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Re: FIBA WORLD CUP 2019 

Post#3021 » by Sir Psycho Sexy » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:34 pm

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In a week? That's fast, so players will get some rest before the actual games then, good.

It's 4 games

2 groups of 3 teams playing each other. Then semi finals then finals. The one in Belgrade in 2016 was Serbia, Latvia, Puerto Rico, Czech Republic, Angola and Japan. We cruised through those


Im curious now, when is a draw and group selection? November or something like that or?

My guess is after they find 3 countries that are desperate enough to pay for organizing it :lol:
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Post#3022 » by Spanish_Laker » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:35 pm

But Marcus Smart or R.White were better fits than Kyle Kuzma...GG WP master Popovich, what an embarassing show!
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Post#3023 » by G R E Y » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:43 pm

Spanish_Laker wrote:But Marcus Smart or R.White were better fits than Kyle Kuzma...GG WP master Popovich, what an embarassing show!

*sigh* White was brought on after I think Fox dropped out. Kuzma got injured. Coaches and players were lamenting his loss in interviews, not sure if you've read them. With Kuzma out, it left the roster at 12. And then Tatum got injured for the last four games, and he was a starter.
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Post#3024 » by UcanUwill » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:48 pm

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drekwins wrote:Is this box score correct? Did Serbia really jump out to a 32-7 lead? This could have easily been USA's 4th loss this summer. We should have not won the Turkey game.

Australia
France
Serbia
Turkey (stole)

Turkey and Australia are not big-time teams. The NBA needs to address how soft they have made the game. It's making our players and the product worse.


Australia is legit. One of the best teams in the world currently


Legit? In America, only the number 1 or 2 contenders matter. We don't care about team number 5, 6 or 7. Australia is not a bad team whatsoever. But, they not Serbia, Spain or France. Greece, Lithuania, Argentina, Croatia, Slovenia and Australia are in the next group.

There's a big difference between good teams that compete, and the powerhouses. Australia is not a powerhouse and should never beat America. There's deeper issues related to the development of American players and the rules of the NBA.


I dont think Australia is much worse than Spain at all. Top 3 talent is probably USA, Serbia and maybe France, but then its wide open, can easily make a case for Australia being top 4 team in the world right now.
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Post#3025 » by TheNewEra » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:51 pm

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with Fox gone who is going to do it? Kemba is allergic to defense and mitchell is too busy chucking


Yeah, in retrospect, Fox would have been better for this tournament than any guard on the roster. He would create a lot of havoc on both ends.

Overall, though, this team is small and full of non-shooters. They have the same weaknesses as a HS or college team. That's not a coincidence. The NBA has made the rules softer so that more advanced development is no longer needed to succeed. Guys can now succeed in the NBA with mid-level skills.

You guys make it seem as if other guys were chosen over Fox. Fox declined to stay on the team. I mean, these discussions of other players so often concern those who decided not to commit and I find it so bizarre.



I thought I read that Fox quit before he was going to be cut. The game he struggled in and didn’t receive a lot of minutes led to the belief he wasn’t going to be involved as much.
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Post#3026 » by G R E Y » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:52 pm

Is Poland hanging with Czechs a surprise? Haven't seen them play before.
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Post#3027 » by TheNewEra » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:52 pm

They should of brought Melo around just to hopefully get a boost in team morale because guys wanted him there
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Post#3028 » by G R E Y » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:56 pm

TheNewEra wrote:They should of brought Melo around just to hopefully get a boost in team morale because guys wanted him there

My sense is that with this being a transition team, the wanted new guys in the program. At some point, you have to move on from the previous group, and with the focus being defense, can you honestly say Melo would have been a fit even if he were younger and not looking at Team USA as a means of getting his foot in the playing time door?
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Post#3029 » by THE J0KER » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:56 pm

Imagine if Eastern Conference last season played on this FIBA system (one game knockout game instead of best of seven series), so in the quarterfinal of the East, as we know what happened in the game one of Philadelphia-Brooklyn and Toronto-Orlando series, there were shocking upsets with Nets and Magic beat Sixers and Raptors, and in that case Toronto and Philadelphia would play 5-8 place relegation game instead of semifinal game. That is how I see today USA-Serbia game :lol:
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Post#3030 » by MagicFrenchie » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:56 pm

GREY 1769 wrote:Is Poland hanging with Czechs a surprise? Haven't seen them play before.


half a surprise, czech are supposed to be better, but a lot of fatigue on their shoulders plus questions about motivation....
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Post#3031 » by Johnny Firpo » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:58 pm

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No, Australia is not a favorite according to bookmakers. And for me, France is probably the biggest favorite. Though I will support Argentina till the end. :)


I will probably put some money on France, that team is great.


I put €500 on Australia at 1:32 odds before the start of the tournament. Two more wins and I make €16000.

Odds were too good not to try.


