bledredwine wrote:
That’s a terrible explanation. More missed shots = lower PER.
PER rewards the ability to create shots aka volume scoring less than it should, because in a lull, you need that guy who can take over and hit those shots.
Lol did you even read what DatAsh quoted? How is that a terrible explanation, it's literally one of the hugest flaws of a stat like PER, that you can keep chucking and make the value go up. So yes, it does reward volume shooting, saying that it doesn't shows a clear lack of understanding on how the statistic is calculated.
bledredwine wrote:And let’s not sit here and pretend that it’s the volume of 3 pointers here isn’t way higher and more achievable than its ever been.
Ok? Who here is pretending??? Classic strawman.
bledredwine wrote:PERs are higher all around and Jordan did it at a time where PERs of 30 did. not. happen.
You guys are ridiculous with your false logic. Go ahead and post the 27+ PER lists from both eras and tell me where it was more achievable. Give actual evidence and not BS that you fabricate. You both have no fabricated and even eliminated poor years to cherry pick. That I’m itself answers this thread.
At this point, it's clear to me you don't really care enough like other people do to read through these threads and make an actual well-thought out response. You're stumbling. Otherwise, maybe you would have seen the "actual evidence" I gave? About how league ORTG and pace was higher in each of Jordan's 30+ PER seasons than in LeBron's last 30+ PER season, 2013? Who here is fabricating information lol there is no grand conspiracy to denounce Michael Jordan I hope you know.
Here is how many players had 27+ PER in each of both players' 30+ PER seasons, and the average of the top four after Jordan/LeBron:
1988: 3 with 27+, 25.8 avg
1989: 2 with 27+, 25.88 avg
1990: 3 with 27+, 26.8 avg
1991: 3 with 27+, 26.55 avg
2009: 3 with 27+ (all three were 30+ actually), 27.55 avg
2010: 2 with 27+, 25.98 avg
2012: 2 with 27+, 26.23 avg
2013: 2 with 27+, 26.05 avg
Total Jordan-PER>30 era players: 11
Total James-PER>30 era players: 9
Average PER of all the top 4 guys each year (Jordan) ~ 26.26
Average PER of all the top 4 guys each year (LeBron) ~ 26.45
Would you look at that. By YOUR own "metric", there were more 27+ PER players in Jordan's mini-era here than LeBron's. Here is the actual evidence. Sooo...I guess it was easier for Jordan right? Even looking at the average PER of the rest of the top 4 each year shows a very slight increase for LeBron, so unless you think .19 makes that much of a difference, gtfo with this era inflation stuff. Again, the best stretch of LeBron's prime did not come in this current era!!! Shouldn't even need to be said to anyone who pays close attention.
Take a look in the mirror and realize that you can actually be a good poster because you know a lot about Jordan. All this mumbo jumbo stanning is probably why you feel like all of RealGM is against you lol.