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Around the Offseason, Take 2

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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#1321 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:41 am

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I only hope he can shoot like Professor Barnett.
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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#1322 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:44 am

HerSports85 wrote:Fizdale is officially on the clock

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I know the article was already posted but Hahn is highlighting all the key points today. And now, most likely will get Fiz attention


Good. We can only hope. Speaking of which I hope Perry is counting in NY time
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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#1323 » by drekwins » Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:26 am

Thugger HBC wrote:Hahn sounding like a parrot. Last year Hahn couldn't stop praising Fiz "identity" especially for the youth playing hard and being competitive in a lot of the games, even though there was a lot of losing

That IS the identity, dummy.

Now just upgrade the talent, from outside and from within. They didn't get their top goals on the outside end and it's to be determined how the inside works out, but ultimately the team needs top end talent.

Might as well Fire fiz now, this team isn't not likely to win more than 30 games. The talent just isn't there.

There's no Giannis, no Ben Simmons, Mitch aint Joel, there's no Jayson Tatum's or Jaylen Browns on these Knicks.

Let the youngins play. End of story. We are rebuilding. Embrace.


Youth playing hard is not an identity. Being competitive is just a result... also not an identity.

There are different ways to win. By outshooting the other team (GS & Hou). By winning the differentials (TOs & Rebs) + tough defense (Utah & SA). Playing elite defense and then trusting your best player to score/create at a higher percentage offense than the opponent (Por, Mil & Tor). Playing elite defense and fast (OKC).

Bottom line: Every style requires good defense to be played. Now, will Fiz emphasize winning the rebound battle? Will he emphasize winning the TO battle? Does he want to play fast? Does he want the ball to run through any one player every time down the floor? Does he want extensive ball movement? Does he want to emphasize 3 point shots? Pick and roll?

The answers to these questions dictates who gets playing time and how we evaluate the team. We're all confused on who Fizdale is because he contradicted everything he said last year. He played guys who weren't defenders, guys who took consistently bad shots, etc.

Identity is about style. It makes the game easier for everyone. Otherwise, we'll have 5 guys with no coordinated effort improvising play after play. Improvisation is obviously required to an extend. However, you need structure to ensure that everyone is swimming in the same direction and on the same page. Without a style, it's impossible to be consistent.
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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#1324 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:53 am

There should be a rule here about the length of posts. I hardly ever post more that 2 short paragraphs of no more than 5 lines each. One emoji per paragraph.

Since I’m “Grandpa’s Law” around these here parts, that’s the new rule.

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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#1325 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:02 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:Hahn sounding like a parrot. Last year Hahn couldn't stop praising Fiz "identity" especially for the youth playing hard and being competitive in a lot of the games, even though there was a lot of losing

That IS the identity, dummy.

Now just upgrade the talent, from outside and from within. They didn't get their top goals on the outside end and it's to be determined how the inside works out, but ultimately the team needs top end talent.

Might as well Fire fiz now, this team isn't not likely to win more than 30 games. The talent just isn't there.

There's no Giannis, no Ben Simmons, Mitch aint Joel, there's no Jayson Tatum's or Jaylen Browns on these Knicks.

Let the youngins play. End of story. We are rebuilding. Embrace.


I tuned Hahn out a while ago. He'll make an occasional decent point, but he's cashing a checks as an MSG media shill. That's fine. Good for him. I don't have to listen to it.

The moment Wally and Hahn appear on my screen, I hit mute. I actually get a little upset if I accidentally hear even a few seconds of them talking. :D
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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#1326 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:05 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:There should be a rule here about the length of posts. I hardly ever post more that 2 short paragraphs of no more than 5 lines each. One emoji per paragraph.

Since I’m “Grandpa’s Law” around these here parts, that’s the new rule.

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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#1327 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:22 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:There should be a rule here about the length of posts. I hardly ever post more that 2 short paragraphs of no more than 5 lines each. One emoji per paragraph.

Since I’m “Grandpa’s Law” around these here parts, that’s the new rule.

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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#1328 » by Fat Kat » Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:57 pm

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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#1329 » by F N 11 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:53 pm

I know how Fiz want to play. Only difference is this year we have the players to do it.
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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#1330 » by BKlutch » Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:54 pm

I don't know if anybody else saw this, but this is hysterically funny from RJ:

RJ Barrett is asked who he’d like to posterize right now:
“I know who I really wanna say but I’m not gonna. Let’s go with Porzingis.”

From a Bleacher Report AMA.

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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#1331 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:24 pm

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HarthorneWingo wrote:There should be a rule here about the length of posts. I hardly ever post more that 2 short paragraphs of no more than 5 lines each. One emoji per paragraph.

Since I’m “Grandpa’s Law” around these here parts, that’s the new rule.

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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#1332 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:27 pm

BKlutch wrote:I don't know if anybody else saw this, but this is hysterically funny from RJ:

RJ Barrett is asked who he’d like to posterize right now:
“I know who I really wanna say but I’m not gonna. Let’s go with Porzingis.”

From a Bleacher Report AMA.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEn3DAQU4AAtb3c?format=jpg&name=large


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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#1333 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:28 pm

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HarthorneWingo wrote:There should be a rule here about the length of posts. I hardly ever post more that 2 short paragraphs of no more than 5 lines each. One emoji per paragraph.

Since I’m “Grandpa’s Law” around these here parts, that’s the new rule.

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:nod: See everybody? Direct and to the point.

Well said. lol
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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#1334 » by HerSports85 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:36 pm

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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#1335 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:38 pm

F N 11 wrote:I know how Fiz want to play. Only difference is this year we have the players to do it.


Yeah, he wan't to play like the other 29 teams in the league.
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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#1336 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:38 pm

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Oh, is that was Fizdale said? :lol:
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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#1337 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:39 pm

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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#1338 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:42 pm

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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#1339 » by dakomish23 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:20 pm

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Re: Around the Offseason, Take 2 

Post#1340 » by dakomish23 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:23 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:There should be a rule here about the length of posts. I hardly ever post more that 2 short paragraphs of no more than 5 lines each. One emoji per paragraph.

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