FIBA WORLD CUP 2019 | SPAIN are new WORLD CHAMPIONS

[SmartWentCrazy]

Take a look at the shots he's taking. Like I said, the majority of his shots are spot up 3's or shots near the end of the clock. He's not calling his own number too often.

If you want to think that the guy one guy not looking for his own shot is the guy who has the second most shots on the team, be my guest. But I think its asinine to claim that all Mitchell’s shots are in rhythm while others are forcing shots.

To each their own. I don't think shooting spot up jumpers and end of clock situations is forcing up shots. Those are must shoot situations. Mitchell has also played the most amount of minutes and has shot almost zero FT's. That brings up his attempts. His attempts per minute are less than Kemba, Middleton, Brown, White, Lopez, and Tatum. Count in the FT's as scoring attempts, and he's less than Barnes as well.

These are also stats through 5 games, does not include this morning's game where he shot 6 shots in 22 minutes. Don't want to do the math right now, but he's probably only ahead of Plumlee, Harris, and Smart in terms of scoring attempts per minute.

Your math is wrong. Through 4 games he’s 4th, behind Walker, Tatum and Middleton in shots per minute.

https://www.usab.com/~/media/5ad2a30a1980409fb723982357396de3.ashx

[SmartWentCrazy]

Take a look at the shots he's taking. Like I said, the majority of his shots are spot up 3's or shots near the end of the clock. He's not calling his own number too often.

If you want to think that the guy one guy not looking for his own shot is the guy who has the second most shots on the team, be my guest. But I think its asinine to claim that all Mitchell’s shots are in rhythm while others are forcing shots.

Maybe you'd have to watch more Jazz games to recognize that Donovan is not looking for his own shot. It's pretty self-evident to me that he is looking to make the best play, not to score the most. He is also playing more minutes than anyone else, so the "he is shooting the second-most on the team" doesn't really apply, as his shots per minute is lower than the majority of the team.

Or maybe you watch to much to observe in a manner that is absolute rather than relative in nature.

Donovan is playing fine. Ive got no qualms with him looking for his shot. I just think its utterly asinine and disingenuous to criticize others as “looking for their shot” while simultaneously praising Mitchell for not doing the same.

[LuDux1]

I have respect for the Czech Republic because that country has produced some good pornographic videos but unfortunately we will have to eliminate you from the tournament on Wednesday

I hope this doesn't damage the Australia-Czech international relations

Me too. I don't think Czechs completely forgot Munich Agreement

[Zeus LA]

Simmons, Maker, Exum, Bolden, Adel, all conveniently absent from the team.

“Aussie, Aussie, Aussie. White, White, White”
And yes I realize that Mills is black but apparently one is their quota limit.

Ignoring the inflammatory, uninformed last sentence:

Simmons: Withdrew - "I wanted to let everyone know that after consulting with my representation, I’ve made the difficult decision to forego playing in the World Cup in China this summer,” the statement read.

“I will still be heading back home to Australia to host my camps as well as train and play with the Boomers in the upcoming exhibition games. I’m really excited about the talent we have on the Boomers squad, especially moving closer to 2020 where I will be honoured and humbled to represent my country on the world’s biggest sporting stage at the Olympics in Tokyo.

Ultimately we decided it was best that I use the time in September to return to Philadelphia to acquaint myself with my new teammates and prepare for the upcoming NBA season.

“I appreciate Basketball Australia for their support and understanding. I look forward to working with the Boomers coaches and teammates over the next few weeks to start working towards our ultimate team goal of winning a medal at the Olympics.”

Link: https://www.news.com.au/sport/american-sports/nba/ben-simmons-has-reportedly-pulled-out-of-the-basketball-world-cup/news-story/509f0cadd681c65f36bb052649562d2e


Maker - Withdrew, instructed by Pistons - "While not injured, the decision to have Maker withdraw from the World Cup was made by the Detroit Pistons who preferred he focus on his own personal development "

Link: https://www.sportingnews.com/au/nba/news/fiba-basketball-world-cup-2019-thon-maker-detroit-pistons-australian-boomers-ben-simmons/iidb2uca8z4u1id8gio028iup


Exum - Injured, rehabbing partially torn patella - "Exum, who signed a three-year, $US 33 million ($A 49 million) contract extension with the Jazz last year, had surgery on a partially torn patella tendon in March.

