Magic Exercising 20-21 Option on Fultz

[rugbyrugger23]

Maybe to trade him?

Covington + Napier

For

Isaac + Fultz

Please leave your terrible Magic trade suggestions for the T&T board.

Lol Sorry I forgot to add 4 unprotected first round picks Going to Orlando to make it acceptable for you.

Similar to the package magic fans thought ibaka would warrant.

[SF_Warriors]

all i know was that Fultz looked great playing against an excellent Celtic squad in Summer League. his shot looked beautiful (even if he didn't knocked them all down), and while not an outright burner, he had a real knack for getting separation and cutting to the hoop. at that point it looked like a very bright future. SOMETHING happened between then and preseason camp. the most conspicuous clue for me was how he would not/could not address what was going on. it seemed like he was incredibly nervous as he refused to answer any question about it. Drew Hanlen initially declared he had the yips, and then the kid got better, only to lose it again, and Drew then said he was still recovering for an injury, and then got fired. based on no other evidence beyond his love of flipping his BMX, i suspect he busted his shoulder, which is a prime cause of TOS.

regardless. Fultz' team mates really liked him when he was with us, and i wish the kid nothing but success.

We have seen career bench guys and guys who were borderline nba players average 20+ in summer league

I mean the fact his jumper looked like a jumper should tell you SOMETHING happened, even if summer league stats are worthless.

Like I said before, we have seen marginal nba talent look like stars in summer league. I have seen anthony randolph draining jumpers in multiple summer league games..

Until fultz is doing it consistently in games, we can't say for sure whether he has a viable nba jumper or not. Getting hot in a single summer league game is not enough to definitively determine that, especially when we have many other instances against actual nba talent spanning two nba seasons where he shot poorly. I will acknowledge that sample size is sporadic and also very small. He will have every chance to show he has recovered from said shoulder/mental ailment, and prove a lot of doubters, including myself wrong.

[dhsilv2]

We have seen career bench guys and guys who were borderline nba players average 20+ in summer league

I mean the fact his jumper looked like a jumper should tell you SOMETHING happened, even if summer league stats are worthless.

Like I said before, we have seen marginal nba talent look like stars in summer league. I have seen anthony randolph draining jumpers in multiple summer league games..

Until fultz is doing it consistently in games, we can't say for sure whether he has a viable nba jumper or not. Getting hot in a single summer league game is not enough to definitively determine that, especially when we have many other instances against actual nba talent spanning two nba seasons where he shot poorly. I will acknowledge that sample size is sporadic and also very small. He will have every chance to show he has recovered from said shoulder/mental ailment, and prove a lot of doubters, including myself wrong.

There's a difference in makes vs. looking like he knows how his arm should move shooting. That weird motion shot he brought to the nba looks nothing like what he did in summer league and in college. This isn't a subtle difference. We're talking a jump shot that in terms of form made him the first overall pick vs. one that might have him out of the league.

[Asif16]

Whats the latest update on him this off-season?

Is he fully healthy? Has he been practicing?

[GeorgeMarcus]

Fultz is not an elite athlete nor has he elite handles and he is definitely not a killer in transition. I have heard these things before and i have no idea how anyone that has seen him play would reach such conclusions. If Fultz were an elite athlete with excellent handles he would be able to play even without a 3point shoot. It is precisely because he is neither of these that he is unplayable in his current state.

Moreover dont compare Embiid with Fultz. Embiid had a real injury and was a much better prospect in college. I am not even sure Fultz has a real injury, he literally stopped playing after he got his option picked up and was moved to the bench. He spent the whole summer last year shooting 3s supposedly without any issues and as soon as he secured one more year of money and was moved to the bench he suddenly was injured again.

I hope he overcomes whatever issues he has but lets not kid ourselves that this is a typical injury. He will be paid for the full 4 years of his rookie contract and to this day he has played back up minutes in 33 games and even in those he hasnt shown much. He is literally being paid based on his perceived potential, because he hasnt shown anything on the NBA court yet.

