Kampuchea wrote:
What’s a bang bus?
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Kampuchea wrote:
What’s a bang bus?
god shammgod wrote:Kampuchea wrote:god shammgod wrote:
will they take the bang bus to the arena ?
What’s a bang bus?
Look it up
god shammgod wrote:GONYK wrote:malik959 wrote:Like I said before people are going to complain regardless of what the Knicks do. The plan was to get a top pick and let the rooks play. But people complained because we didn't have an identity. Well how can you establish an identity I your purposely trying to lose? So why does this even come up? The coach is not going to run the perfect offense if we are trying to lose!
The Knick may not have gotten the player they truly wanted, but they put themselves in the position to get the highest chance in getting him, that was the goal. They weren't thinking about an identity. How can we be a top defensive team and get a top 5 pick? Or how can we be a good/great offensive team and still be in the lotto?
Coach came on this team knowing that this was a throw away season, just throw out something and let it fly. To me this will truly be his first year because we're expecting to compete and you picked up vets that aren't ready to lose. They well come in expecting to be bullies and do whatever it takes to win in a weak conference.
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Nets did it while only winning 20 games and getting the #1 pick in the draft
They may have shot a bunch of 3s, but I’m not sure any 20 win team can claim they played defense.
GONYK wrote:god shammgod wrote:GONYK wrote:
Nets did it while only winning 20 games and getting the #1 pick in the draft
They may have shot a bunch of 3s, but I’m not sure any 20 win team can claim they played defense.
The Nets DEF RTG was 23rd that year. Ours was 26th last year. They were a full 3 points better than us with worse defensive players and playing at the fastest pace in the league.
If you look at their minutes distribution, you'll see that their defensive players were fixtures in the rotation.
An effort was made. That's all you can do with a roster like they had that year.
Fiz didn't even do that, and he had more talent at his disposal.
god shammgod wrote:GONYK wrote:god shammgod wrote:They may have shot a bunch of 3s, but I’m not sure any 20 win team can claim they played defense.
The Nets DEF RTG was 23rd that year. Ours was 26th last year. They were a full 3 points better than us with worse defensive players and playing at the fastest pace in the league.
If you look at their minutes distribution, you'll see that their defensive players were fixtures in the rotation.
An effort was made. That's all you can do with a roster like they had that year.
Fiz didn't even do that, and he had more talent at his disposal.
I’m not defending fiz but....worse defensive players ? We started Kanter, Knox, Timmy & Mudiay.
GONYK wrote:god shammgod wrote:GONYK wrote:
The Nets DEF RTG was 23rd that year. Ours was 26th last year. They were a full 3 points better than us with worse defensive players and playing at the fastest pace in the league.
If you look at their minutes distribution, you'll see that their defensive players were fixtures in the rotation.
An effort was made. That's all you can do with a roster like they had that year.
Fiz didn't even do that, and he had more talent at his disposal.
I’m not defending fiz but....worse defensive players ? We started Kanter, Knox, Timmy & Mudiay.
Who we started was Fizdale's decision. We had better defensive players at our disposal that he chose not to make use of.
god shammgod wrote:My argument is not that fiz didn’t suck. He did. It’s that the nets established anything defensively before this past year. Even throwing up endless 3s because you watched Dantoni do it is not exactly genius level coaching. The nets as a well oiled machine is a kind of an overblown narrative. They had a young point guard who went crazy for his next contract more than anything else.
Kampuchea wrote:
What’s a bang bus?
GONYK wrote:god shammgod wrote:My argument is not that fiz didn’t suck. He did. It’s that the nets established anything defensively before this past year. Even throwing up endless 3s because you watched Dantoni do it is not exactly genius level coaching. The nets as a well oiled machine is a kind of an overblown narrative. They had a young point guard who went crazy for his next contract more than anything else.
The Nets were playing fast and shooting 3's well before D-Lo got there. I don't know why you are bringing up defense as if it invalidates anything, but they also got better defensively each year under Atkinson.
I'm not talking about results though. I'm solely focused on identity.
Playing fast and shooting 3's is not a novel identity by any means, but it was one they were able to execute. They knew who they were.
Fizdale missed that very low mark.
The Nets had no draft picks so tanking was out of the question so trading for players was their only option in which they lucked up and got DLo. DLo, like DSJ now was on that year in which he was ready to break out.GONYK wrote:god shammgod wrote:GONYK wrote:
Nets did it while only winning 20 games and getting the #1 pick in the draft
They may have shot a bunch of 3s, but I’m not sure any 20 win team can claim they played defense.
The Nets DEF RTG was 23rd that year. Ours was 26th last year. They were a full 3 points better than us with worse defensive players and playing at the fastest pace in the league.
If you look at their minutes distribution, you'll see that their defensive players were fixtures in the rotation.
An effort was made. That's all you can do with a roster like they had that year.
Fiz didn't even do that, and he had more talent at his disposal.
That really doesn't address the identity issue.malik959 wrote:The Nets had no draft picks so tanking was out of the question so trading for players was their only option in which they lucked up and got DLo. DLo, like DSJ now was on that year in which he was ready to break out.GONYK wrote:god shammgod wrote:They may have shot a bunch of 3s, but I’m not sure any 20 win team can claim they played defense.
The Nets DEF RTG was 23rd that year. Ours was 26th last year. They were a full 3 points better than us with worse defensive players and playing at the fastest pace in the league.
If you look at their minutes distribution, you'll see that their defensive players were fixtures in the rotation.
An effort was made. That's all you can do with a roster like they had that year.
Fiz didn't even do that, and he had more talent at his disposal.
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3toheadmelo wrote:I think there’s hope for Fiz. I was a big fan of the Memphis team he coached that took the Spurs to 6 games. We’ll just have to wait and see.
Capn'O wrote:Kampuchea wrote:god shammgod wrote:
will they take the bang bus to the arena ?
What’s a bang bus?
Good work if you can find it.