California passes law to allow student-athletes to make money off endorsements

[Clyde Frazier]

The biggest part of the draw of collegiate sports is that isn't supposed to be about the money paying players shatters this.

It will destroy the sport noone will watch the NCAA if it stops being about the school and instead becomes a professional league. Just like noone watches MILB, the CHL/AHL, NFL Europa, or the G league.

You will also have a whole bunch of guys exploiting their college eligibility to try and get paid. The NCAA should just pull out of California entirely.

Hahaha if you think any one watches college sports because these kids don’t get paid. It’s a nice piece of marketing from the NCAA because precisely because they’re against athletes getting any kind of compensation. I hope the NCAA pulls out of California that would go a long way to destroying their credibility which is a good thing since they’re a corrupt organization to begin with.

They watch it because it's amateur sports. If the NCAA becomes a professional league people and viewed separate from the university/college people will tune out.

I hope the NCAA does leave cali if the schools want to set up their own professional league let them - they will fail.

There will be nothing separate about it. Major college football and basketball programs are "amateur" sports in name only. It's a business through and through. People aren't going to stop going to duke and UNC basketball games and alabama and Ohio state football games if the players sign endorsement deals with Nike and Toyota. Don't be silly. All they care about is watching their teams win, and win a lot.

edit - also, for many fans the reason these college sports programs are so popular is because it's the only game in town. it's their equivalent to local pro sports teams. they have the same extreme emotional attachment to those teams that people in major cities do with theirs. If a fan favorite bball player for iowa state signs an endorsement deal with steiner sports for appearances at the local mall, you think that's going to push fans away? no **** way.

[Plossum]

If it’s amateur sports why is the NCAA and Colleges making billions of dollars out of it? Don’t kid yourself about NCAA sports being amateur sports. It’s a professional league that exploits the labour of its players.

[Curmudgeon]

If it’s amateur sports why is the NCAA and Colleges making billions of dollars out of it? Don’t kid yourself about NCAA sports being amateur sports. It’s a professional league that exploits the labour of its players.

Yes, it's a slave system in which the schools and coaches make millions while the players get to take a few useless courses for free.

[Lalouie]

i'm going to lay aside all the money and money related issues, the player inequities that are invariably brought up about the profitability of the ncaa. it's been hashed over ad infinitum.

the problem the ncaa is trying to avoid would be the blatant inequities between the haves and have nots, because it would clearly be obvious that the dukes, the bamas, the ohio states, the texas's, the the michigans, the oklahomas, the floridas, the big city big market schools would have a decided advantage over the smaller non big market schools.

it is already a difficult problem to overcome, especially with the shoes supporting the big name schools. so this is just adding gas to the flames. i must admit however that it is a mighty slick way of side-stepping title IX.

[DoItALL9]

I am all for the student athletics making money in a perfect world where people and organizations don't cheat. So let's say they allow it. Is it capped? As in a student can only do up to 125k in promotional work a season? If it isn't capped, schools like UF with major sponserships because of Gatorade etc just New York Yankees buy up all the big name players. So, instead of recruiting based on how good your campus is, how good your program's history is, how good the coaches are to make you the best possible player, you recruit with how many company logos you can fit on their shirts?

Yeah, sounds like a fun new system. /s

Um, how is that any different from now? Where do you think the money comes from to pay those coaches and build those fancy practice facilities? The only difference would be the kids themselves could get some of the money.

Teams are basically already buying up all the good players... it's just indirect. It's not like NCAA football/basketball have much parity

There is a pretty huge difference. Why do you think leagues have salary caps...

In part, leagues have salary caps to prevent the price for players right from escalating enormously too quickly.

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[LKN]

i'm going to lay aside all the money and money related issues, the player inequities that are invariably brought up about the profitability of the ncaa. it's been hashed over ad infinitum.

the problem the ncaa is trying to avoid would be the blatant inequities between the haves and have nots, because it would clearly be obvious that the dukes, the bamas, the ohio states, the texas's, the the michigans, the oklahomas, the floridas, the big city big market schools would have a decided advantage over the smaller non big market schools.

it is already a difficult problem to overcome, especially with the shoes supporting the big name schools. so this is just adding gas to the flames. i must admit however that it is a mighty slick way of side-stepping title IX.

Eh - that horse left the barn a long, long time ago.

Look at which conferences get the big payouts from bowl games and such

[SOUL]

Anyone against this is a weirdo.

[Sedale Threatt]

^ I guess it shouldn't, but it honestly boggles my mind that anyone could be opposed to this. Tim Tebow almost barfed up a lung today arguing against it. With the money being generated by major college sports -- billions, with a B and an S -- how anyone can still argue that it's an amateur endeavor with a straight face is completely beyond me. About all I can chalk it up to is stupidity, ignorance and an enormous amount of naivety.

[LKN]

Tim Tebow is an idiot. Yes, it will take the "authenticity" and "realness" away from football. None of his arguments even make sense. SAS was way, way too easy on him.

