FIBA WORLD CUP 2019 | SPAIN are new WORLD CHAMPIONS

Maf · Post #1441 » by **Maf** » Sat Sep 7, 2019 9:53 am

Pachinko_ wrote:How is Czechia so good? I only know Satoransky...

Dude I have no idea. Before tournament I said if we could win against Japan I'd be satisfied.

Maf · Post #1442 » by **Maf** » Sat Sep 7, 2019 9:55 am

TheDiesel36 wrote:
Pachinko_ wrote:How is Czechia so good? I only know Satoransky...

Well, Satoransky is phenomenal, that is a big part, guys like Bohacik and Balvin are playing at their absolute ceiling and the team has plenty of experience together and is well-coached. Big part of it is Brazilian vets looking done

Plus defense and will. We have like EVERY 50/50 rebounds out there.

Gooner · Post #1443 » by **Gooner** » Sat Sep 7, 2019 9:55 am

Pachinko_ wrote:How is Czechia so good? I only know Satoransky...

It's that beer. They are flying all over the court.

TheDiesel36 · Post #1444 » by **TheDiesel36** » Sat Sep 7, 2019 10:00 am

Maf wrote:
TheDiesel36 wrote:
Pachinko_ wrote:How is Czechia so good? I only know Satoransky...

Well, Satoransky is phenomenal, that is a big part, guys like Bohacik and Balvin are playing at their absolute ceiling and the team has plenty of experience together and is well-coached. Big part of it is Brazilian vets looking done

Plus defense and will. We have like EVERY 50/50 rebounds out there.

Right now we are just playing out of our minds

stoo · Post #1445 » by **stoo** » Sat Sep 7, 2019 10:03 am

If Greece beat USA, all 4 teams from that group will have 3 wins each before last game.
Lithuania-France today is elimination game for both teams. The most important game so far in the tournament

Maf · Post #1446 » by **Maf** » Sat Sep 7, 2019 10:03 am

TheDiesel36 wrote:
Maf wrote:
TheDiesel36 wrote:Well, Satoransky is phenomenal, that is a big part, guys like Bohacik and Balvin are playing at their absolute ceiling and the team has plenty of experience together and is well-coached. Big part of it is Brazilian vets looking done

Plus defense and will. We have like EVERY 50/50 rebounds out there.

Right now we are just playing out of our minds

A díky MS vidíme, kolik Čechů tady je. :lol:

Gooner · Post #1447 » by **Gooner** » Sat Sep 7, 2019 10:04 am

TheDiesel36 wrote:
Maf wrote:
TheDiesel36 wrote:Well, Satoransky is phenomenal, that is a big part, guys like Bohacik and Balvin are playing at their absolute ceiling and the team has plenty of experience together and is well-coached. Big part of it is Brazilian vets looking done

Plus defense and will. We have like EVERY 50/50 rebounds out there.

Right now we are just playing out of our minds

Crazy level. Satroansky is underrated in the NBA.

Gooner · Post #1448 » by **Gooner** » Sat Sep 7, 2019 10:05 am

stoo wrote:If Greece beat USA, all 4 teams from that group will have 3 wins each before last game.
Lithuania-France today is elimination game for both teams. The most important game so far in the tournament

Not necessarily. France could lose to Lithuania, but win against Australia would make things complicated.

Beorn · Post #1449 » by **Beorn** » Sat Sep 7, 2019 10:12 am

Special crate of Slivovica arrived last night, and the results are obvious today. Good job Czechs!

stoo · Post #1450 » by **stoo** » Sat Sep 7, 2019 10:27 am

Gooner wrote:
stoo wrote:If Greece beat USA, all 4 teams from that group will have 3 wins each before last game.
Lithuania-France today is elimination game for both teams. The most important game so far in the tournament

Not necessarily. France could lose to Lithuania, but win against Australia would make things complicated.

U r right.. Somehow I missed that.. It is a must win for Lithuania tho

TheDiesel36 · Post #1451 » by **TheDiesel36** » Sat Sep 7, 2019 10:51 am

Maf wrote:
TheDiesel36 wrote:
Maf wrote:

Plus defense and will. We have like EVERY 50/50 rebounds out there.

Right now we are just playing out of our minds

A díky MS vidíme, kolik Čechů tady je.