The injury sidelined him for the rest the 2018-19 NBA season and ruled him out of the World Cup in China."

Link: https://www.smh.com.au/sport/basketball/exum-to-put-hand-up-for-tokyo-olympics-20190827-p52lab.html


Bolden - Withdrew - "Jonah Bolden has withdrawn from the Australian Boomers' 2019 FIBA World Cup squad due to personal reasons, Basketball Australia announced today.

The 23-year-old will return to Philadelphia, with the Boomers coaching staff set to confirm his replacement for the FIBA World Cup as well as this week's exhibition games against Team USA in Melbourne.

"My first thought is always with the player in these situations - having to withdraw from the national team is tough for anyone," Boomers head coach, Andrej Lemanis said."

Link: https://www.sportingnews.com/au/nba/news/jonah-bolden-withdraws-from-australian-boomers-fiba-world-cup-2019-squad/kw7bnqwcgmw91mwumh5ed87q7


Adel - Cut - "Boomers coach Andrej Lemanis has overlooked players with NBA experience in his final 12 selection for the World Cup in China.

Mitch Creek and Deng Adel, alongside 2016 Olympian Brock Motum, are the major omissions from a side that still boasts a wealth of NBA talent."

Link: https://7news.com.au/sport/basketball/boomers-big-cuts-in-final-world-cup-12-c-386960

[KqWIN]

If you want to think that the guy one guy not looking for his own shot is the guy who has the second most shots on the team, be my guest. But I think its asinine to claim that all Mitchell’s shots are in rhythm while others are forcing shots.

To each their own. I don't think shooting spot up jumpers and end of clock situations is forcing up shots. Those are must shoot situations. Mitchell has also played the most amount of minutes and has shot almost zero FT's. That brings up his attempts. His attempts per minute are less than Kemba, Middleton, Brown, White, Lopez, and Tatum. Count in the FT's as scoring attempts, and he's less than Barnes as well.

These are also stats through 5 games, does not include this morning's game where he shot 6 shots in 22 minutes. Don't want to do the math right now, but he's probably only ahead of Plumlee, Harris, and Smart in terms of scoring attempts per minute.

Your math is wrong. Through 4 games he’s 4th, behind Walker, Tatum and Middleton in shots per minute.

https://www.usab.com/~/media/5ad2a30a1980409fb723982357396de3.ashx

Using these numbers and and estimated number of possessions from FT's. Through 5 games:

[BoogieTime]

Harrison plays for Team USA as he does for the Kings. A solid veteran who can defend 3/4’s, have solid BBIQ, take a back seat to the existing core, stretch the floor, run the floor, and generally go unnoticed.

It still amazes me folks want to take shots at him for no reason, other than “reputation”

He may be overpaid, though optically it will look better as the cap rises and his contract descends, but players who “go unnoticed” around your core are not as abundant as they appear. You call it mediocrity, I call it solid, and the NBA comprises a lot of unsolid

[KqWIN]

Barnes is important because he's the most physical of the combo 4's. Brown and Middleton clearly play more like wings, and Tatum has been hurt but he played really tough against Turkey. It's crazy that USA didn't bring an athletic big. It's leading to a lot of mismatch of roles on both ends.

[lambchop]

Simmons, Maker, Exum, Bolden, Adel, all conveniently absent from the team.

“Aussie, Aussie, Aussie. White, White, White”
And yes I realize that Mills is black but apparently one is their quota limit.

Ignoring the inflammatory, uninformed last sentence:

Simmons: Withdrew - "I wanted to let everyone know that after consulting with my representation, I’ve made the difficult decision to forego playing in the World Cup in China this summer,” the statement read.