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[Lalouie]

i'm going to lay aside all the money and money related issues, the player inequities that are invariably brought up about the profitability of the ncaa. it's been hashed over ad infinitum.

the problem the ncaa is trying to avoid would be the blatant inequities between the haves and have nots, because it would clearly be obvious that the dukes, the bamas, the ohio states, the texas's, the the michigans, the oklahomas, the floridas, the big city big market schools would have a decided advantage over the smaller non big market schools.

it is already a difficult problem to overcome, especially with the shoes supporting the big name schools. so this is just adding gas to the flames. i must admit however that it is a mighty slick way of side-stepping title IX.

Eh - that horse left the barn a long, long time ago.

Look at which conferences get the big payouts from bowl games and such

well this is about the student athlete and you're just reaffirming what i said. this just fills the pockets of the big schools even MORE and consequently how they can pay athletes.

[clyde21]

Tim Tebow is an idiot. Yes, it will take the "authenticity" and "realness" away from football. None of his arguments even make sense. SAS was way, way too easy on him.

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you know, let's bring back free and child labor...paying people what they're worth takes away from the authenticity of of their work.

[SkyHookFTW]

There will always be people opposed to letting college athletes make money off of their name, as the college education itself is worth anywhere from $25,000-$65,000 per year these days for schools at all levels. Many people believe that there are many academically gifted people who could put that money to better use and actually get an education that will be used instead of letting an athlete get that money.

I'm also amazed at how many poor, uncompensated name athletes manage to drive BMW's around campus. Maybe boosters should just be legal, since that is a major source of income for uncompensated athletes.

[Clyde Frazier]

If it’s amateur sports why is the NCAA and Colleges making billions of dollars out of it? Don’t kid yourself about NCAA sports being amateur sports. It’s a professional league that exploits the labour of its players.

Yes, it's a slave system in which the schools and coaches make millions while the players get to take a few useless courses for free.

And letting players sign endorsement deals and profit off their likeness has no effect on their ability to play collegiate sports.

If you want to scream "the boosters from [insert powerhouse program here] are going to take over" then who cares? It's already happening, at least it would be transparent and legal with taxes paid on said compensation.

Why do people blatantly ignore when the **** ladder and scissors are sponsored to cut the net at the final 4 as if this is ANYTHING but a multi billion dollar business? It's so **** absurd.

[Sedale Threatt]

If it’s amateur sports why is the NCAA and Colleges making billions of dollars out of it? Don’t kid yourself about NCAA sports being amateur sports. It’s a professional league that exploits the labour of its players.

Yes, it's a slave system in which the schools and coaches make millions while the players get to take a few useless courses for free.

And letting players sign endorsement deals and profit off their likeness has no effect on their ability to play collegiate sports.

If you want to scream "the boosters from [insert powerhouse program here] are going to take over" then who cares? It's already happening, at least it would be transparent and legal with taxes paid on said compensation.

Why do people blatantly ignore when the **** ladder and scissors are sponsored to cut the net at the final 4 as if this is ANYTHING but a multi billion dollar business? It's so **** absurd.

I've covered two NCAA tournaments, and you are not allowed to bring any drinks out to press row that are not in sponsored cups. Even the NBA doesn't do that kind of thing. It's a business from the word go, made even more lucrative by the fact that the labor pool is almost entirely cut out of the equation. Room / board / scholarships is the bare minimum, and they're going to fight absolutely everything beyond that because they've got arguably the biggest golden goose in all of sports. College sports is the equivalent of a Nike sweatshop.

[Sedale Threatt]

I'm not on Twitter nearly as much as I used to be, but it's one of the reasons I love Jay Bilas. He goes in on the disingenuous / dumb "can't pay the athletes" arguments absolutely every chance he gets. It's glorious.

Case in point:

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[Pointgod]

Tim Tebow is an idiot. Yes, it will take the "authenticity" and "realness" away from football. None of his arguments even make sense. SAS was way, way too easy on him.

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Teebow is the type of **** that wants to pull the ladder up after he’s had success. I wouldn’t be surprised if the majority of current and former college players are in favor of this and Teebow is in the minority.

[clyde21]

There will always be people opposed to letting college athletes make money off of their name, as the college education itself is worth anywhere from $25,000-$65,000 per year these days for schools at all levels. Many people believe that there are many academically gifted people who could put that money to better use and actually get an education that will be used instead of letting an athlete get that money.

I'm also amazed at how many poor, uncompensated name athletes manage to drive BMW's around campus. Maybe boosters should just be legal, since that is a major source of income for uncompensated athletes.

which is completely and utterly ridiculous in itself, but that's another discussion altogether

[LKN]

NVM - as post below shows apparently this guy was a dirtbag

[spikeslovechild]

http://wvmetronews.com/2016/08/04/coach-stunned-to-find-prized-recruit-justin-crawford-working-at-taco-bell-entering-camp/

Lol you couldn't pick a worse example.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24991943/ex-west-virginia-player-justin-crawford-faces-child-sex-charges-georgia

[LKN]

http://wvmetronews.com/2016/08/04/coach-stunned-to-find-prized-recruit-justin-crawford-working-at-taco-bell-entering-camp/

Lol you couldn't pick a worse example.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24991943/ex-west-virginia-player-justin-crawford-faces-child-sex-charges-georgia

Had no idea - that's terrible and sad.