrong though. EuroBasket is the best level, then World Cup, and then the Olympics. It's the 3rd tournament in terms of the level of competition.

So judging Australia's level on them always being guaranteed to qualify, because of their incredibly easy road to the Olympics, and then judging just by play at the 3rd level competition - well, that is not very accurate at all. So no lack of respect from European fans, just more fairness and objectivity being applied to Australia's real situation.

The real situation is Australia just beat Lithuania.

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Yea what the Euro says is fair enough.
We compete in Asia to make the competitions or against NZ.

While a team like Slovenia can win Euro2017 then not qualify for World Cup 2019 because European competition is so tough and close.

[Sgt Major]

It's no lack of respect. Every European fan that knows the game, respects Australia's basketball, even their league. The thing that is true, that Europeans say, is Australia has a ridiculous built in advantage, especially versus European teams. If Australia was in Europe's qualifying system, they wouldn't even have made it to several of those tournaments.

It's just that Australia has a ridiculous level advantage, and that's annoying especially to European teams, because of how incredibly hard it is to qualify for these tournaments through Europe. It's nothing at all about a lack of respect for the Australian NT, or its level.

Also, once you get to the actual Olympics....this seems the same viewpoint from Australians as Americans - that Olympics is the superior basketball competition for international play of national teams. That's just completely wrong though. EuroBasket is the best level, then World Cup, and then the Olympics. It's the 3rd tournament in terms of the level of competition.

So judging Australia's level on them always being guaranteed to qualify, because of their incredibly easy road to the Olympics, and then judging just by play at the 3rd level competition - well, that is not very accurate at all. So no lack of respect from European fans, just more fairness and objectivity being applied to Australia's real situation.

The real situation is Australia just beat Lithuania.

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Yea what the Euro says is fair enough.
We compete in Asia to make the competitions or against NZ.

While a team like Slovenia can win Euro2017 then not qualify for World Cup 2019 because European competition is so tough and close.

The real reason was stupid qualifiers system implemented by FIBA.

@ Grey1769

Nope

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If this is in reference to the coach question, then I +1 you, sir!

Yep. For some reason quote option didn't work on Tapatalk, so I had to @ you.

[stitches]

Team USA are overpassing today.

[GimmeDat]

Has Corey Webster been killing it all world cup? He fell off a cliff this past nbl season

Says he wasn't healthy last NBL season. It'll be interesting this season for the Breakers because they signed an import to play over him, basically, but he's a NBL star when he's his 'usual' self.

[Archx]

It's no lack of respect. Every European fan that knows the game, respects Australia's basketball, even their league. The thing that is true, that Europeans say, is Australia has a ridiculous built in advantage, especially versus European teams. If Australia was in Europe's qualifying system, they wouldn't even have made it to several of those tournaments.

It's just that Australia has a ridiculous level advantage, and that's annoying especially to European teams, because of how incredibly hard it is to qualify for these tournaments through Europe. It's nothing at all about a lack of respect for the Australian NT, or its level.

Also, once you get to the actual Olympics....this seems the same viewpoint from Australians as Americans - that Olympics is the superior basketball competition for international play of national teams. That's just completely wrong though. EuroBasket is the best level, then World Cup, and then the Olympics. It's the 3rd tournament in terms of the level of competition.

So judging Australia's level on them always being guaranteed to qualify, because of their incredibly easy road to the Olympics, and then judging just by play at the 3rd level competition - well, that is not very accurate at all. So no lack of respect from European fans, just more fairness and objectivity being applied to Australia's real situation.

The real situation is Australia just beat Lithuania.

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Yea what the Euro says is fair enough.
We compete in Asia to make the competitions or against NZ.

While a team like Slovenia can win Euro2017 then not qualify for World Cup 2019 because European competition is so tough and close.

FIBA locked out basically best Slovenian players out of qualifiers and even schedule was so stupid that Doncic couldn't play because he was still in the US. FIBA rules, when it comes to qualifying, are one of the most ridiculous you'll ever find. Also the fact that the current EU champ doesn't get instant invite to world cup is mind boggling.

[GimmeDat]

When Simmons learn to do cross over like this, put Valenciunas on skates then hit a cluch 3pt, pm me.

What a shoot by Mills.