“I will still be heading back home to Australia to host my camps as well as train and play with the Boomers in the upcoming exhibition games. I’m really excited about the talent we have on the Boomers squad, especially moving closer to 2020 where I will be honoured and humbled to represent my country on the world’s biggest sporting stage at the Olympics in Tokyo.

Ultimately we decided it was best that I use the time in September to return to Philadelphia to acquaint myself with my new teammates and prepare for the upcoming NBA season.

“I appreciate Basketball Australia for their support and understanding. I look forward to working with the Boomers coaches and teammates over the next few weeks to start working towards our ultimate team goal of winning a medal at the Olympics.”

Link: https://www.news.com.au/sport/american-sports/nba/ben-simmons-has-reportedly-pulled-out-of-the-basketball-world-cup/news-story/509f0cadd681c65f36bb052649562d2e


Maker - Withdrew, instructed by Pistons - "While not injured, the decision to have Maker withdraw from the World Cup was made by the Detroit Pistons who preferred he focus on his own personal development "

Link: https://www.sportingnews.com/au/nba/news/fiba-basketball-world-cup-2019-thon-maker-detroit-pistons-australian-boomers-ben-simmons/iidb2uca8z4u1id8gio028iup


Exum - Injured, rehabbing partially torn patella - "Exum, who signed a three-year, $US 33 million ($A 49 million) contract extension with the Jazz last year, had surgery on a partially torn patella tendon in March.

The injury sidelined him for the rest the 2018-19 NBA season and ruled him out of the World Cup in China."

Link: https://www.smh.com.au/sport/basketball/exum-to-put-hand-up-for-tokyo-olympics-20190827-p52lab.html


Bolden - Withdrew - "Jonah Bolden has withdrawn from the Australian Boomers' 2019 FIBA World Cup squad due to personal reasons, Basketball Australia announced today.

The 23-year-old will return to Philadelphia, with the Boomers coaching staff set to confirm his replacement for the FIBA World Cup as well as this week's exhibition games against Team USA in Melbourne.

"My first thought is always with the player in these situations - having to withdraw from the national team is tough for anyone," Boomers head coach, Andrej Lemanis said."

Link: https://www.sportingnews.com/au/nba/news/jonah-bolden-withdraws-from-australian-boomers-fiba-world-cup-2019-squad/kw7bnqwcgmw91mwumh5ed87q7


Adel - Cut - "Boomers coach Andrej Lemanis has overlooked players with NBA experience in his final 12 selection for the World Cup in China.

Mitch Creek and Deng Adel, alongside 2016 Olympian Brock Motum, are the major omissions from a side that still boasts a wealth of NBA talent."

Link: https://7news.com.au/sport/basketball/boomers-big-cuts-in-final-world-cup-12-c-386960

Lol at how the dude literally thought Simmons wasn't on the team cause of his skin colour.

[SmartWentCrazy]

To each their own. I don't think shooting spot up jumpers and end of clock situations is forcing up shots. Those are must shoot situations. Mitchell has also played the most amount of minutes and has shot almost zero FT's. That brings up his attempts. His attempts per minute are less than Kemba, Middleton, Brown, White, Lopez, and Tatum. Count in the FT's as scoring attempts, and he's less than Barnes as well.

These are also stats through 5 games, does not include this morning's game where he shot 6 shots in 22 minutes. Don't want to do the math right now, but he's probably only ahead of Plumlee, Harris, and Smart in terms of scoring attempts per minute.

Your math is wrong. Through 4 games he’s 4th, behind Walker, Tatum and Middleton in shots per minute.

https://www.usab.com/~/media/5ad2a30a1980409fb723982357396de3.ashx

Using these numbers and and estimated number of possessions from FT's. Through 5 games:

And what your doing now is letting an outlier game bias downward Mitchell’s shots per minute so that you can act as if its representative of his play as a whole. Youve also excluded all exhibition games which wouldve more than offset the impact of this outlier:

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Again, I couldnt care less regarding how frequently Mitchell shoots— its just disingenuous to claim his shots are all in the flow of the game while criticizing others as “looking for their shots”. If you want to praise Mitchell, praise Mitchell. Dont create fictitious point at the expense of other players and act like this is a zero sum game.

