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TreymondGreen wrote:jinxed wrote:The Hernangomez brother finally came out to play for Spain today. Both were awesome.
Rubio has a step-back three now that's actually pretty money.
We’ll see how well he can get it off against DOGGY DELLY
rale93lfc wrote:sunsbg wrote:It's obvious now Serbia was overrated. I don't even know where players like Jovic, Lucic, Micic played last season and I have watched some EL games.
With Serbia out, teams like France and Argentina can still give a trouble to USA team, so still an interesting tournament.
I can see you watched for sure. Micic played Euroleague final and was best player of Efes whole season. He wasn't expected to play at tournument at all because his mother was sick, but after injuries of Teodosic and Milosavljevic he stayed with a team to help. His mother died yasterday.
Something was wrong with Serbia last two games. Really sad for Micic. Then not using Milutinov at all and he was one of the best players in Olympiacos and one of the best centers in Euroleague. He was angry after game vs Italy. If there was some problems inside the team it will come out in next few daysm
I know Milutinov played for one of the greek teams, but I don't even know if he can shoot, all I have seen him do is dunk.peja_the_legend wrote:limbo wrote:Also, I might have written off Argentina too soon. They got some ballers there still. Apparently, Scola doesn't age and Campazzo, Deck, Laprovitolla, Garino, Vildoza are all big club players in Euroleague. If Serbia finishes 2nd in group, it's not going to be easy.
i think it's gonna be very easy.These 2 groups were ridiculously easy.I'm not sold on Argentina at all.Serbia front court will eat them alive.
Alatan wrote:I don understand players that go to represent their countries and then give zero effort on the court. Better don play at all.
Anyway congratulations Argentina you deserved to go further.
UcanUwill wrote:Alatan wrote:I don understand players that go to represent their countries and then give zero effort on the court. Better don play at all.
Anyway congratulations Argentina you deserved to go further.
Who were the players who gave zero effort?
juli_rc wrote:peja_the_legend wrote:limbo wrote:Also, I might have written off Argentina too soon. They got some ballers there still. Apparently, Scola doesn't age and Campazzo, Deck, Laprovitolla, Garino, Vildoza are all big club players in Euroleague. If Serbia finishes 2nd in group, it's not going to be easy.
i think it's gonna be very easy.These 2 groups were ridiculously easy.I'm not sold on Argentina at all.Serbia front court will eat them alive.
Alatan wrote:UcanUwill wrote:Alatan wrote:I don understand players that go to represent their countries and then give zero effort on the court. Better don play at all.
Anyway congratulations Argentina you deserved to go further.
Who were the players who gave zero effort?
Most of the Serbian squad. Mainly Bjelica and Jokic.
Riiiight.
LuDux1 wrote:Should Serbia tank?
txusto wrote:juli_rc wrote:peja_the_legend wrote:
i think it's gonna be very easy.These 2 groups were ridiculously easy.I'm not sold on Argentina at all.Serbia front court will eat them alive.
Arrogant serbians got owned
juli_rc wrote:txusto wrote:juli_rc wrote:
Arrogant serbians got owned
Big time!
DWadeno3 wrote:mixerball wrote:DWadeno3 wrote:
Well then...
i was wrong. i have no problem admitting it. are you feeling better now that you finally got to quote me again?
I just quoted you because you were oblivious to the fact that the 08-12 Spain side had proven to be really successful, thus there was a lot more evidence for their greatness compared to that of the Serbian national team. You didn’t deliver any and even claimed this Serbian team would’ve challenged our best/better national teams more than the golden generation of Spain. That was simply a little too much.
limbo wrote:Imo, the #1 problem why this Serbia team failed is that, from top to bottom, they just didn't know what they wanted to do out there. They had no blueprint on how they wanted to play basketball. One of the biggest questions was how to use Jokic. First he's starting games, next thing you know, the game after that, he's coming on 5 minutes after the tip, he plays the C for three minutes but then he's sliding into the 4 position, with Milutinov at the 5. While all this is happening, they are trying to figure out how much does Jokic facilitate the offense compared to their actual PG's. So they try and go with Jokic, but he doesn't quite have the space, movement, familiarity he gets with the Nuggets, so they go back to the PG's, but they both kinda suck, well, here's Bogdan lighting it up from everywhere, so why not just give him the ball and let him score. Wait, we brought Boban too. Throw him in randomly every couple of minutes and see if it does anything. Well, Bjelica is an NBA player too, give him the ball and see if he can do anything... It was just a complete mess. And even then, their offense had enough talent that it wasn't bad, but defensively they just dropped the ball.
I always tell people. It's harder to fit talent into one team and be successful than most folks think. A lot of players are simply not going to be comfortable in different roles. This is especially true for a team like the USA, who have multiple players that are use to having the ball in their hands for every other night for 80-100 games in a season. It's hard to make that adjustment in a couple of weeks, especially if you are coming from the NBA which can be a completely different basketball game than under FIBA rules.
Chuck Diesel wrote:The Serbs need to clean house, hire an NBA assistant coach and have Jokic or Bogdanovic help naturalize one of their NBA teammates. Beg forgiveness of Kalinic and they might become relevant again.
Pumpkin17 wrote:limbo wrote:Imo, the #1 problem why this Serbia team failed is that, from top to bottom, they just didn't know what they wanted to do out there. They had no blueprint on how they wanted to play basketball. One of the biggest questions was how to use Jokic. First he's starting games, next thing you know, the game after that, he's coming on 5 minutes after the tip, he plays the C for three minutes but then he's sliding into the 4 position, with Milutinov at the 5. While all this is happening, they are trying to figure out how much does Jokic facilitate the offense compared to their actual PG's. So they try and go with Jokic, but he doesn't quite have the space, movement, familiarity he gets with the Nuggets, so they go back to the PG's, but they both kinda suck, well, here's Bogdan lighting it up from everywhere, so why not just give him the ball and let him score. Wait, we brought Boban too. Throw him in randomly every couple of minutes and see if it does anything. Well, Bjelica is an NBA player too, give him the ball and see if he can do anything... It was just a complete mess. And even then, their offense had enough talent that it wasn't bad, but defensively they just dropped the ball.
I always tell people. It's harder to fit talent into one team and be successful than most folks think. A lot of players are simply not going to be comfortable in different roles. This is especially true for a team like the USA, who have multiple players that are use to having the ball in their hands for every other night for 80-100 games in a season. It's hard to make that adjustment in a couple of weeks, especially if you are coming from the NBA which can be a completely different basketball game than under FIBA rules.
Completely agree. USA would be better bringing top NBA rosters altogether with non-US players replaced by best alternatives. Systems will be collaudated and roles clearer.