Je super, že jsme i na americkejch forech

limbo · Post #1452 » by **limbo** » Sat Sep 7, 2019 10:59 am

Always thought Satoransky was an underrated player in the NBA. A lot of teams continually started PG's worse than him. And now he's moved from one banter team in Washington to another in Chicago.

dantas · Post #1453 » by **dantas** » Sat Sep 7, 2019 11:28 am

The Brazilian team is very old. Barbosa and Varejao cannot carry them throughout the tournament. They need fresh blood

Mickey8 · Post #1454 » by **Mickey8** » Sat Sep 7, 2019 11:40 am

Chuck Diesel wrote:People need to chill out on talking about this Serbia team like they’ve done anything but massacre far inferior “fun sized” squads and eventually pull away from a C+ Italy team. So much premature crowing.

What to say about USA-Japan mismatch then :wink:

UcanUwill · Post #1455 » by **UcanUwill** » Sat Sep 7, 2019 11:46 am

limbo wrote:Always thought Satoransky was an underrated player in the NBA. A lot of teams continually started PG's worse than him. And now he's moved from one banter team in Washington to another in Chicago.

I always amazed how NBA hardens players so much better sometimes. Like, I wasnt a huge Satoransky fan in Barcelona, he was just ok, but few seasons in the NBA, and he is so much better now. Same happened to Scola, De Colo and countless other players.

PZiv · Post #1456 » by **PZiv** » Sat Sep 7, 2019 11:53 am

So let me get this straight, idk how this 2nd round thing works but bare with me:

If Greece and Brazil lose both to US, that creates a triangle with Czechia, Greece and Brazil
Czechia has 22pt win against Brazil
Brazil has 1pt win against Greece
Greece has yet to play Czechia and has -1 from Brazil game.
So, if Greece doesn't win by margin of 12 against Czechia, both them and Brazilians fall out?

Can somebody check that for me?

HeatIn5 · Post #1457 » by **HeatIn5** » Sat Sep 7, 2019 11:54 am

just getting in here, sorry if this has been discussed at nauseam, USA -10.5? Or does Greece hang

Freighttrain · Post #1458 » by **Freighttrain** » Sat Sep 7, 2019 11:55 am

Does anyone from the EU know how to watch the USA vs Greece game? They don't transmit anything locally and EPSN+ isn't available my country..

The Rodzilla · Post #1459 » by **The Rodzilla** » Sat Sep 7, 2019 11:58 am

PZiv wrote:So let me get this straight, idk how this 2nd round thing works but bare with me:

If Greece and Brazil lose both to US, that creates a triangle with Czechia, Greece and Brazil
Czechia has 22pt win against Brazil
Brazil has 1pt win against Greece
Greece has yet to play Czechia and has -1 from Brazil game.
So, if Greece doesn't win by margin of 12 against Czechia, both them and Brazilians fall out?

Can somebody check that for me?

the points difference from the opening group is also counted, so Greece are currently +30 and Czech republic +29

lets say greece lose by 10pts against usa, that puts them +20 so they would need a 5pt win against czech republic

limbo · Post #1460 » by **limbo** » Sat Sep 7, 2019 11:58 am

Just went back to watch the highlights of the last World Cup Final in 2014 between the US and Serbia. Man, the talent disparity between that Team USA and this one is insane. People actually forget that Serbia was up 8 points in the first 5 minutes of that game, and then Kyrie happened. He just started pulling up and hitting everything and the score went from 15-7 to 19-35, lmao... Harden also came out scorching, No defense for that. Serbia got demoralized soon as the lead went above 20. Kyrie and Harden combined for 49 points on 17/23 shooting (9/11 from 3), lol.

The US misses that type of firepower in this tournament big time. I don't even think there's a player on that roster that can just take the ball and fill up the basket at will. Maybe Kemba, but he's tryna play team ball, while the 2014 had guys like Kyrie, Harden, Curry, Thompson. These guys are all impossible to guard. They just take the ball, make space, pull up and score or drive at will.

Also, as much as people like to clown Cousins and Faried, they had far more presence around the rim than any Big on this 2019 team. I like Turner, he's a solid starting C in the NBA, but Cousins is a professor compared to him when it comes to offense. Dude was a physical bully + had finesse and skill to his game, Turner has size and can block shots but he's kinda soft and clumsy. Faried was just a wad of energy. A workman that was strictly finishing plays, which is what you need when you have an overload of on-ball offensive talent as is. Now compare that to freaking Barnes, Tatum and Brown... all the same type of player. I'd rather have Trez Harrell, Julius Randle or even Thad Young.

Well, at least it will make for an interesting tourney.