[limbo]

One thing that is crystal clear to me without diving too deep into stats is how much better Kemba is offensively compared to the rest of the squad, which really shouldn't be news. He'll have the occasional off game where his shot isn't falling but outside of that, he always seems to be in control of what he wants to do out there and gets good shots off.

[KqWIN]

Your math is wrong. Through 4 games he’s 4th, behind Walker, Tatum and Middleton in shots per minute.

https://www.usab.com/~/media/5ad2a30a1980409fb723982357396de3.ashx

Using these numbers and and estimated number of possessions from FT's. Through 5 games:

And what your doing now is letting an outlier game bias downward Mitchell’s shots per minute so that you can act as if its representative of his play as a whole. Youve also excluded all exhibition games which wouldve more than offset the impact of this outlier:

Read on Twitter

Again, I couldnt care less regarding how frequently Mitchell shoots— its just disingenuous to claim his shots are all in the flow of the game while criticizing others as “looking for their shots”.

Well, I'm talking about how Mitchell is playing in the World Cup. I'm going to use the numbers from the world cup. You're the one who brought up numbers, so I observed that claim. Even if you decide to cherry pick out the last game, which is an extremely poor way to analyze, his usage rate is not among the leaders on the team.

I'm seeing the shots and telling you why they are different. Most of his shots are spot ups and end of clock. He's not breaking the offense as much as others. If you want to say my claim is disingenuous, we'll just have to agree to disagree. At the end of the day it's just words, which, speaking of being disingenuous, you are intentionally trying to twist.

[jinxed]

Simmons, Maker, Exum, Bolden, Adel, all conveniently absent from the team.

“Aussie, Aussie, Aussie. White, White, White”
And yes I realize that Mills is black but apparently one is their quota limit. Many people do not realize that up until 1972 Australia had a “whites only” immigration policy. Disgraceful.

The Aussie team would love for Simmons to play. He chose not to.
The Aussie team invited Maker to play, he chose not to.
Exum is hurt.
Bolden was invited to the team, he left for a personal matter to attend to.
Adel was cut so that Xavier Cook (who is biracial) could be on the roster -- but Cook tore his meniscus

[limbo]

I don't think Simmons would help Australia that much in this tournament tbh. He's like Giannis with a worse driving game and worse shooting. His lack of shooting would screw up how Australia thrives on offense.

[FlatearthZorro]

I don't think Simmons would help Australia that much in this tournament tbh. He's like Giannis with a worse driving game and worse shooting. His lack of shooting would screw up how Australia thrives on offense.

True, he's not as strong and physical as Giannis. And we all agreed that the way the game is played is different than the NBA(refs, zone defense, smaller court, no violations for sitting in the paint, etc)... In FIBA it seems as if you thrive if you're more versatile and fundamentally sound on offense ie shooting/driving.

On that note Barbosa looks like he still has it. Had a super solid tourney.

Satoransky has been impressive, Bulls fans must be happy(same goes for Bogdanovic and Kings fans).

Fournier has been pretty good, too.

[Darth Celtic]

One thing that is crystal clear to me without diving too deep into stats is how much better Kemba is offensively compared to the rest of the squad, which really shouldn't be news. He'll have the occasional off game where his shot isn't falling but outside of that, he always seems to be in control of what he wants to do out there and gets good shots off.

fake news. He's a celtic. = overrateded

go through this every year. Last 2 years Kyrie was injury prone and can't win without Lebron. Now he's going to bring the nets to the 3rd seed all by himself.

[gundysmullet]

Simmons, Maker, Exum, Bolden, Adel, all conveniently absent from the team.