Not on the Sixers he couldn't. It's impossible to balance 2 guards that can't shoot, especially when our best player is most effective in the post. Fultz is a crafty playmaker with elite athleticism (particularly his deceleration a la James Harden). With any semblance of a jump shot he would have been/could still be All Star material, but he was a piss poor off-ball player given his limitations.

Fultz is not elite athletically, at least compared to the other NBA players. He is not explosive and he can create separation from the defender.

Also he still had his mid range shot when he was playing with the Sixers. If he were all these things the guy i quoted was saying he would have a place in the team. Uf i remember correctly he lost his job to TJ, before he stopped playing, who is neither elite athletically nor does he shoot 3s.

He didn’t have a mid range shot unless it was a quick pull up. That’s why he struggled from the FT line. Something about the forward momentum was able to mitigate his shooting hitch. He could only score on ball which meant he was completely useless off ball.

Totally disagree about the athleticism bit. He was fun to watch because it looked like he was floating up and down the court.

[GeorgeMarcus]

Neurological basis for what? And who diagnosed it?

Just forum search our past conversations lol you're out of your mind if you think I'm going to rehash everything I've said to you on multiple occasions. Maybe it will be easier for you to digest if I type it out in binary.

Name the doctor who diagnosed TOS in Fultz?

The doctor didn’t attach his or her name, which is neither surprising nor uncommon

[michaelm]

I would figure it would be a great source of pride and a badge of professional honor to be the one doctor out of so many that actually got the diagnosis correct. I'd want my name out there so I could help other people that have been misdiagnosed.

But hey what do I know.

Doctor Patient confidentiality? Kinda a big deal...

Yes it is it falls right under the banner of doctor patient anonymity.

That is absolutely part of doctor patient confidentiality, unless the patient deems otherwise. You are absolutely not allowed to say you are treating someone particularly generally to the media, and I would regard it as unprofessional if his doctor had even asked Fultz whether he could put anything out there.

[EAS Law]

Maybe to trade him?

Covington + Napier

For

Isaac + Fultz

Please leave your terrible Magic trade suggestions for the T&T board.

Lol Sorry I forgot to add 4 unprotected first round picks Going to Orlando to make it acceptable for you.

Similar to the package magic fans thought ibaka would warrant.

I mean... nobody suggested anything ridiculous—just that your idea is trash—because it is. Where is the thought process that we need to attach Isaac now along with a player that still has plenty of upside to take on a guy that is a decent starter and trash that we already cut once? Because we accepted an option on someone? Lmao

[TheRealKaboom]

Every other NBA player's injury happens with a how, a where, and a when.

All except Markelle Fultz. Not a single one of those questions can be answered by anyone on this entire planet. Not how, not where, not when.

Instead of answers to those questions, we have people on RealGM lying to themselves about a BMX accident and shoulder injury and TOS and other things that they truly know, deep down, never happened. The reason for that kind of self-delusion is the real mystery in this situation.

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[Sixerscan]

Just forum search our past conversations lol you're out of your mind if you think I'm going to rehash everything I've said to you on multiple occasions. Maybe it will be easier for you to digest if I type it out in binary.

Name the doctor who diagnosed TOS in Fultz?

The doctor didn’t attach his or her name, which is neither surprising nor uncommon

It's pretty uncommon. And the official release from the team was one of the more bizarre things I've seen

Markelle Fultz has recently completed a thorough series of consultations with specialists across several disciplines. Thoracic outlet syndrome, which involves compression or irritation in the thoracic outlet (area between lower neck and upper chest), was identified.

Physical therapy was recommended for Fultz before returning to play.

Fultz will begin this physical therapy immediately, is out indefinitely, and further updates will be provided as appropriate.

[Sixerscan]

Doctor Patient confidentiality? Kinda a big deal...

Yes it is it falls right under the banner of doctor patient anonymity.

