Derrick Rose authors a book with a chapter on the Knicks

[Thugger HBC]

The team itself was awful. Bad fits all around, and Phil being hell bent on the triangle.

Glad that mess is over.

[MaseInYourFace]

Lol nothing we haven’t already beaten way past to death

[VECTORMAN]

our biggest problem was the team was terrible. if melo passed more how many more wins do you think we would have got with that terrible roster ? maybe 5

it's 3 years ago and most of the roster is out of the league or doesn't play really. what does that tell you ?

I don't necessarily disagree with you. It was nothing close to a championship roster. I just think it would have been a better team without Melo at that stage in his career. I think if Melo was a more willing team player and defender, the record would have been somewhat significantly better for sure, because everything revolved around him. I think he was the hardest star player to build around in the entire league, and that Phil's biggest mistake by far was the no-trade-clause.

That's just how I feel, and when you hear certain quotes from Melo's past coaches, and now Chauncey and Rose, it continues to confirm what I've always thought while watching the guy play- which is that Melo sabotaged his own tenure with the Knicks by being a selfish player when he should have been more of a leader at his salary and with all of the expectations and respect he demanded. Don't care how cool of a guy he was off the court.

Anyway, I'm tired of talking about the same thing with the same people. Can Brooklyn just sign him already so he can officially be dead to this fan base?

[Clyde_Style]

Will not read until Rose re-titles his memoir:

Riding The Train

[Clyde_Style]

Fug man, just tried to read through that excerpt from the book

and two-thirds of the way though I was



and had to stop

To hell with waterboarding! If I ever need to kidnap and torture a terrorist I'll chain them up and play the audio book of Rose narrating his biography over a set of headphones.

That was brutal

[BKlutch]

Will not read until Rose re-titles his memoir:

Riding The Train

I'm not sure that's the most fitting title. Perhaps it should be, "Running the Train"

[Clyde_Style]

Will not read until Rose re-titles his memoir:

Riding The Train

I'm not sure that's the most fitting title. Perhaps it should be, "Running the Train"

True

or shorten it to

Dat Train

[god shammgod]

our biggest problem was the team was terrible. if melo passed more how many more wins do you think we would have got with that terrible roster ? maybe 5

it's 3 years ago and most of the roster is out of the league or doesn't play really. what does that tell you ?

I don't necessarily disagree with you. It was nothing close to a championship roster. I just think it would have been a better team without Melo at that stage in his career. I think if Melo was a more willing team player and defender, the record would have been somewhat significantly better for sure, because everything revolved around him. I think he was the hardest star player to build around in the entire league, and that Phil's biggest mistake by far was the no-trade-clause.

That's just how I feel, and when you hear certain quotes from Melo's past coaches, and now Chauncey and Rose, it continues to confirm what I've always thought while watching the guy play- which is that Melo sabotaged his own tenure with the Knicks by being a selfish player when he should have been more of a leader at his salary and with all of the expectations and respect he demanded. Don't care how cool of a guy he was off the court.

Anyway, I'm tired of talking about the same thing with the same people. Can Brooklyn just sign him already so he can officially be dead to this fan base?

but you signed up a week ago

[god shammgod]

[HerSports85]

Two big takeaways from that:

1. Everyone knew Melo was a selfish player and wasn't gonna change. Phil was right to trade him, and probably should've done it sooner. Can't build a team around a guy like that.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY:

2. STEVE MILLS IS AN IDIOT AND HE'S STILL HERE AND HE'S EVEN MORE POWERFUL!

Steve Mills is talking all this black dude stuff with me, like we’re brothers and all this. He’s saying that s–t, making me think it’s going to make us closer. Come on, be yourself.

Honestly guys, we're f**ked. We're not going anywhere as long as Mills is here.

And exactly WTF is wrong with Mills quote on quote talking “black dude stuff”?

Ugh NVM let me just get out this thread

[Phish Tank]

our biggest problem was the team was terrible. if melo passed more how many more wins do you think we would have got with that terrible roster ? maybe 5

it's 3 years ago and most of the roster is out of the league or doesn't play really. what does that tell you ?

I don't necessarily disagree with you. It was nothing close to a championship roster. I just think it would have been a better team without Melo at that stage in his career. I think if Melo was a more willing team player and defender, the record would have been somewhat significantly better for sure, because everything revolved around him. I think he was the hardest star player to build around in the entire league, and that Phil's biggest mistake by far was the no-trade-clause.

That's just how I feel, and when you hear certain quotes from Melo's past coaches, and now Chauncey and Rose, it continues to confirm what I've always thought while watching the guy play- which is that Melo sabotaged his own tenure with the Knicks by being a selfish player when he should have been more of a leader at his salary and with all of the expectations and respect he demanded. Don't care how cool of a guy he was off the court.

Anyway, I'm tired of talking about the same thing with the same people. Can Brooklyn just sign him already so he can officially be dead to this fan base?

Which PBP are you? Might as well admit it....

[Capn'O]

if melo passed more how many more wins do you think we would have got with that terrible roster?

Still too many.

[Clyde_Style]

[Clyde_Style]

I'm guessing it is Bill Pidto trying out a more congenial approach this time instead of signing up again and flaming the whole board on their first post like they usually do.

[Chanel Bomber]

Rose-Melo-Phil was the Bermuda triangle of delusion.

I think I blocked that season from my memory. It’s as if it never happened. Let’s just say I’m glad D-Rose didn’t stick around.

[Kampuchea]

Did he talk about how he objectifies women and has orgies with his friends? Or did he portray himself as the victim again?

"We men" don't care what this scum has to say.

Phil was frequently a jackass? That's some groundbreaking information, thanks!

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

Two big takeaways from that:

1. Everyone knew Melo was a selfish player and wasn't gonna change. Phil was right to trade him, and probably should've done it sooner. Can't build a team around a guy like that.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY:

2. STEVE MILLS IS AN IDIOT AND HE'S STILL HERE AND HE'S EVEN MORE POWERFUL!

Steve Mills is talking all this black dude stuff with me, like we’re brothers and all this. He’s saying that s–t, making me think it’s going to make us closer. Come on, be yourself.

Honestly guys, we're f**ked. We're not going anywhere as long as Mills is here.

So many good posts itt so far, but I just wanted to do more than +1 this one. Great poasting, man.

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

So, you think the part where he says the team should have extended and traded him is just fine? Or where he could have stayed on as a mentor?

I'm sorry, his entire self evaluation in that passage is absolutely delusional.

This one too. Many of the things Rose said arrow straight to the heart of many of the problems. But he's absolutely delusional about his own role. [Albeit, that may be necessary for him mentally, at this point, in order to keep being able to play in the league.]

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

The wierd thing in the Rose quote from the OP is that there is absolutely no mention or reference to KP.

Which, again, shows complete lack of self-awareness. (We all saw the look aways.)

Even though he mentions Frank by name.

Weird dude. Amongst many other who are in the FO and/or have graced the bench.

[ITGM]

Steve Mills is talking all this black dude stuff with me, like we’re brothers and all this. He’s saying that s–t, making me think it’s going to make us closer. Come on, be yourself.