“Aussie, Aussie, Aussie. White, White, White”
And yes I realize that Mills is black but apparently one is their quota limit. Many people do not realize that up until 1972 Australia had a “whites only” immigration policy. Disgraceful.

The Aussie team would love for Simmons to play. He chose not to.
The Aussie team invited Maker to play, he chose not to.
Exum is hurt.
Bolden was invited to the team, he left for a personal matter to attend to.
Adel was cut so that Xavier Cook (who is biracial) could be on the roster -- but Cook tore his meniscus

Simmons and Exum, ok. But you're telling me that Maker, who played in 3rd rate random Tourneys for OZ (he played in that game where there was a brawl with Philippines), all of a sudden he's not gonna play in the WC? Not buying it. and I heard the staff didn't like Bolden and Adel is superior to some of the pasty white dudes that made the squad, but again, they're white, so that's priority #1 for Australia. Oh, and what about Nathan Jawai? Oh never mind, he's really dark, no chance at all for him to make the squad. You're country is really racist man, own it.

Strike and given some time out.

-Zimpy27

[Porz]

Simmons, Maker, Exum, Bolden, Adel, all conveniently absent from the team.

“Aussie, Aussie, Aussie. White, White, White”
And yes I realize that Mills is black but apparently one is their quota limit. Many people do not realize that up until 1972 Australia had a “whites only” immigration policy. Disgraceful.

The Aussie team would love for Simmons to play. He chose not to.
The Aussie team invited Maker to play, he chose not to.
Exum is hurt.
Bolden was invited to the team, he left for a personal matter to attend to.
Adel was cut so that Xavier Cook (who is biracial) could be on the roster -- but Cook tore his meniscus

Simmons and Exum, ok. But you're telling me that Maker, who played in 3rd rate random Tourneys for OZ (he played in that game where there was a brawl with Philippines), all of a sudden he's not gonna play in the WC? Not buying it. and I heard the staff didn't like Bolden and Adel is superior to some of the pasty white dudes that made the squad, but again, they're white, so that's priority #1 for Australia. Oh, and what about Nathan Jawai? Oh never mind, he's really dark, no chance at all for him to make the squad. You're country is really racist man, own it.

Why is there no warning for this guy? Provoking hate.

[Sofia]

Gobert for a plate of fairy bread and half a pack of Tim Tams, who says no?

There’s no place for homophobic comments on this board.

wut

Google.com

[Sofia]

Simmons, Maker, Exum, Bolden, Adel, all conveniently absent from the team.

“Aussie, Aussie, Aussie. White, White, White”
And yes I realize that Mills is black but apparently one is their quota limit. Many people do not realize that up until 1972 Australia had a “whites only” immigration policy. Disgraceful.

The Aussie team would love for Simmons to play. He chose not to.
The Aussie team invited Maker to play, he chose not to.
Exum is hurt.
Bolden was invited to the team, he left for a personal matter to attend to.
Adel was cut so that Xavier Cook (who is biracial) could be on the roster -- but Cook tore his meniscus

Simmons and Exum, ok. But you're telling me that Maker, who played in 3rd rate random Tourneys for OZ (he played in that game where there was a brawl with Philippines), all of a sudden he's not gonna play in the WC? Not buying it. and I heard the staff didn't like Bolden and Adel is superior to some of the pasty white dudes that made the squad, but again, they're white, so that's priority #1 for Australia. Oh, and what about Nathan Jawai? Oh never mind, he's really dark, no chance at all for him to make the squad. You're country is really racist man, own it.

What the **** is this?

Have you seen Jawai play lately? He’s about as mobile as a three seater sofa and twice as heavy. He averaged 4.5 points and 2.3 rebounds in his recent stint in the French league

Everyone wants all the other players to play if they’re healthy/available

[Catchall]

I'm sure it's been discussed at some point, but I really wish Booker was on this team. They need that young guy who can go nuclear and I think he would have been great next to Mitchell.

Yeah, This was a perfect opportunity for him

Did Booker even get invited to play with the senior team?