That is absolutely part of doctor patient confidentiality,unless the patient deems otherwise. You are absolutely not allowed to say you are treating someone particularly generally to the media, and I would regard it as unprofessional if his doctor had even asked Fultz whether he could put anything out there.

Are you guys living in some sort of bizarro world where we don't get medical information about players all the time? There are daily injury reports, you have sideline reporters on television giving live updates about injuries, there are dozens of examples.

There's a clause in every player's contract that allows teams to disclose basic medical information. Which is why you regularly see in team press releases that player X is going to see doctor Y or doctor Z is treating player A for malady B.

[GeorgeMarcus]

Name the doctor who diagnosed TOS in Fultz?

The doctor didn’t attach his or her name, which is neither surprising nor uncommon

It's pretty uncommon. And the official release from the team was one of the more bizarre things I've seen

Markelle Fultz has recently completed a thorough series of consultations with specialists across several disciplines. Thoracic outlet syndrome, which involves compression or irritation in the thoracic outlet (area between lower neck and upper chest), was identified.

Physical therapy was recommended for Fultz before returning to play.

Fultz will begin this physical therapy immediately, is out indefinitely, and further updates will be provided as appropriate.

It seems bizarre because it's so vague but that's just the nature of the condition. What else could they say? There's no black and white recovery process like there would be with a bone fracture or muscle tear. If he was diagnosed with TOS from the beginning, people wouldn't be so skeptical. Unfortunately it's rare and difficult to detect so getting to that point takes time, same as my cluster headache diagnosis. Maybe I'm more sympathetic because of my own experiences but it's crazy to me how badly people (not you as far as I'm aware) want to attribute his struggles to mental weakness. There are more documented cases of NBA players having TOS (2) than having the yips (0).

[Sixerscan]

The doctor didn’t attach his or her name, which is neither surprising nor uncommon

It's pretty uncommon. And the official release from the team was one of the more bizarre things I've seen

Markelle Fultz has recently completed a thorough series of consultations with specialists across several disciplines. Thoracic outlet syndrome, which involves compression or irritation in the thoracic outlet (area between lower neck and upper chest), was identified.

Physical therapy was recommended for Fultz before returning to play.

Fultz will begin this physical therapy immediately, is out indefinitely, and further updates will be provided as appropriate.

It seems bizarre because it's so vague but that's just the nature of the condition. What else could they say? There's no black and white recovery process like there would be with a bone fracture or muscle tear. If he was diagnosed with TOS from the beginning, people wouldn't be so skeptical. Unfortunately it's rare and difficult to detect so getting to that point takes time, same as my cluster headache diagnosis. Maybe I'm more sympathetic because of my own experiences but it's crazy to me how badly people (not you as far as I'm aware) want to attribute his struggles to mental weakness. There are more documented cases of NBA players having TOS (2) than having the yips (0).

"Dr. X diagnosed Markelle Fultz with thoratic outlet syndrome." Or even "Markelle Fultz was diagnosed with TOS."

The way his agent said that he was diagnosed with it:

Read on Twitter

I think it's a pretty reasonable theory that no doctor diagnosed him with it and in actuality it was just thrown out as a possibility by a doctor/someone ("It could be TOS") and his agent ran with it.

I have no idea what his issue is. But I don't really see a reason to think TOS is the correct diagnosis anymore than scapular muscle imbalance was correct 2 years ago. People keep saying TOS is hard to diagnose, doesn't that also mean false positive diagnoses are probably extremely common?

By all accounts, he's a nice kid and I've never seen anything to think the people around him are bad people or anything. But he's got a bad combination of some clear serious issues with apparently incompetent (if good natured) people around him. Honestly I think the real first step is changing the latter before you see real sustained progress on the former.

[dhsilv2]

Name the doctor who diagnosed TOS in Fultz?

The doctor didn’t attach his or her name, which is neither surprising nor uncommon

It's pretty uncommon. And the official release from the team was one of the more bizarre things I've seen

Markelle Fultz has recently completed a thorough series of consultations with specialists across several disciplines. Thoracic outlet syndrome, which involves compression or irritation in the thoracic outlet (area between lower neck and upper chest), was identified.