Holy crap, that's an amazing bet, I feel bad now knowing about it. :D I would have put at least 200 bucks on this if I'm more up to date on the odds.
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Post#3032 » by gh123 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:58 pm

Sir Psycho Sexy wrote:
rale93lfc wrote:
Sir Psycho Sexy wrote:It's 4 games

2 groups of 3 teams playing each other. Then semi finals then finals. The one in Belgrade in 2016 was Serbia, Latvia, Puerto Rico, Czech Republic, Angola and Japan. We cruised through those


Im curious now, when is a draw and group selection? November or something like that or?

My guess is after they find 3 countries that are desperate enough to pay for organizing it :lol:


I just wonder if Luka is gonna go. He likely will, coz our chances of making PO are very low, so he'll be well rested. Take a month break, watch some NBA PO, then head to Slovenia and prepare for the qualification.
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Post#3033 » by MagicFrenchie » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:01 pm

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I will probably put some money on France, that team is great.


I put €500 on Australia at 1:32 odds before the start of the tournament. Two more wins and I make €16000.

Odds were too good not to try.


Holy crap, that's an amazing bet, I feel bad now knowing about it. :D I would have put at least 200 bucks on this if I'm more up to date on the odds.


I honestly think they aren't going to get through Sapin.
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Post#3034 » by peja_the_legend » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:01 pm

gh123 wrote:
Sir Psycho Sexy wrote:
rale93lfc wrote:
Im curious now, when is a draw and group selection? November or something like that or?

My guess is after they find 3 countries that are desperate enough to pay for organizing it :lol:


I just wonder if Luka is gonna go. He likely will, coz our chances of making PO are very low, so he'll be well rested. Take a month break, watch some NBA PO, then head to Slovenia and prepare for the qualification.


He wont go once he realises that without Dragic Slovenia is left with a bunch of scrubs that not even prime Jordan could lead to anything significant.
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Re: FIBA WORLD CUP 2019 

Post#3035 » by Johnny Firpo » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:02 pm

MagicFrenchie wrote:
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I put €500 on Australia at 1:32 odds before the start of the tournament. Two more wins and I make €16000.

Odds were too good not to try.


Holy crap, that's an amazing bet, I feel bad now knowing about it. :D I would have put at least 200 bucks on this if I'm more up to date on the odds.


I honestly think they aren't going to get through Sapin.


It can happen, still amazing pre-tournament odds.
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Post#3036 » by G R E Y » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:05 pm

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Yeah, in retrospect, Fox would have been better for this tournament than any guard on the roster. He would create a lot of havoc on both ends.

Overall, though, this team is small and full of non-shooters. They have the same weaknesses as a HS or college team. That's not a coincidence. The NBA has made the rules softer so that more advanced development is no longer needed to succeed. Guys can now succeed in the NBA with mid-level skills.

You guys make it seem as if other guys were chosen over Fox. Fox declined to stay on the team. I mean, these discussions of other players so often concern those who decided not to commit and I find it so bizarre.



I thought I read that Fox quit before he was going to be cut. The game he struggled in and didn’t receive a lot of minutes led to the belief he wasn’t going to be involved as much.

Well I thought White would get cut the game before that because -- he struggled and didn't receive a lot of minutes. His penetration was great, outside shot not so much, and I honestly don't remember what kind of defender he was, but with FIBA being far more physical, it may have been a factor. I get letting a guy save face in these sorts of circumstances, but there was an interview with Pop shortly after and he looked genuinely taken aback and a bit upset at the news.

But Fox is one of a couple of grey area cases, right? If we look at all the guys who flat out declined, there's like two rosters' worth of players so there's a bigger issue at play beyond a Fox here or a Melo there. The decliners can suck it; huge credit and respect to the guys who committed.
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Post#3037 » by stoo » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:05 pm

Johnny Firpo wrote:
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I will probably put some money on France, that team is great.


I put €500 on Australia at 1:32 odds before the start of the tournament. Two more wins and I make €16000.

Odds were too good not to try.


Holy crap, that's an amazing bet, I feel bad now knowing about it. :D I would have put at least 200 bucks on this if I'm more up to date on the odds.


They have to play against Spain and France/Argentina first ;)
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Post#3038 » by MrSparkle » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:05 pm

MagicFrenchie wrote:
GREY 1769 wrote:Is Poland hanging with Czechs a surprise? Haven't seen them play before.


half a surprise, czech are supposed to be better, but a lot of fatigue on their shoulders plus questions about motivation....


They hung with Spain until the last few minutes. IMO they’re the biggest surprise of the tourney.
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Post#3039 » by drosereturn » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:06 pm

Sato putting up a legendary performance in Fiba cup. Hopefully, he has his triple double and make history.
That 13-13-9 is so unfortunate.
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Post#3040 » by darmani » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:07 pm

This must be Slaughter's career high in assists :lol:
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