No one is talking to you. You just don't know basketball if all you look at is "shoot"

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Cant play modern basketball if you can't shoot. Even centers are hitting 3s easy these days. Hope Philly will trade him soon so they can win Eeast at least. Just look at his PO performance, it was terrible. He wasok during regular season doing fancy dunks and assist, but when it metters he is nowhere to be found.

When Patty Mills learns to grow to 6'10, become a savant level passer/ball handler, pm me also.

Guess what, different players have strengths and weaknesses.

I agree that generally speaking not being able to shoot is a big poison pill for basketball value more than ever, but if Simmons could shoot he'd be a bona fide superstar, because he is exceptional in so many other areas of the game. I'd love to see him with a J too but it's just silly to argue that he's not an incredibly good basketball player in spite of that weakness.

[rale93lfc]

The real situation is Australia just beat Lithuania.

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Yea what the Euro says is fair enough.
We compete in Asia to make the competitions or against NZ.

While a team like Slovenia can win Euro2017 then not qualify for World Cup 2019 because European competition is so tough and close.

FIBA locked out basically best Slovenian players out of qualifiers and even schedule was so stupid that Doncic couldn't play because he was still in the US. FIBA rules, when it comes to qualifying, are one of the most ridiculous you'll ever find. Also the fact that the current EU champ doesn't get instant invite to world cup is mind boggling.

I agree its stupid that Slovenia is not here.

But its same for everyone. Serbia didn't have NBA players and Euroleague ones too. It just comes to that who have bigger number of good players in national poll. That was Slovenian problem, they got like 15 great players but rest are not so good.

Australia plays better then Greece btw.

[GimmeDat]

The real situation is Australia just beat Lithuania.

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Yea what the Euro says is fair enough.
We compete in Asia to make the competitions or against NZ.

While a team like Slovenia can win Euro2017 then not qualify for World Cup 2019 because European competition is so tough and close.

FIBA locked out basically best Slovenian players out of qualifiers and even schedule was so stupid that Doncic couldn't play because he was still in the US. FIBA rules, when it comes to qualifying, are one of the most ridiculous you'll ever find. Also the fact that the current EU champ doesn't get instant invite to world cup is mind boggling.

I do agree that we have it easy compared to Europe in particular when it comes to qualifying. It certainly is disappointing when great Euro teams are omitted when certain other countries just clearly cannot compete at this level (Cote D'Ivoire, Phillipines, Korea, Jordan, Angola just get pumped every game and are clearly just making up the numbers).

By all means, I want to see other continents represented, and it's great to see them out there competing, but what's the point if they're going to get pumped by 50 by any semi-competent WC team.

[seorang]

Giannis got a lot of NBA calls this game....

[rale93lfc]

No one is talking to you. You just don't know basketball if all you look at is "shoot"

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Cant play modern basketball if you can't shoot. Even centers are hitting 3s easy these days. Hope Philly will trade him soon so they can win Eeast at least. Just look at his PO performance, it was terrible. He wasok during regular season doing fancy dunks and assist, but when it metters he is nowhere to be found.

When Patty Mills learns to grow to 6'10, become a savant level passer/ball handler, pm me also.

Guess what, different players have strengths and weaknesses.

I agree that generally speaking not being able to shoot is a big poison pill for basketball value more than ever, but if Simmons could shoot he'd be a bona fide superstar, because he is exceptional in so many other areas of the game. I'd love to see him with a J too but it's just silly to argue that he's not an incredibly good basketball player in spite of that weakness.

I just don't believe in guy untill he learns how to shoot. I think media hype helped him a lot. And I really think that, if Philly had istead some player like Conley, Jrue Holiday would win the east. Just see the series against Boston 2 years how easily they defended him. His +- was ridiculus.

They lost 4-1 and his +- was:
-21
-23
-11
+5 (yay)
-13

Last season, let's take Eastern finals vs Toronto:
-7
+2
+7 (this game Embiid was +32, Butler +28,Reddick +22, Harris +20)
-16 (Embiid +17 lol)
-8
+4 (Embiid +40)
+2
His team was 0 times in this 12 matches more than 7 points in plus when he played.

When sh** get serious, teams defend him easily because his bad shooting, and that is the fact. Team with him in a team would not be able to win ring unless he improves that. I don't have nothing against the guy really, it's just a fact. And im saying he would be even easier to defend on FIBA rules. (cause of no def 3 sec) He is bassicly Shawn Livingston without great post up game which Livingston had.