Physical therapy was recommended for Fultz before returning to play.

Fultz will begin this physical therapy immediately, is out indefinitely, and further updates will be provided as appropriate.

I've never seen the diagnosis doctor listed. Sometimes we do see the surgeons listed.

[dhsilv2]

It's pretty uncommon. And the official release from the team was one of the more bizarre things I've seen

It seems bizarre because it's so vague but that's just the nature of the condition. What else could they say? There's no black and white recovery process like there would be with a bone fracture or muscle tear. If he was diagnosed with TOS from the beginning, people wouldn't be so skeptical. Unfortunately it's rare and difficult to detect so getting to that point takes time, same as my cluster headache diagnosis. Maybe I'm more sympathetic because of my own experiences but it's crazy to me how badly people (not you as far as I'm aware) want to attribute his struggles to mental weakness. There are more documented cases of NBA players having TOS (2) than having the yips (0).

"Dr. X diagnosed Markelle Fultz with thoratic outlet syndrome." Or even "Markelle Fultz was diagnosed with TOS."

The way his agent said that he was diagnosed with it:

Read on Twitter

I think it's a pretty reasonable theory that no doctor diagnosed him with it and in actuality it was just thrown out as a possibility by a doctor/someone ("It could be TOS") and his agent ran with it.

I have no idea what his issue is. But I don't really see a reason to think TOS is the correct diagnosis anymore than scapular muscle imbalance was correct 2 years ago. People keep saying TOS is hard to diagnose, doesn't that also mean false positive diagnoses are probably extremely common?

By all accounts, he's a nice kid and I've never seen anything to think the people around him are bad people or anything. But he's got a bad combination of some clear serious issues with apparently incompetent (if good natured) people around him. Honestly I think the real first step is changing the latter before you see real sustained progress on the former.

Theory is a pretty awful word choice imo.

I don't think it's insane to be skeptical but frankly it makes no sense that a doctor didn't come up with it, even if it's wrong. TOS is both broad and obscure and there's no sure way to fix it from what I've seen. Given the numbers of people I've own over the years who've had medical issues that took years to diagnose and who dealt with countless bad ones...this doesn't seem all that implausible.

His jumper looks to me like something I'd see if someone randomly has shooting pains when he shoots but it doesn't happy consistently enough where he can just brace for it. Now I'm no doctor, no expert, and that's completely based on myself having had some pain issues where randomly I'd have shooting pain in my back where I'd fall straight to the floor and how when standing up I never knew if I'd have them again or if I'd be fine.

[LloydFree]

Every other NBA player's injury happens with a how, a where, and a when.

All except Markelle Fultz. Not a single one of those questions can be answered by anyone on this entire planet. Not how, not where, not when.

Instead of answers to those questions, we have people on RealGM lying to themselves about a BMX accident and shoulder injury and TOS and other things that they truly know, deep down, never happened. The reason for that kind of self-delusion is the real mystery in this situation.

That's the thing that I find the most perplexing. The effort that some people put into trying make excuses for Fultz's struggles, instead of just admitting he's garbage, and moving on. Especially ridiculous from 76ers fans who no longer have a reason to try to fool themselves.

[Sixerscan]

It seems bizarre because it's so vague but that's just the nature of the condition. What else could they say? There's no black and white recovery process like there would be with a bone fracture or muscle tear. If he was diagnosed with TOS from the beginning, people wouldn't be so skeptical. Unfortunately it's rare and difficult to detect so getting to that point takes time, same as my cluster headache diagnosis. Maybe I'm more sympathetic because of my own experiences but it's crazy to me how badly people (not you as far as I'm aware) want to attribute his struggles to mental weakness. There are more documented cases of NBA players having TOS (2) than having the yips (0).

"Dr. X diagnosed Markelle Fultz with thoratic outlet syndrome." Or even "Markelle Fultz was diagnosed with TOS."

The way his agent said that he was diagnosed with it:

Read on Twitter

I think it's a pretty reasonable theory that no doctor diagnosed him with it and in actuality it was just thrown out as a possibility by a doctor/someone ("It could be TOS") and his agent ran with it.

I have no idea what his issue is. But I don't really see a reason to think TOS is the correct diagnosis anymore than scapular muscle imbalance was correct 2 years ago. People keep saying TOS is hard to diagnose, doesn't that also mean false positive diagnoses are probably extremely common?

By all accounts, he's a nice kid and I've never seen anything to think the people around him are bad people or anything. But he's got a bad combination of some clear serious issues with apparently incompetent (if good natured) people around him. Honestly I think the real first step is changing the latter before you see real sustained progress on the former.

Theory is a pretty awful word choice imo.

I don't think it's insane to be skeptical but frankly it makes no sense that a doctor didn't come up with it, even if it's wrong. TOS is both broad and obscure and there's no sure way to fix it from what I've seen. Given the numbers of people I've own over the years who've had medical issues that took years to diagnose and who dealt with countless bad ones...this doesn't seem all that implausible.

His jumper looks to me like something I'd see if someone randomly has shooting pains when he shoots but it doesn't happy consistently enough where he can just brace for it. Now I'm no doctor, no expert, and that's completely based on myself having had some pain issues where randomly I'd have shooting pain in my back where I'd fall straight to the floor and how when standing up I never knew if I'd have them again or if I'd be fine.

What's wrong with me saying it's my theory? None of us know exactly what's going on, in no small part because he's kept things so vague. This is all just our theories. Anyway, what word would you like me to use when there's no actual evidence besides his agent (who has screwed up medical terms before) that he was diagnosed? The team went out of their way to not say he was diagnosed. Should I say TOS "was identified" the way the team did?

What does "come up with it" mean? He went and saw like 10 doctors, I imagine at least one of them probably said "I can't say what it is with certainty, but here are some possibilities" and among others he mentioned TOS, Brothers decided TOS sounded good and he ran with it.

Again, the fact that it's hard to diagnose doesn't mean that when someone says it's a possibility that that's what it is. In fact it's the exact opposite. For all we know he could have a completely different diagnosis in 6 months.

[OzThunder]

But Embiid looked absolutely amazing in those few games he played and had injuries that were much more cut and die/verifiable. I thought that 3rd or 4th opinion on what was wrong w/ Fultz said he was going to be able to play after the ASB last season? What happened to that?

Embiid didn't play a single game his first 2 years. We've actually seen fultz on an nba court. I don't recall anyone saying Embiid was going to miss 2 seasons when he was drafted, it was seen as a 1 year injury. Mean while fans were calling him a bust, saying he'd never stay healthy, blah blah blah.

Fultz has had issues and I guess fans are upset he doesn't spam us on twitter with updates on his issue?

So far we've seen a guy with elite athletic ability. He's got huge defensive upside, looks like he can be an actual impact defensive point guard. Excellent handles, very good passer, and already a killer in transition. Youngest guy to ever have a triple double to add to that. No, he's not been good overall but it isn't like we haven't seen a hell of a lot of potential in those moments he'd been on the floor.

I don't see the guy as a future superstar at this point but if he can find that jumper he had...he's going to be a good nba player for years to come. Why would anyone not be rooting for him to get there? Again...because he doesn't spam us with twitter posts about his rehab progress? Because we're annoyed doctors couldn't figure out his issue right away? Because *gasp* there might be something mental and requires help?

I mean do you think this guy worked his butt off for all those years to make the NBA and now just wants to collect a pay check and never compete at the NBA level? Why?

Fultz is not an elite athlete nor has he elite handles and he is definitely not a killer in transition. I have heard these things before and i have no idea how anyone that has seen him play would reach such conclusions. If Fultz were an elite athlete with excellent handles he would be able to play even without a 3point shoot. It is precisely because he is neither of these that he is unplayable in his current state.

Moreover dont compare Embiid with Fultz. Embiid had a real injury and was a much better prospect in college. I am not even sure Fultz has a real injury, he literally stopped playing after he got his option picked up and was moved to the bench. He spent the whole summer last year shooting 3s supposedly without any issues and as soon as he secured one more year of money and was moved to the bench he suddenly was injured again.

I hope he overcomes whatever issues he has but lets not kid ourselves that this is a typical injury. He will be paid for the full 4 years of his rookie contract and to this day he has played back up minutes in 33 games and even in those he hasnt shown much. He is literally being paid based on his perceived potential, because he hasnt shown anything on the NBA court yet.

I saw him play last year and I would say he's a pretty elite athlete and is certainly a killer in transition. Without his jumpshot and whilst doing all the weird free throw stuff, he actually was playing pretty well. Nobody actually cares to notice that or give it credit. 8.2ppg on 42% shooting 3.7 rebounds and 3.1 assists. Put someone like that on the Raptors or Knicks for a season and we'd be hearing about the next big thing, not about a kid who fooled his way into the league. And that's whilst in the midst of these huge problems. Hate him all you want but he has huge potential.

[dhsilv2]

"Dr. X diagnosed Markelle Fultz with thoratic outlet syndrome." Or even "Markelle Fultz was diagnosed with TOS."

The way his agent said that he was diagnosed with it:

Read on Twitter

I think it's a pretty reasonable theory that no doctor diagnosed him with it and in actuality it was just thrown out as a possibility by a doctor/someone ("It could be TOS") and his agent ran with it.

I have no idea what his issue is. But I don't really see a reason to think TOS is the correct diagnosis anymore than scapular muscle imbalance was correct 2 years ago. People keep saying TOS is hard to diagnose, doesn't that also mean false positive diagnoses are probably extremely common?

By all accounts, he's a nice kid and I've never seen anything to think the people around him are bad people or anything. But he's got a bad combination of some clear serious issues with apparently incompetent (if good natured) people around him. Honestly I think the real first step is changing the latter before you see real sustained progress on the former.

Theory is a pretty awful word choice imo.

I don't think it's insane to be skeptical but frankly it makes no sense that a doctor didn't come up with it, even if it's wrong. TOS is both broad and obscure and there's no sure way to fix it from what I've seen. Given the numbers of people I've own over the years who've had medical issues that took years to diagnose and who dealt with countless bad ones...this doesn't seem all that implausible.

His jumper looks to me like something I'd see if someone randomly has shooting pains when he shoots but it doesn't happy consistently enough where he can just brace for it. Now I'm no doctor, no expert, and that's completely based on myself having had some pain issues where randomly I'd have shooting pain in my back where I'd fall straight to the floor and how when standing up I never knew if I'd have them again or if I'd be fine.

What's wrong with me saying it's my theory? None of us know exactly what's going on, in no small part because he's kept things so vague. This is all just our theories. Anyway, what word would you like me to use when there's no actual evidence besides his agent (who has screwed up medical terms before) that he was diagnosed? The team went out of their way to not say he was diagnosed. Should I say TOS "was identified" the way the team did?

What does "come up with it" mean? He went and saw like 10 doctors, I imagine at least one of them probably said "I can't say what it is with certainty, but here are some possibilities" and among others he mentioned TOS, Brothers decided TOS sounded good and he ran with it.

Again, the fact that it's hard to diagnose doesn't mean that when someone says it's a possibility that that's what it is. In fact it's the exact opposite. For all we know he could have a completely different diagnosis in 6 months.

Theory should be used when you'd go just short of betting your life on it being true. If you haven't tested it, built it on another tested theory, etc..you should refrain from bastardizing a scientific term that has insanely high thresholds to use. Perhaps just a pet peeve of mine but given we're discussing an actual medical condition and it falls into the realm of science, perhaps just use the more accurate term hypothesis? Would really bother me if it was used in a much more conversational type topic (I have a theory that the magic didn't game plan for player xyz due to leaving him open in the corner where he shoots at an above league average rate).

It isn't insane to think a doctor "narrowed it down" and they went with one they liked I suppose. It's also just as likely he got different diagnosis if not more likely and yeah he took the one that made the most sense. The most likely scenario is the there were multiple doctors who agreed to it or agreed it was a reasonable conclusion. While Fultz's camp seems about as opaque as any player's camp ever, I question how far the 76ers and now magic would be willing to go if they weren't allowed to speak to the doctors and verify some of this. Just because you get an outside doctor doesn't mean you don't have your doctors talk to their doctors. I can't see some of these coaches and others people in these organizations not leaking something if this weren't at least pretty darn reasonable...hell everything leaks in the nba. If there was something seriously screwy wouldn't a leak seem pretty likely?

[Sixerscan]

Theory is a pretty awful word choice imo.

I don't think it's insane to be skeptical but frankly it makes no sense that a doctor didn't come up with it, even if it's wrong. TOS is both broad and obscure and there's no sure way to fix it from what I've seen. Given the numbers of people I've own over the years who've had medical issues that took years to diagnose and who dealt with countless bad ones...this doesn't seem all that implausible.

His jumper looks to me like something I'd see if someone randomly has shooting pains when he shoots but it doesn't happy consistently enough where he can just brace for it. Now I'm no doctor, no expert, and that's completely based on myself having had some pain issues where randomly I'd have shooting pain in my back where I'd fall straight to the floor and how when standing up I never knew if I'd have them again or if I'd be fine.

What's wrong with me saying it's my theory? None of us know exactly what's going on, in no small part because he's kept things so vague. This is all just our theories. Anyway, what word would you like me to use when there's no actual evidence besides his agent (who has screwed up medical terms before) that he was diagnosed? The team went out of their way to not say he was diagnosed. Should I say TOS "was identified" the way the team did?

What does "come up with it" mean? He went and saw like 10 doctors, I imagine at least one of them probably said "I can't say what it is with certainty, but here are some possibilities" and among others he mentioned TOS, Brothers decided TOS sounded good and he ran with it.

Again, the fact that it's hard to diagnose doesn't mean that when someone says it's a possibility that that's what it is. In fact it's the exact opposite. For all we know he could have a completely different diagnosis in 6 months.

Theory should be used when you'd go just short of betting your life on it being true. If you haven't tested it, built it on another tested theory, etc..you should refrain from bastardizing a scientific term that has insanely high thresholds to use. Perhaps just a pet peeve of mine but given we're discussing an actual medical condition and it falls into the realm of science, perhaps just use the more accurate term hypothesis? Would really bother me if it was used in a much more conversational type topic (I have a theory that the magic didn't game plan for player xyz due to leaving him open in the corner where he shoots at an above league average rate).

It isn't insane to think a doctor "narrowed it down" and they went with one they liked I suppose. It's also just as likely he got different diagnosis if not more likely and yeah he took the one that made the most sense. The most likely scenario is the there were multiple doctors who agreed to it or agreed it was a reasonable conclusion. While Fultz's camp seems about as opaque as any player's camp ever, I question how far the 76ers and now magic would be willing to go if they weren't allowed to speak to the doctors and verify some of this. Just because you get an outside doctor doesn't mean you don't have your doctors talk to their doctors. I can't see some of these coaches and others people in these organizations not leaking something if this weren't at least pretty darn reasonable...hell everything leaks in the nba. If there was something seriously screwy wouldn't a leak seem pretty likely?

Well obviously I am not a scientist and I didn't mean it in that way. Fine with saying hypothesis instead.

Leak of what? The team he plays for didn't say he was diagnosed with anything. They said it "was identified" or whatever and then basically wiped their hands with the situation. I don't understand what a leak would entail.

It's such a weird situation that it's difficult to even discuss.